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      11-13-2020, 03:27 AM   #1
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Anyone here have an OLED TV?

In the process of finishing our basement and want a good sports-watching TV. We are building a bar down there with a TV behind the bar but I am looking at larger size TV's (over 80 inch) for the main seating area where our couch will be.

I believe the biggest affordable OLED is around 77 inches right now.....I think they run $3500 or so.

My other options are QLED (which come in 82-85 inches I believe for around $2k-3k) and then your normal LED (same sizes for like $1500-2000).

I watch mostly sports on cable......will OLED even be worth it considering games are only broadcast in 720p or 1080i? I just don't want to spend 2x the price to watch a TV with features that won't even apply to my situation.
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I have an oled Samsung. Awesome.

We watch a ton of sports and it great.
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For sports, resolution is not what you focus on. It's about how the TV handles motion. LCDs have gotten better but there is still some artifacting. Some people are more sensitive with this and will pick it up. This is why plasmas were the preferred platform to watch sports on. OLED continues this. This is part of the reason why my next impending TV purchase will the the Sony A8H. Unfortunately, it doesn't have the size you want but for my situation, 65" is plenty.
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I have a 55” LG OLED. Great tv, particularly for shadows and dark colors.
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last night i was at PC Richards, saw a 8k TV for $2900.
dont remember if it was Sony or Samsung, but the image was crisp almost like 3D effect.

Once we get the keys to new house, i might go back and get it!!!
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I bought 2 of the Sony A8H 65" OLED TVs and they are spectacular. Don't forget - the very capable X1 processor chip in those TVs upscale content all the way up to faux 4K and do a good job.

Also, I have a Panasonic 55" Plasma TV and the Sony is just as good, if not better, in every regard. The blacks and contrast you get with OLED truly has to be seen to be believed.

We're very happy with them.
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I shall cling to my Panasonic plasma with my cold, dead hands.
I was the same with my Pioneer Kuro until I bought my Panasonic OLED.

For the OP, I have two OLEDs, 65” LG for the basement and 65” Panasonic for the family room. Both are great for watching sports.
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I have an oled Samsung. Awesome.

We watch a ton of sports and it great.
Samsung doesn’t make an OLED TV yet...assuming you mean QLED which is not the same as OLED.
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People say TV's are cheap but they are not. I bought a Hisense, top of the line LCD, 65 inch for $1K CDN on an absolute super deal and TBH the image quality is pretty poor. My 7 year old Plasma shits all over it. In particular with movement and particularly the soap opera effect. I have turned EVERY FUCKING SETTING OFF that relates to this shit effect but it is still there and I see it on all LCD TV's, i cannot get past it, looks so goddam fake.

So now you're looking at OLED to avoid SHITE and it's brutally expensive.
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I have an LG 65" OLED and like others said, it's not about the resolution - any device upsampling 720P to 4K will have the same effects.

The benefits of OLED are incredible contrast, and black-blacks.

If you watch a show that has a dark scene on an LED TV, chances are the whole screen is gray even though you percieve it as black. Adaptive backlighting on more expensive sets improves this, but it's still a limitation of the technology.

On an OLED when the screen turns black the room is dark. Great for watching stranger things or other horror movies.

For sports, you get great color and image quality and motion.

The ONLY downside (aside from cost) is the risk of burn in. My TV turned itself on once after a power outage and spent a few days stuck on the static home screen of my receiver and when the screen is pitch black you can still notice the ultra faint "DENON" logo. Now for me this was a problem because the TV is in my basement and at the time I was rarely downstairs. But if the TV is in your living room or a common area then it shouldn't be a problem unless you like to leave a news channel on 24/7, the ticker or other static areas can cause burn in over long periods of time.
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I have an LG 65" OLED and like others said, it's not about the resolution - any device upsampling 720P to 4K will have the same effects.

The benefits of OLED are incredible contrast, and black-blacks.

If you watch a show that has a dark scene on an LED TV, chances are the whole screen is gray even though you percieve it as black. Adaptive backlighting on more expensive sets improves this, but it's still a limitation of the technology.

On an OLED when the screen turns black the room is dark. Great for watching stranger things or other horror movies.

For sports, you get great color and image quality and motion.

The ONLY downside (aside from cost) is the risk of burn in. My TV turned itself on once after a power outage and spent a few days stuck on the static home screen of my receiver and when the screen is pitch black you can still notice the ultra faint "DENON" logo. Now for me this was a problem because the TV is in my basement and at the time I was rarely downstairs. But if the TV is in your living room or a common area then it shouldn't be a problem unless you like to leave a news channel on 24/7, the ticker or other static areas can cause burn in over long periods of time.
Yeah, burn in is definitely something I worry about.....especially since the manufacturer won't warranty that.
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Yeah, burn in is definitely something I worry about.....especially since the manufacturer won't warranty that.
Just looked at my TV right now for comparison, it actually went away or got significantly better over time. (But that was about a year ago maybe).

