[JustinHEMI]

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As you've seen from my posts, I've been running my car hard the last 4K miles. I made a thread about my initial impressions at 1200 miles, so I thought I would toss up my gripes as well.

These are really nit picky, and, probably nothing new. A lot of us share the same gripes.


1) I cannot believe I can't connect the "sport" display to the M buttons. BIG FUCKIN MISS BMW. I hope you're watching/reading, and can push and over the air update to fix this mistake.

2) Apparently you cannot disable certain driver assistance functions without setting up a profile both in the car and the app. I haven't done the app yet but another member reports this works. Case in point, I don't need my car to remind me to take a brake, yet I cannot permanently disable this alert without setting up these profiles.

3) There is an overall ID8 lag. Nothing drastic, again, this is nit picky. However, for example, when I'm listening to my preset stations, if I press the scroll wheel to bring up the list to change stations, it takes a two count to come up. Again, nit picky. Definitely first world problem. This one or two count lag is experienced by me throughout the system, including when speaking commands to the car.

4) Android Auto randomly disconnects and reconnects. This has happened only a handful of times, and I'm not sure who is the blame..., ID8 or AA, but about 5-6 times now, it just disconnects itself. Fortunately, it reconnects.

5) I still don't know what that stupid exhaust button does, and I see we're still debating it on the forum. It should be simply exhaust valves open, or exhaust valves close. Come on BMW.

6) Why am I limited to two gauge displays? Why aren't there multiple factory gauge set ups, or, better yet, why can't I customize my own?

7) The sport seats aren't that comfortable. I finally did find a reasonably comfortable position (doesn't hurt lower back or neck) following the BMW driver school advice, but I have to stop every hour or two to stretch. That's just me though, of course. The seats aren't all that comfortable for a long drive. Short sprints, and up to an hour or two, yes, they're great. That said, I'm not sure any car is that comfortable after sitting for a couple hours. Again, nit picky.

8) I have discovered that regardless of how well you wash/dry the car, black streaks will emanate from the rocker panel body panels. Probably due to brake dust getting in there and then running out after a wash.

9) Another member posted a discernable difference between "comfort" and "sport" brakes, but I can't tell the difference. I just leave it in comfort.

10) The owners manual shows a left knee cubby, but my car doesn't have a left knee cubby. WTF!?




11) I can't NOT rub my leg on the rocker panel body kit when getting in. Thank goodness it's PPF'ed.



That's it, I think. I reserve the right to bitch as I put miles on her.


A bonus PLUS: I love the fact that they included a high powered USB-C port in the center console. Charges my phone fast.




What are your grips?


PS: Note, none of my gripes are about the performance. I am tickled pink with the performance.

[M2siast]

My gripes:

Your #1!!! What the heck… why not!? Right?
- having to wait 2 seconds to engage M1/M2 presets if they touch traction control.
- having to set M1/M2 every time (it always resets and never remembers).

I agree with your #6. A shame we can’t get circular dials. I can’t get used to the rev counter or speedometer. The only thing I pay attention to is the digital speedo. The other bars are useless.

I agree with your #10! I don’t have it either.
#11 my leg only rubs the rocker panel when I leave from the backseat. Carrying passengers will be a bitch.


I don’t understand your #2.
I think your 3 and 4 are due to Android.

I disagree with your #7. I think you need to tilt your seat back to make it look more like a V, I have a feeling your seat edge is pointed down, not up. Push the front up and see. Also, spend some time adjusting the lumbar support. That was needed for me. My 135i didn’t have lumbar support adjustment, and it was automatically comfortable. I had to fiddle with it in the M2… but have driven for hours without issues. And I’m sensitive with a bad lower back and know exactly what you say about getting out to stretch.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by M2siast

My gripes:

Your #1!!! What the heck… why not!? Right?
- having to wait 2 seconds to engage M1/M2 presets if they touch traction control.
- having to set M1/M2 every time (it always resets and never remembers).

