[rdr2go]

I was fortunate enough to get a M2. I now have about 300 miles on it. Thinking about a quick road trip to acquaint myself with it better and break it in and have some fun.
Would there be any negative if I went much over 1200 mile point where you are supposed to take it in for BMW to do first service? For example, if I didn't get the 1200 mile service until 2000 miles or so?

[T_U_D]

1500 miles is my extended limit on delaying the dealer performed break-in service.

[Ravenseal]

You're better off servicing it earlier than later. It can be done as early as 800 miles.

[aerobod]

Originally Posted by rdr2go

I was fortunate enough to get a M2. I now have about 300 miles on it. Thinking about a quick road trip to acquaint myself with it better and break it in and have some fun.
Would there be any negative if I went much over 1200 mile point where you are supposed to take it in for BMW to do first service? For example, if I didn't get the 1200 mile service until 2000 miles or so?

It could impact the resale value to anyone who knows the importance of that service. We already have a member on here who backed out of a deal to buy an M3 when he found out the break-in service had gone quite a bit past the scheduled point. You could always book a service on a road trip at a dealer enroute. I've done that before with a couple of vehicles, even doing it once with a Canadian vehicle to get the service in the US during a roadtrip.

[zero21]

Better to get it earlier than later for resale value. Will you hurt the engine? Probably not but I wouldn't go that far over.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by rdr2go

I was fortunate enough to get a M2. I now have about 300 miles on it. Thinking about a quick road trip to acquaint myself with it better and break it in and have some fun.
Would there be any negative if I went much over 1200 mile point where you are supposed to take it in for BMW to do first service? For example, if I didn't get the 1200 mile service until 2000 miles or so?

You wouldn't notice anything at first but gradually the car would start to behave differently. Your vision would start to blur, your ears would start to ring, and you'd get a tingling sensation in your hands and feet. The skies would get dark and then you'd feel nauseous. That's when you'd realize it was the BMW break-in police that used directed energy on you to make you pull over so they can service the car.

TLDR; Just bring it in for service on time.

[rdr2go]

Thanks everybody, I will get her done on time on mileage.

[Game]

I know if the car doesn't get an oil change in a timely fashion it can no longer be CPO'd down the line.

[zero21]

Originally Posted by RockCrusher

I have my M2 booked for an oil/filter service -- not the full "break in" service -- next Monday. Car will have between 500 to 600 miles.

Plan on getting the full break in service done at 1200 miles.

Why are you so obsessed with oil? Are you having them fill it up with break-in oil again? BMW has a recommended service schedule...

[Squidget]

Also, wow, this seems weird and I'd reaaaally want to talk to a mechanic about it, not just a CA. Are you SURE you can't manage the normal schedule?

[KC87ZB]

Originally Posted by RockCrusher

I have my M2 booked for an oil/filter service — not the full "break in" service — next Monday. Car will have between 500 to 600 miles.

Plan on getting the full break in service done at 1200 miles.

This fully perplexes me. I could see this if the car was many months old but you’ve only had it what, 2 weeks. The break-in fluids are there for a reason. Surprised the dealer would do this, but then if you are paying I guess they’ll do it.

[Rx-7ames]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Not sure they will swap out the break-in for break-in. Even if they claim they will, I would want to see proof with my own eyes cause it would not be normal for a dealership to do.

What is the break-in oil? I've never seen it on our parts shelves. I've only seen regular BMW oil.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Rx-7ames

What is the break-in oil? I've never seen it on our parts shelves. I've only seen regular BMW oil.

Some individuals believe that the factory fill is a special “break-in oil.” The oil samples that I have previously sent to Blackstone have anyways disputed that though.

Blackstone Laboratories https://www.blackstone-labs.com/

Edit, I located the following:

It was commonplace for OEMs to use break-in oils before car leasing became popular. As the EPA fuel economy requirements tightened, the need for less maintenance and better fuel economy ended the use of break-in oils as factory fill in new vehicles.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by KC87ZB

This fully perplexes me. I could see this if the car was many months old but you’ve only had it what, 2 weeks. The break-in fluids are there for a reason. Surprised the dealer would do this, but then if you are paying I guess they’ll do it.

