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      04-24-2023, 07:42 PM   #1
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Manual car e-brake question

I've never owned a manual car with an electronic emergency/parking brake. Does it automatically engage when you shut off the car like a lot of automatics do? Or does it work just like a physical e-brake and it doesn't engage unless you do it?
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I believe you have to engage it (and disengage it when leaving). It is an electronic e-brake. Button by the shift lever.
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I've never owned a manual car with an electronic emergency/parking brake. Does it automatically engage when you shut off the car like a lot of automatics do? Or does it work just like a physical e-brake and it doesn't engage unless you do it?
I've seen mine automatically disengage, but it definitely does not automatically engage. You could imagine how many times someone might accidentally press it.
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      04-24-2023, 08:18 PM   #4
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I haven’t had the electric parking brake on a BMW yet, but the Mk7 Golf R I had with one would engage the parking brake if you opened the door with it disengaged. It could then be released while the door stayed open.
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I've never owned a manual car with an electronic emergency/parking brake. Does it automatically engage when you shut off the car like a lot of automatics do? Or does it work just like a physical e-brake and it doesn't engage unless you do it?
Imagine a normal parking brake but as a button, you get used to it quick.
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      04-25-2023, 04:06 PM   #6
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Imagine a normal parking brake but as a button, you get used to it quick.
One of the buttons I wish had more heft to it. The plastic buttons and volume knob are a bit cheap.

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I've seen mine automatically disengage, but it definitely does not automatically engage. You could imagine how many times someone might accidentally press it.
I think some people may be confusing the manual's electric brake with the AUTO H feature, which only exists on automatics.
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      04-26-2023, 11:27 AM   #8
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The electronic parking brake is operated by a switch on the console. It does not automatically apply, but it will automatically disengage if you begin driving while it is on. Additionally the vehicle will hold the brakes momentarily when starting on an incline (automatically) to avoid rollback... maybe 2 seconds or so.
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See pages 123-126 of the Owner's Manual
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I think some people may be confusing the manual's electric brake with the AUTO H feature, which only exists on automatics.
That's a bummer. My Golf R 6 MT has an auto hold that works great. It's especially useful when driving on slopes with stop and go traffic and ramps into parking garages

I wonder why BMW doesn't use something similar on their MT cars
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      04-27-2023, 08:03 AM   #11
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That's a bummer. My Golf R 6 MT has an auto hold that works great. It's especially useful when driving on slopes with stop and go traffic and ramps into parking garages

I wonder why BMW doesn't use something similar on their MT cars
I'm pretty sure my f87 had that. Maybe I'm thinking of the Bullitt though. I always turn it off though because sometimes it holds the brakes a little to long for my liking.
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I'm pretty sure my f87 had that. Maybe I'm thinking of the Bullitt though. I always turn it off though because sometimes it holds the brakes a little to long for my liking.
It works great for me and always leave it on in my car except when I'm going thru an automated car wash. Reading the owner's manual it doesn't mention anything about the auto hold feature being only in automatic versions of the vehicle.

I'm guessing (and hoping) that this function is indeed included in the MT cars. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be.
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      04-27-2023, 10:17 AM   #13
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The MT G87 has a hill hold feature built in, I can confirm his from mine. When I let off the brake (after being stopped), the brakes hold for a few seconds and then release, preventing rollback. It’s not an auto hold like I have seen with my X3 and Giulia but it will help prevent rollback.
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My 2008 E90 335i 6MT also has hill hold feature.
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That's what I mean by confusion. Hill hold (which is on manuals and isn't a button) isn't the same as AUTO H (which is on automatics, and is a physical button).

If you open up the M2 configurator, and look at the internal pics of the cabins, you'll notice the automatic has one extra button near the shifter. That's the AUTO H button.

Auto H does a different thing. It prevents an automatic car from creeping when you lift your foot off the brake. It doesn't release until you press the accelerator. It's nice in stop and go traffic, especially on slopes.

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      04-27-2023, 02:54 PM   #16
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I think the manuals should have this feature, serves a great purpose on any slope (up or down)
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The MT G87 has a hill hold feature built in, I can confirm his from mine. When I let off the brake (after being stopped), the brakes hold for a few seconds and then release, preventing rollback. It’s not an auto hold like I have seen with my X3 and Giulia but it will help prevent rollback.
How good does this work if you are on a steep uphill parking or getting out of a spot but just need more time? On a normal e-brake, you can hold the car while manually making progress forward. It's just weird having a button and I really wished they trash the garbage tech and went traditional -- at least for manual vehicles.
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Hill hold is active for a few seconds, really only meant for transition from brake to accelerator.
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      06-23-2023, 10:56 PM   #19
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My parking brake auto-engaged exactly how the owners manual described its operation on page 126....for exactly 1-week.

Now for reasons unknown I have to activate it myself.

I guess that's the first bug detected.
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I wish there was a function to automatically engage the parking brake when the car is shut off. I’m always slightly paranoid.
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I wish there was a function to automatically engage the parking brake when the car is shut off. I’m always slightly paranoid.
It will automatically engage when Drive-ready state is switched off or the drivers door is opened (P126 of the manual, at least that is the case in the electronic copy I have).
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I wish there was a function to automatically engage the parking brake when the car is shut off. I’m always slightly paranoid.
That's what I was hoping. With an emergency brake lever it's hard to forget and easy to tell it's engaged. Not so much with an electric parking brake button.
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