I agree with your #6. A shame we can’t get circular dials. I can’t get used to the rev counter or speedometer. The only thing I pay attention to is the digital speedo. The other bars are useless.

I agree with your #10! I don’t have it either.
#11 my leg only rubs the rocker panel when I leave from the backseat. Carrying passengers will be a bitch.


I don’t understand your #2.
I think your 3 and 4 are due to Android.

I disagree with your #7. I think you need to tilt your seat back to make it look more like a V, I have a feeling your seat edge is pointed down, not up. Push the front up and see. Also, spend some time adjusting the lumbar support. That was needed for me. My 135i didn’t have lumbar support adjustment, and it was automatically comfortable. I had to fiddle with it in the M2… but have driven for hours without issues. And I’m sensitive with a bad lower back and know exactly what you say about getting out to stretch.

Man, I have fiddle fucked with that lumbar so much. I'll keep messing with it. I did eliminate a big issue I had initially, my right ass bone hurting.

For number 2, if you're driving a long time, a little chime comes up suggesting a break, it allows you to ignore it the rest of the drive. You can disable that somewhere in idrive8, but it reenables itself. Another user in my 1200 mile thread said that this stuff can be made permanent by setting up a profile in the phone app. I haven't confirmed myself yet. Maybe tomorrow.

[Ctothej]

Can I post a non owners gripe??
I don't have my car yet and you've done 4k on it!!!

[npirnia]

The sport brake setting just seems to change when the brakes start to engage. In comfort, there is a very small dead space in the first part of the pedal motion. In Sport it engages the moment any pressure is applied to the pedal. Otherwise very similar, but just seems to change the engagement point.

The benefit of the earlier engagement is that you can move from throttle to brake a fraction of a second quicker, which could be material on the track or a really aggressive backroad drive.

I find it tougher to rev match with sport brakes though since the M2’s pedals are spaced further apart and it takes a bit more throttle to raise engine RPMs compared to some other cars. Still nice to have the option.

-Nick

[DSTR]

How dare you criticize perfection - Im astonished there are any faults at all. YouTube said it was perfect !!!!!!!!!!

[ronin13013]

Gets everywhere.. Even the back bumper.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by ronin13013

Gets everywhere.. Even the back bumper.

Think that's rubber dust. My 996 Turbo was real bad about collecting that. The M2 has an aerodynamic shape that creates a big low pressure area immediately behind the car and rubber dust collecting mainly on the rear bumper is the result.

Rubber dust not so bad here (Benton County, AR) but was real bad in the SF Bay Area especially on I580 the stretch I drove M-F from Livermore CA to Hayward CA and back again -- my work commute. That road carried not only a huge number of passenger vehicles but heavy trucks, too.

[tylerdurdem]

So. Much. Brake. Dust.

But I will say, I tried a different wheel cleaner last night, some Turtle Wax Hybrid something or other with iron remover, and it along with a pressure washer does the trick, no more trying to shove a wash mitt into every goddamn nook and cranny on the wheels.

[tylerdurdem]

Also, gloss black plastic on the exterior of cars needs to go away and never come back.

[sacowich]

I tried the profile thing.
I’ve stopped using it since it asks for a 4 digit pin every time I start the car. Don’t have time for that.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by sacowich

I tried the profile thing.
I’ve stopped using it since it asks for a 4 digit pin every time I start the car. Don’t have time for that.

Isn’t the pin optional? Mine doesn’t ask for it.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by tylerdurdem

Also, gloss black plastic on the exterior of cars needs to go away and never come back.

That is another good one.

I was hoping that with the carbon fiber interior trim, that there wouldn't be any piano black, but nope, there's a couple of pieces of piano black and they're already looking scratched.

[BLU_G42]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Isn’t the pin optional? Mine doesn’t ask for it.

You can link a key to recognize your profile, if you get in with that key, it won’t ask for your pin

[eddj]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

As you've seen from my posts, I've been running my car hard the last 4K miles. I made a thread about my initial impressions at 1200 miles, so I thought I would toss up my gripes as well.