I know of no factory that adds any break in oil/additive to an engine at manufacturing time.

(Had my 2002 Porsche Boxster factory oil analyzed at 4K miles. Nothing special. No extra antiwear additives. Just plain old Mobil 1 0w-40 oil which was the factory fill.)

Have seen videos of engine assembly, various brands: BMW, Porsche, Dodge, M-B, and few few others) and even for the cam/valve hardware just a little dribble of oil is used. When I rebuilt engines with at least an aftermarket cam at assembly time I applied a special grease to the cam lobes. The cam maker supplied the grease.

This was simply to provide a bit more protection to the cam lobes during and shortly after initial startup.

Might add that with the engines I worked on there was a way to spin the oil pump with an electric drill motor and I did this until oil pressure was created and some time after. This way the engine started up pretty much as it would start up ever after. With all the oil galleys and oil passages, etc., filled with oil.

The spinning of the oil pump with the drill motor also ensured the oil pump primed on its first use. To provide some extra assurance this would happen it was common practice to fill the oil pump gears with Vasoline. This helped prime the pump but then as the pump pulled in oll the Vasoline would just mingle with the engine oil and the oil would flow through the pump unhindered.

Also the accepted practice was to start the rebuilt engine and let it run for 15 minutes or so at around 2K to 3K RPMs. This ensured adequate oil flow to the cam/lifter hardware which in OHV engines is usually minimal at idle. After this run in time the oil was drained and the engine refilled with fresh oil and the filter replaced. The special grease was just there for the initial start.

Almost forgot. My auto tech buddies also told me to fill the new (well, rebuilt and like new at least in some areas) engine with the same oil it would be filled with when put to use. No special break in oil.

Will finish with it is my SOP to get an early oil/filter service for all my new vehicle engines -- unless this early oil/filter service is forbidden in the owners manual, maybe because there is some special "break in" oil in the engine but so far no owners manual has forbidden this. So the M2 engine will get this early oil/filter service too.

[JustinHEMI]

"So the M2 engine will get this early oil/filter service too."

Completely unnecessary, but it's your car, of course.

[T_U_D]

If anyone cares to send a sample of their “break-in oil” to Blackstone for analysis, you can request a sample kit here: https://www.blackstone-labs.com/prod...ree-test-kits/

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

If anyone cares to send a sample of their “break-in oil” to Blackstone for analysis, you can request a sample kit here: https://www.blackstone-labs.com/prod...ree-test-kits/

Is the initial oil from the factory synthetic?

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Is the initial oil from the factory synthetic?

Yes per my past break-in analysis on a non-M vehicle it came back as BMW 5W-30. This was a personal vehicle that I paid out of pocket to have the break-in procedure performed at 1500 miles.

FYI, Shell is the producer of BMW’s oils.

Edit, BTW the S58 uses a 0W-30 oil.

[Chris13002]

I’m at the service center now for my “break-in” service at 1100 miles and the service advisor just informed me that they are replacing the engine and differential fluids and that it can be a 2.5 hour job.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Chris13002

I’m at the service center now for my “break-in” service at 1100 miles and the service advisor just informed me that they are replacing the engine and differential fluids and that it can be a 2.5 hour job.

Ballpark to get it in the shop, up on a lift, complete the R.O., and get it out the door back to you. It physically does not take that long to perform the break-in service. A motivated tech can perform it in 30-40 minutes.

Edit, I hope you informed them not to wash it unless you want the free swirls?

[Chris13002]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

Edit, I hope you informed them not to wash it unless you want the free swirls?

Haha sure did tell them NOT to wash it. Good advice for all break-in services on this brand new car!

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Chris13002

Haha sure did tell them NOT to wash it. Good advice for all break-in services on this brand new car!

Also best to let them know in writing before taking delivery not to wash/buff/detail...or as stated abive, unless you want the custom swirl finish.

Hmmm.. a frozen swirl finish. Would that be considered an "individual" paint?