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Specs on this car?
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Sure it has a lot of upgrades , but my point isnt that . Its to say how capable this platform is if you want it to be ! The car has 680hp and 900nm but the laptime was not a slicks , but with road tires - direzza. The weight is 1350kg. Again i focus on the actual potential of the chassis here.
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Well with coilovers, semislicks, power upgrade, brakeupgrade, weightloss, aeroupgrades etc. you can probably take almost any chassis and make something out of it if „you want to“. Not a lot left over from the original car…
And direzzas are semislicks and not considered as normal roadtires like UHPs are. I had them on my car as well and the difference to a UHP was huge. |
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Indeed. I have been following them for quite some time now , and i also asked them.
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Come on man. Support your fellow Canucks! I watched the video but you made the right decision by not clicking. I usually support these guys but they lost me on this one. Not sure if they were purposely trying to trigger BMW fans or G87 owners but it was a weird comparison where they spent way too much time trying to discredit one car to justify preferring another especially when the one they discredited was the better performer. I can understand why a lot of people would consider neither of these cars a looker but they even piled on the M2 as ugly while liking the RS3. A car that doesn't even have a proper finished front end, the generic side profile of a regular A3, and tires staggered the wrong direction. Sorry Throttle House boys but this video was just a miss.
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It's no longer Haldex - it's a true torque vectoring rear diff. But, you are right in that it can only send UP TO 50% of the torque to the rear, but of that 50%, 100% can be sent to either rear wheel. It's better than before but still fundamentally an understeering chassis.
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As I said in the previous TH video, TH can have opinions I disagree with. They like what they like, that's fine! I object to none of that. But when they misrepresent core facts like weight, or invent misleading tests (4THGC), then they have crossed a line. They need to do better! (Assuming they want to be taken seriously.) |
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I'm psyched to get my M2. I just hope it doesn't arrive in the middle of winter P.S. And to think the G87 can easily take in a RaceChip to bump it to the power of the G80 comp or CS tune for $600 is insane.
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RWD setups may not put as fast an initial lap time on a short track, but it will be more consistent later in a session and you will get a lot more front tire life on track. Of all the AWD cars I have driven on track only the 911s seem to not overtax the front tires when pushed.
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IMO the M2 looks pretty good, but I'm looking forward to seeing how the Comp and CS will be differentiated from the standard M2. ...and the Audi front end is actually OK in my eyes. Better than most Audis. But the rear end, and the profile? No thanks. It suffers from the same looks issue as any A3, S3, etc.: it's a stubby sedan. Sedans that small shouldn't have 4 doors. Hatch version has me somewhat satisfied with the looks, but it's just not my kind of car. Not my kind of AWD drivetrain. I don't like to support anyone just because they're Canadian, but I'm glad they're somewhat easier to watch than the straight pipes. This is coming from a guy who only likes watching the UK and German reviewers that many people consider to be boring. Cheers
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You watch the Straight Pipes to kill time or if they are reviewing a vehicle of particular interest but they are as pure fluff like Raiti's Rides. I'm not into shitting on anyone that's trying to make a career out of reviewing automobiles but you need to be careful about hanging on to any opinions especially from guys using cliche corner as a benchmark handling test. I can at least respect that Thomas and James can drive cars at a high level enough to respect their opinions.
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No I am not saying it doesnt matter. But also stripped mustang will be able to achieve sub 7 BTG easily with that many upgrades… even a 2013 Shelby GT350 did a full lap in around 7:32
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Its not as easy as you think to achieve a laptime under 7 ! The best time of any mustang in Nurburgring is 7:15 i think and thats with slicks not road tires. So yes , my point is to point out that BMW knows how to make great chassis. A 60k car capable of doing such laptimes is something. Its something when you compete GT3s and supercars in a small coupe. Just wanted to point out that BMW knows , after all their whole focus is on DTM and thats important.
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I think it depends if we are talking full lap or BTG, which is a good difference of a about 30sec I believe. I agree, sub 7 on a full lap is a strong performance.
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I stand corrected, I misremembered the EU weight of the RS3. TY for pointing that out!
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Why I always find it funny whenever we get threads surrounding G87 and a said car? Is it because of the reviews? Is it because of people giving it bad rep and making the F87 going up in the value? Please, quote me and tell me why. I find it so funny.
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