These are really nit picky, and, probably nothing new. A lot of us share the same gripes.


1) I cannot believe I can't connect the "sport" display to the M buttons. BIG FUCKIN MISS BMW. I hope you're watching/reading, and can push and over the air update to fix this mistake.

2) Apparently you cannot disable certain driver assistance functions without setting up a profile both in the car and the app. I haven't done the app yet but another member reports this works. Case in point, I don't need my car to remind me to take a brake, yet I cannot permanently disable this alert without setting up these profiles.

3) There is an overall ID8 lag. Nothing drastic, again, this is nit picky. However, for example, when I'm listening to my preset stations, if I press the scroll wheel to bring up the list to change stations, it takes a two count to come up. Again, nit picky. Definitely first world problem. This one or two count lag is experienced by me throughout the system, including when speaking commands to the car.

4) Android Auto randomly disconnects and reconnects. This has happened only a handful of times, and I'm not sure who is the blame..., ID8 or AA, but about 5-6 times now, it just disconnects itself. Fortunately, it reconnects.

5) I still don't know what that stupid exhaust button does, and I see we're still debating it on the forum. It should be simply exhaust valves open, or exhaust valves close. Come on BMW.

6) Why am I limited to two gauge displays? Why aren't there multiple factory gauge set ups, or, better yet, why can't I customize my own?

7) The sport seats aren't that comfortable. I finally did find a reasonably comfortable position (doesn't hurt lower back or neck) following the BMW driver school advice, but I have to stop every hour or two to stretch. That's just me though, of course. The seats aren't all that comfortable for a long drive. Short sprints, and up to an hour or two, yes, they're great. That said, I'm not sure any car is that comfortable after sitting for a couple hours. Again, nit picky.

8) I have discovered that regardless of how well you wash/dry the car, black streaks will emanate from the rocker panel body panels. Probably due to brake dust getting in there and then running out after a wash.

9) Another member posted a discernable difference between "comfort" and "sport" brakes, but I can't tell the difference. I just leave it in comfort.

10) The owners manual shows a left knee cubby, but my car doesn't have a left knee cubby. WTF!?




11) I can't NOT rub my leg on the rocker panel body kit when getting in. Thank goodness it's PPF'ed.



That's it, I think. I reserve the right to bitch as I put miles on her.


A bonus PLUS: I love the fact that they included a high powered USB-C port in the center console. Charges my phone fast.




What are your grips?


PS: Note, none of my gripes are about the performance. I am tickled pink with the performance.

For no. 10) I know they removed this starting with MY2023 2 series models as a cost cutting feature I know that for sure as my MY2023 m240i doesnt have it either but the MY2022 models have them ... it seems they just didnt update it in owner's manuals yet.

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by eddj

For no. 10) I know they removed this starting with MY2023 2 series models as a cost cutting feature I know that for sure as my MY2023 m240i doesnt have it either but the MY2022 models have them ... it seems they just didnt update it in owner's manuals yet.

Man that would be such a useful little cubby for random things.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by eddj

For no. 10) I know they removed this starting with MY2023 2 series models as a cost cutting feature I know that for sure as my MY2023 m240i doesnt have it either but the MY2022 models have them ... it seems they just didnt update it in owner's manuals yet.

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

Man that would be such a useful little cubby for random things.

Did they just put a blanking plate over it? Wonder if you could order the tray and retro fit it...

[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by Tag

Did they just put a blanking plate over it? Wonder if you could order the tray and retro fit it...

No it's molded.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

No it's molded.

