Powerhaus Performance dyno results

chris82 · 11-22-2014, 02:29 PM

Hello all. So the Powerhaus Performance Dyno Day was a big hit. This is an excellent shop. Great guys there and they know what they're doing. They had cars ranging from an SLS AMG to Evo 9s. In the group that showed up for the dyno we had everything from an E30 S52, E46 M3, E60 M5, 1M, 750i, and a lot of tuned 135i and 335i. It was a great time. 631 was the only other N52 powered car to show up unfortunately. He took vids of most of the cars so I'm sure we'll see a compilation up at some point.

Here are my results with the 128i. It's a 2008 6MT with the N51 motor which has the 3 stage manifold stock. The engine/exhaust mods include the charcoal air filter delete and the Active Autowerke tune; all else is stock. Powerhaus uses a Mustang Dyno so the numbers are about 10% lower than they would be on a dyno jet. This was the first time I've had this car on a dyno and I'm impressed. My car put down 221 whp and 207 wtq. Using a 15% drivetrain loss, this car is putting out 254hp and 238tq at the crank.

Video, the pull is at 1:30 and another at 2:20

Dyno graph:

rick100 · 11-22-2014, 02:37 PM

those are great results.But I find hard to believe your car is putting down 220 at the wheels on a mustang dyno.. That means it would be putting down around 230 at the wheels on a dynojet ?? , in which case the power at the crank would be a lot more than 250 .. I dont recall anyone putting down so much from the AA tune ,. Maybe I m missing out something

cpie168 · 11-22-2014, 04:47 PM

What are the numbers before the tune?

Taskmaster · 11-22-2014, 05:10 PM

Were 631 and Stig there? Did they dyno?
Impressive numbers, feel free to add it to the dyno thread!

631twentyeighteye · 11-22-2014, 07:22 PM

Here's my dyno. Believe it or not that mustang dyno read's pretty low. Stock 135i and a stock 335i both dyno'd 240rwhp. I don't recall the torque numbers but they were both identical between the two cars.

This is my dyno.

edit: me and Chrisar will have to do a pull one time i guess to compare.

chris82 · 11-22-2014, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cpie168

What are the numbers before the tune?

It was tuned when I bought it 30k miles ago. No clue

Mike. · 11-23-2014, 06:28 AM

the fact that I missed this event is killing me

631twentyeighteye · 11-23-2014, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Emozoo

the fact that I missed this event is killing me

My apologies, i forgot to post about it in here. The event was "full" as in a bunch of people called to reserve a spot, but not all showed up or dyno'd so there was room for a couple more cars. We plan on doing it in the spring again, don't worry.

Southjersey128 · 11-23-2014, 10:51 AM

I can't believe I didn't know about this. My crossfit is literally next door to there.

Eagle1oh7 · 11-23-2014, 11:56 AM

N51 running only an AA tune with not exhaust, header or intake mods(minuse charcoal delete)? Sounds pretty damn impressive...

Mike. · 11-23-2014, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

My apologies, i forgot to post about it in here. The event was "full" as in a bunch of people called to reserve a spot, but not all showed up or dyno'd so there was room for a couple more cars. We plan on doing it in the spring again, don't worry.

no worries,but yeah let me know!!

SACsac12 · 11-23-2014, 07:10 PM

What gear did you do your pulls in?

631twentyeighteye · 11-23-2014, 07:20 PM

4th. i checked the video i have. that will be posted soon enough. Sadly i missed Chrisar's dyno bt he has video of it.

chris82 · 11-23-2014, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SACsac12

What gear did you do your pulls in?

I don't know, but the gear doesn't affect numbers on a Mustang dyno

njvader · 11-23-2014, 11:31 PM

Nice shop, had a car tuned there a couple of years ago. The owner has/had a ridiculous GT3

... Impressive numbers! Excited to get the AA tune along with their catless headers. If they have a spring event and my mods are in, I would be down to go!

chris82 · 11-24-2014, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njvader

Nice shop, had a car tuned there a couple of years ago. The owner has/had a ridiculous GT3

... Impressive numbers! Excited to get the AA tune along with their catless headers. If they have a spring event and my mods are in, I would be down to go!