With a tiny amount of light on in the room I can perceive nothing left. If the room was pitch black maybe I could still see a faint outline.

Generally speaking as long as you aren't doing something with constant constant static image on the screen I think you'd be fine. Watching sports for a few hours isn't going to do anything, mine literally sat on that screen for at least a week straight.
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And if your TV has an enthusiast following, put in the proper calibration settings, pay an ISF calibrator to dial in your TV, or do it yourself. TVs ship from the factory with retina burning settings to make their TV pop on the sales floor. These are not the settings you should be running. If you use the proper settings on an OLED, you'll also decrease the risks of having burn in.
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And if your TV has an enthusiast following, put in the proper calibration settings, pay an ISF calibrator to dial in your TV, or do it yourself. TVs ship from the factory with retina burning settings to make their TV pop on the sales floor. These are not the settings you should be running. If you use the proper settings on an OLED, you'll also decrease the risks of having burn in.
Agreed. When you see the grass on a football field is highlighter green you know it's time to knock down the saturation.

I don't think I tweaked too much on mine I think there was a standard mode that had a much more neutral and balanced calibration and the monitor also does self-dimming based on ambient light, so it won't try to blow your retinas out if all the lights are off.

This is the slighty newer model of mine, I don't think the panel technology has changed much over the past few model years just more bells and whistles and assistant technology. I got mine for around $1650 after a bunch of deals and random rebates at the time.

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Calibration by a pro is super expensive, it's not hard to do yourself in a semi pro way. First turn the colour from cool to natural or warm, personally i find warm too warm but that is just me. Then drop saturation considerably and drop sharpening.

That will get you a far more natural looking image.
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Calibration by a pro is super expensive, it's not hard to do yourself in a semi pro way. First turn the colour from cool to natural or warm, personally i find warm too warm but that is just me. Then drop saturation considerably and drop sharpening.

That will get you a far more natural looking image.
Actually there's way more to it than what you describe. Yes, you can DIY this. But to do it some what properly you need to utilize a calibration DVD/Bluray. Just eyeballing it won't get you even in the ball park. I had my Pio 141FD calibrated by DNice from AVS Forum. He literally spent 4 hours dialing in that panel which was already pretty good out of the box. I have the calibration reports to show it. These guys don't just charge what they charge just for the hell of it.

I've chosen to go the cheaper way out by looking for calibration settings already published by reviewers or enthusiasts. I did this with the Hisense TV I got for my bedroom and the TCL TV I got for my vacation home. The adjustments involved way more than just picking a picture mode and tweaking basic color and sharpness settings. Hell the Hisense had a ton of settings for the white balance alone.
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Actually there's way more to it than what you describe. Yes, you can DIY this. But to do it some what properly you need to utilize a calibration DVD/Bluray. Just eyeballing it won't get you even in the ball park. I had my Pio 141FD calibrated by DNice from AVS Forum. He literally spent 4 hours dialing in that panel which was already pretty good out of the box. I have the calibration reports to show it. These guys don't just charge what they charge just for the hell of it.

I've chosen to go the cheaper way out by looking for calibration settings already published by reviewers or enthusiasts. I did this with the Hisense TV I got for my bedroom and the TCL TV I got for my vacation home. The adjustments involved way more than just picking a picture mode and tweaking basic color and sharpness settings. Hell the Hisense had a ton of settings for the white balance alone.
Thing is, whenever I ave a screen calibrated it is super, super warm. I realise many screens are too cold but the "correct" colour is borderling yellow.

I do more than I listed, i will also turn down the reds which are often blown out and use a black and white point grid to set gamma, contrast and brightness.
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Thing is, whenever I ave a screen calibrated it is super, super warm. I realise many screens are too cold but the "correct" colour is borderling yellow.

I do more than I listed, i will also turn down the reds which are often blown out and use a black and white point grid to set gamma, contrast and brightness.
Agreed. In the end there is some art and correction to what your preferences are. I prefer to try to stay close to reference. DNice also added his many years of experience to dialing in my 141FD. While it measures out to what reference guidelines are, he did do some tweaks to make the overall picture more natural.

I use published calibration settings as a starting point. If I there are issues, I tweak from there. I've found the settings cuts out a lot of the guess work and allows me to only worry about minor tweaks.
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