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      01-11-2015, 11:16 AM   #1
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Have I got a leg to stand on?

Hi guys,

I've noticed the last couple of days I seem to have the early stages of clutch judder.

First and second gear, judders. Hot or cold, all other gears fine.

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Original clutch as far as I know.

I'm guessing with the age & mileage BMW won't do anything so I either cough up at an Indiy, or live with it?

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      01-11-2015, 11:17 AM   #2
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Clutch is classed as a wear and tear item just like brake pads
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      01-11-2015, 11:17 AM   #3
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107k is a good innings for a clutch and flywheel

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107k is a good innings for a clutch and flywheel

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      01-11-2015, 11:23 AM   #5
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Thought as much. Bugger.

Circa £900 at an Indy from what I've read?
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      01-11-2015, 11:25 AM   #6
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From the memory, one of the forum member bought it from ECP and changed it himself (with his mate).
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      01-11-2015, 11:32 AM   #7
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From the memory, one of the forum member bought it from ECP and changed it himself (with his mate).
Cheers.

£456 in parts on ECP. Il go and have a chat with my local mechanic to see what sort of labour I should expect.

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I have heard its bugger of a job.
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I have heard its bugger of a job.
I certainly won't be doing it myself!
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I don't blame you.
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You dont need to do it straight away

I've had vibes and clutch judder for the last 20k

Hasnt got any worse
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You dont need to do it straight away

I've had vibes and clutch judder for the last 20k

Hasnt got any worse
That's handy to know. I only really noticed it yesterday after towing over 100 miles



However I've also noticed a bit of a vibration in the clutch pedal - I assume this is part of it?
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      01-11-2015, 11:44 AM   #13
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I've heard off a mate who used to work at bmw it's not a massively hard job as long as have the right tools/ramp but guess could be said about anything, my local Indy said that clutch judder will happen in most 320ds and not a major issue unless it gets a lot worse.

Could still have quite abit of life in it though
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Dual mass flywheel giving up

Clutch is probably fine but if your changing flywheel might as well change clutch at 107k

But doesnt need done imminantly
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Dual mass flywheel giving up

Clutch is probably fine but if your changing flywheel might as well change clutch at 107k

But doesnt need done imminantly
My Dual Mass Flywheel went, had it replaced with a new clutch under warranty

Warranty bill to BMW was over £1200 iirc, they claimed it was a engine out job
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If parts are 450, come and take a drive down my side and ill get labour charge for around £150. Gearbox has to come out for most clutch and flywheel change. (Btw, you will change the flywheel wont you if your thinking of changing clutch)
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You could try fitting a clutch delay valve, which gets rid of any delay. Quite a cheap and easy job to try. Can either buy one or mod your existing one.

http://www.zeckhausen.com/cdv.htm
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      01-11-2015, 02:02 PM   #18
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If parts are 450, come and take a drive down my side and ill get labour charge for around £150. Gearbox has to come out for most clutch and flywheel change. (Btw, you will change the flywheel wont you if your thinking of changing clutch)
£150 labour? Where?
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£150 labour? Where?
garages i know charge £150 to change clutch n flywheel labour only
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If parts are 450, come and take a drive down my side and ill get labour charge for around £150. Gearbox has to come out for most clutch and flywheel change. (Btw, you will change the flywheel wont you if your thinking of changing clutch)
The price I mentioned is clutch kit & DMF so yeah

I think il be able to get a similar labour rate from our local mechanic as he's been the family mech for years.

Il see how bad it gets first though as there's no plan to change car for quite a while now
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Which garages cupraraj?
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Also try carpart4less.
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