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i just need 1 number - give me the 1/4 mile time and speed and I know everything about how fast the car is... the rest will be felt out on how it feels on the street in terms of stability, turning, daily driving, weight, etc... track times will have 0 meaning to me especially when they are provided on non stock tires... this was the fallacy of the F87C which I owned... with proper tires it may get a good track time but on the street its all over the place, an objective measurement won't tell me that
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I will say this M2ss, if you want to come to NC sometime, you can drive both for just a couple thousand dollars and decide what your personal, informed opinion is. I’d enjoy meeting you and discussing. It’s always fun to hang out with other BMW folks!
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My post was with respect to tires only...
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Wow. Not sure how I would have reacted in that situation. It would be so easy to go to jail. I know its just a car and not worth it but Darwin's law is powerful.
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05-10-2023, 10:21 AM | #27 |
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And clearly we know why M2CS doesn’t like my opinion….
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Now I’m selling my f87 m2 CS. Hit me up if you want a mint one
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Why are we giving the OP a hard time? He gave his honest opinion and you don't have to agree. I really envy him.
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Soon, looks like prices are dropping quickly. Well, I should say, what the market is willing to pay is coming down quickly. Owners still aren't selling at what the market is offering, though, in some cases.
https://bringatrailer.com/bmw/m2/
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05-10-2023, 01:51 PM | #37 | |
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It is usually different and the data actually shows that the S58 under 3500 RPM is...lagging... |
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The only thing i disagree with having driven an f87 comp and now a g80 is the low end thing. The low end is way torquier on the f8x as supported by the power bands.
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The B58 low end TQ outshines it, S55 by a large margin...to the point of calling it "too wild" |
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Correction to my previous post by the way, previous owner of an F87C, not just driven. Now own a G80. I prefer the power band of the G80 as it feels more NA, but the excitement that the F87 provided is not matched. Those were scary on the low end, in a good way. These start giving a lot more fun past 3500 and all the way throughout the rev range (stupid 7200 rpm red line, don’t understand why manuals couldn’t have a later one, given that the ZF8 is the limitation).
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i honestly was never aware of this before. was curious as to why the S58 cars have a lower redline than the S55 cars despite having the same 3.0 displacement. now i know its the ZF8's fault.
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How do these compare to the 997.1 GT3?
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It might actually be something else like the power drops off… Better to shift up
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Drive a G87 hard then we can talk….
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