Thanks man, one of the guys had a supercharged E92 M3, it put down 517whp!

631twentyeighteye · 11-24-2014, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njvader

Nice shop, had a car tuned there a couple of years ago. The owner has/had a ridiculous GT3

... Impressive numbers! Excited to get the AA tune along with their catless headers. If they have a spring event and my mods are in, I would be down to go!

Owner has a ESS 625+ kit e92 m3 now. It sounds absolutely fantastic

Here's my video of the cars dynoing on Saturday

2006E85 · 11-24-2014, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick100

those are great results.But I find hard to believe your car is putting down 220 at the wheels on a mustang dyno.. That means it would be putting down around 230 at the wheels on a dynojet ?? , in which case the power at the crank would be a lot more than 250 .. I dont recall anyone putting down so much from the AA tune ,. Maybe I m missing out something

I put down 235hp on a dynojet, but it was with a Z4 3.0si (Claimed 255Hp Crank from BMW).

I think the N51's have the 3-stage intake Manifold,and the AA tune takes that and turns it into 330/Z4 3.0si figures.

chris82 · 11-24-2014, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2006E85

I put down 235hp on a dynojet, but it was with a Z4 3.0si (Claimed 255Hp Crank from BMW).

I think the N51's have the 3-stage intake Manifold,and the AA tune takes that and turns it into 330/Z4 3.0si figures.

You're correct on the manifold part. And I noticed my numbers are spot on with an AA tuned Z4 3.0si or 330i

bNks334 · 11-24-2014, 02:06 PM

The results for the N51 are impressive. I would like to see what you put down with headers. I have an N51 myself and maybe I will be happy with just a tune and intake/exhaust. Your car put down the same numbers as an N52 with headers and a tune and other mods!

njvader · 11-24-2014, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisar82

Thanks man, one of the guys had a supercharged E92 M3, it put down 517whp!

Makes wanna get on a more powerful platform. But been there and done that, priorities are very different now.

Both of you got really nice numbers, i will see less since im Xdriive. Hoping the catless headers and intake mod make up for the difference in drivetrain loss. Who would have thought the n51 could make as much power as it does.

hellrotm · 12-13-2014, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 631twentyeighteye

Owner has a ESS 625+ kit e92 m3 now. It sounds absolutely fantastic

Do remember what the owner's car put down on the dyno?

Are the results from the dyno posted anywhere?

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chris82 Brigadier General 827 Rep 3,856 Posts Drives: 128i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NY NY iTrader: (8) Garage List 2009 BMW 128i [9.80]	Powerhaus Performance dyno results \| Active Autowerke tuned 128i Hello all. So the Powerhaus Performance Dyno Day was a big hit. This is an excellent shop. Great guys there and they know what they're doing. They had cars ranging from an SLS AMG to Evo 9s. In the group that showed up for the dyno we had everything from an E30 S52, E46 M3, E60 M5, 1M, 750i, and a lot of tuned 135i and 335i. It was a great time. 631 was the only other N52 powered car to show up unfortunately. He took vids of most of the cars so I'm sure we'll see a compilation up at some point. Here are my results with the 128i. It's a 2008 6MT with the N51 motor which has the 3 stage manifold stock. The engine/exhaust mods include the charcoal air filter delete and the Active Autowerke tune; all else is stock. Powerhaus uses a Mustang Dyno so the numbers are about 10% lower than they would be on a dyno jet. This was the first time I've had this car on a dyno and I'm impressed. My car put down 221 whp and 207 wtq. Using a 15% drivetrain loss, this car is putting out 254hp and 238tq at the crank. Video, the pull is at 1:30 and another at 2:20 Dyno graph: Last edited by chris82; 11-25-2014 at 03:27 PM..
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