Those muthafuggas

[Bumpinjeep]

After 1264 miles my gripes are as follows.
I too have no idea what the exhaust button does. Maybe it's to pump in the ADS? I was hoping that it would be a true exhaust flap button, but I have it set to "on" when I have M1 engaged so I don't really know.
I do wish that the car was indeed louder. When I cold started by F87C, I feel like it had a louder tone to it and in M2 (mode), it felt like it was louder. Maybe the motor will open up more the more I drive it?
You are also 100% correct on point 1, although I don't mind the normal display, I do wish that I could connect the sport display with the M1 button. Oh well, it's just a button and a knob twist away.
If we're talking nit picky gripes, mine is the "sport display". This setting shows the HP and TQ in real time. It's dumb in the G87 (two small bars inside the driver's gage instead of two large dials on the screen like the F87C). I wish it was like the F87C, it was easy to read and fun to watch, would rather have that in the "Sport display."
And of course the ingress and egress on the carbon buckets but hey, that's to be expected and at this point, I don't really care anymore.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

After 1264 miles my gripes are as follows.
I too have no idea what the exhaust button does. Maybe it's to pump in the ADS? I was hoping that it would be a true exhaust flap button, but I have it set to "on" when I have M1 engaged so I don't really know.
I do wish that the car was indeed louder. When I cold started by F87C, I feel like it had a louder tone to it and in M2 (mode), it felt like it was louder. Maybe the motor will open up more the more I drive it?
You are also 100% correct on point 1, although I don't mind the normal display, I do wish that I could connect the sport display with the M1 button. Oh well, it's just a button and a knob twist away.
If we're talking nit picky gripes, mine is the "sport display". This setting shows the HP and TQ in real time. It's dumb in the G87 (two small bars inside the driver's gage instead of two large dials on the screen like the F87C). I wish it was like the F87C, it was easy to read and fun to watch, would rather have that in the "Sport display."
And of course the ingress and egress on the carbon buckets but hey, that's to be expected and at this point, I don't really care anymore.

Mmm your gripes are very minor and can be addressed I think.
First, I posted a video of the sounds with the button on/off. As the manual states, it only changes the actual exhaust in Sport and Sport Plus (Engine modes).
In efficient mode you hear a difference inside the cabin (fake noise) when you push the button.
Here’s the video: https://g87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2025750

Also, when you say “M2” or “M1” they don’t mean much to us because we don’t know how you have them setup. It could be that you set them up as “Efficient” in the engine mode, and so the car is quieter.

Try to setup the presets (M1 or M2) as Sport Plus and with exhaust “ON”, and immediately press that button when you cold start the engine. The exhaust gets much louder.

Also, you can see the sports displays on the iDrive screen as a full screen thing I’m sure, I’ll see how to show you later, unless Justin has a good photo of it handy.

If you’re referring to having the sport displays (power and torque) in the “sport” mode for the dashboard, you can, as you can setup different widgets depending on mode (Road/Sport).
For example, I have the map showing in the “Road” display, and the tire pressure/temperature in “Sport”.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Mmm your gripes are very minor and can be addressed I think.
First, I posted a video of the sounds with the button on/off. As the manual states, it only changes the actual exhaust in Sport and Sport Plus (Engine modes).
In efficient mode you hear a difference inside the cabin (fake noise) when you push the button.
Here’s the video: https://g87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2025750

Also, when you say “M2” or “M1” they don’t mean much to us because we don’t know how you have them setup. It could be that you set them up as “Efficient” in the engine mode, and so the car is quieter.

Try to setup the presets (M1 or M2) as Sport Plus and with exhaust “ON”, and immediately press that button when you cold start the engine. The exhaust gets much louder.

Also, you can see the sports displays on the iDrive screen as a full screen thing I’m sure, I’ll see how to show you later, unless Justin has a good photo of it handy.

If you’re referring to having the sport displays (power and torque) in the “sport” mode for the dashboard, you can, as you can setup different widgets depending on mode (Road/Sport).
For example, I have the map showing in the “Road” display, and the tire pressure/temperature in “Sport”.

Awesome, i'll try to play with it and see if I can get those little thing addressed. My M1 settings are Sport for everything except brakes and steering (comfort on both), with the exhaust on. Who knows, I may have to spend some money and get an exhaust setup eventually.