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      08-19-2023, 01:25 PM   #1
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It's now broken in...

...or just broken. Hit a glancing blow to a curb in the blinding sun today at 25 mph. In addition to messing up two wheels, I don't think the steering tie rod is supposed to look like this?
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      08-19-2023, 01:30 PM   #2
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Ouch, that sucks. If its bent like that, and you plan to use the rims, I would check the rim closely with the tire off for cracks.
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      08-19-2023, 01:30 PM   #3
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Hit a glancing blow to a curb in the blinding sun today at 25 mph. In addition to messing up two wheels, I don't think the steering tie rod is supposed to look like this?
Oh no!!!!

So sorry!

Having suffered the total loss of my M4CX just a month ago I feel your pain.
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...or just broken. Hit a glancing blow to a curb in the blinding sun today at 25 mph. In addition to messing up two wheels, I don't think the steering tie rod is supposed to look like this?
Huge bummer man…I hope you’re okay?. My wife hit a massive pot hole what was part of state construction and it was unmarked and her wheel looked very similar to that and it needed to be replaced along with the tire. Your tire has a large cut in the sidewall and will also probably need replacing. Safety 1st. Good luck with your repairs and be sure to get an inspection and alignment too.
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...or just broken. Hit a glancing blow to a curb in the blinding sun today at 25 mph. In addition to messing up two wheels, I don't think the steering tie rod is supposed to look like this?
That sucks with a capital S
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      08-19-2023, 02:13 PM   #6
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OK very very sorry to see this. Fortunately at a low speed. I hope the repair is direct and swift.
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      08-19-2023, 03:42 PM   #7
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As usual, let’s look on the bright side.
Sounds like that got him into this situation.

Bummer, you'll have 'er fixed up fast.
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      08-19-2023, 03:45 PM   #8
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Sounds like that got him into this situation.

Bummer, you'll have 'er fixed up fast.
I see what you did there lol
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Clever! I didn’t see that coming… (queue follow up)
Hahaha and I actually just realized that I added to the pun layering. Just wish I had better comical foresight. 😎
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One upside is that it shows that the wheels are probably relatively strong, if the tie rod buckled first.

Do the old timers remember that thread where a dealer employee blew the G87 OEM wheels into pieces?

Man, if 25 MPH into a curb just scuffs the wheel, what was that guy doing?
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Oh no! I hope you get it sorted soon!
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Very unfortunate, hopefully the tie rod took all the lateral impact and you are back on the road quickly. At least they are available as a separate part: https://parts.bmwnorthwest.com/p/Bmw...107885130.html
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Your tire has a large cut in the sidewall and will also probably need replacing.
The tire cut appears to be just in the rim protection bead, but I will get it checked.
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Very unfortunate, hopefully the tie rod took all the lateral impact and you are back on the road quickly. At least they are available as a separate part: https://parts.bmwnorthwest.com/p/Bmw...107885130.html
Thanks - that's what I'm hoping. Appears the part has a natural failure point to protect the steering rack; smart design.
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Time to bring the compound and some pads… it’ll buff right out.

Joke aside, this sucks man! I feel your pain!

As usual, let’s look on the bright side. Nothing major, the tie rods bending is a good sign as they took the hit and absorbed it, saving your rack. Replacing those is trivial. As is replacing wheels.

You’re back on the road in a couple of days…

Sorry this happened man.
Tie rod is pretty easy. Should have got the tire & wheel insurance that I never buy! I may have moved my new wheel purchase up a few months (Honey, those BMW wheels are expensive, it'll be cheaper...). I'm pretty sure the wheels are structurally sound; the rear is probably repairable.
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One upside is that it shows that the wheels are probably relatively strong, if the tie rod buckled first.

Do the old timers remember that thread where a dealer employee blew the G87 OEM wheels into pieces?

Man, if 25 MPH into a curb just scuffs the wheel, what was that guy doing?
Mine was a glancing blow where the curb stuck out from the others some. It did launch the right corner up in the air though.
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Tie rod is pretty easy. Should have got the tire & wheel insurance that I never buy! I may have moved my new wheel purchase up a few months (Honey, those BMW wheels are expensive, it'll be cheaper...). I'm pretty sure the wheels are structurally sound; the rear is probably repairable.
Unfortunately with the machined finish, it may cost almost as much as a new wheel to get an equivalent finish re-machined, as it will require stripping, welding, re-paint, remachining and powdercoat to get back to the original finish. No easy fill and repaint that the non-machined finishes can be fixed with.
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Tie rod is pretty easy. Should have got the tire & wheel insurance that I never buy! I may have moved my new wheel purchase up a few months (Honey, those BMW wheels are expensive, it'll be cheaper...). I'm pretty sure the wheels are structurally sound; the rear is probably repairable.

Edit your post..."Honey, these rims cannot be repaired, the rims are expensive and on backorder so it makes most sense to get these other rims..."

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Definitely very bent. We had a supra on track go off and end up with the same looking tie-rod. You'll notice one wheel is turned while the other is straight.
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Definitely very bent. We had a supra on track go off and end up with the same looking tie-rod. You'll notice one wheel is turned while the other is straight.
I was able to drive it a couple miles home but it felt very weird. May drive it to the dealer.
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...or just broken. Hit a glancing blow to a curb in the blinding sun today at 25 mph. In addition to messing up two wheels, I don't think the steering tie rod is supposed to look like this?
That's unfortunate.

Years ago did something similar when at night in the fog pulled into an unfamiliar hotel parking lot and hit a curb. Ruined both right tires and the right front wheel. And knocked the alignment way out.

Replaced the wheel -- with a new one -- and both tires. For the alignment took the car to a highly regarded alignment shop and the tech found the impact had shifted the front cross member. He loosened the cross member bolts and moved it back into position then tightened the bolts. He then used the alignment adjustment to bring the alignment into spec. It didn't require any real amount of adjustment to make the alignment right.

You can take the car to a dealer. I'd just replace the wheels with new ones. Get the tie rod replaced. And ask tech to check for signs of any other bent hardware.

(Oh, with some cars in the event of something like you experienced believe it or not the steering rack should be replaced. Tech will know.)

Of course an alignment after is a must.

But when it comes to alignment you want to be sure the tech will tell you if he finds it requires too much adjustment to bring the alignment into spec. If it does there is something else bent. Another piece of hardware or worse (but possible) one or more hard points to which the hardware bolts too.

For this the car needs to be taken to a highly regarded body shop and the car placed on a special alignment "rack" (one such is a Celette Bench) which on this hard point locations can be checked and confirmed to be good or not. If not then these can be made good while the car in on the rack.

My Porsche Turbo went through this after a mule deer impact.
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SPL lower arms, new set of wheels, trash alignment.

As long as nothing else is bent or broken this incident just fast-tracked your mods!

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