Metal in oil filter and oil pan

E90ALLMANUAL · 01-26-2016, 07:51 PM

I took my car to the dealer for a leaking oil pan gasket and the tech found some metal in the filter and the oil pan. No check engine light and it runs good.

I bought the car back in 2013 with 38K miles. It now has 60K. It has another year of CPO.

I always do 5K miles oil changes with OEM parts.

Car info:
?2011 328i
?Sport package
?manual trans

Can I send the filter to Black Stone for analysis? What do you think?

Fundguy1 · 01-26-2016, 07:52 PM

I'd send it. That looks serious. If you have warranty I'd have dealer diagnose and fix it immediately.

hassmaschine · 01-26-2016, 08:58 PM

Thats a lot of metal.

Rival · 01-27-2016, 01:06 PM

CPO......get it in quick

E90ALLMANUAL · 01-27-2016, 02:55 PM

I might wait until the next oil change(5K miles) and check the filter again.

Taskmaster · 01-27-2016, 06:04 PM

Don't wait, do it now. That's a potential warranty issue. Who knowa what will happen in the future and how it may inconvenience you.

E90ALLMANUAL · 01-27-2016, 07:48 PM

I just pick up the car yesterday for the leaking oil pan gasket. The tech documented the metal in the repair order. So there is evidence.

Eagle1oh7 · 01-27-2016, 08:20 PM

Yikes!!

justpete · 01-27-2016, 08:26 PM

That looks like a ring disintegrated. Wait until the next oil change and they may not honor the warranty if the problem wasn't addressed as soon as it was discovered.

E90ALLMANUAL · 01-27-2016, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by justpete

That looks like a ring disintegrated. Wait until the next oil change and they may not honor the warranty if the problem wasn't addressed as soon as it was discovered.

But the car is running ok. No smoke, normal idle. Same power.

E90ALLMANUAL · 01-27-2016, 08:45 PM

On a side note. Until 6 months ago, I was a tech at the dealership. I'm a certified BMW master tech. I know everybody there. Some I'm not worry about having warranty problems.

justpete · 01-27-2016, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by E90ALLMANUAL

On a side note. Until 6 months ago, I was a tech at the dealership. I'm a certified BMW master tech. I know everybody there. Some I'm not worry about having warranty problems.

okie dokie

weehe126 · 01-27-2016, 10:16 PM

Master tech that doesn't want to investigate that much metal in oil for 5000+ miles. Glad I don't go to that dealership.

Fundguy1 · 01-27-2016, 10:33 PM

The metal is coming from somewhere aND I'm sure it was chewing on something before the filter got all that. That's what it looks like just before a rod goes through the block.

Taskmaster · 01-27-2016, 11:53 PM

OP please don't ignore this, it's a major problem brewing.

E90ALLMANUAL · 01-28-2016, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by weehe126

Master tech that doesn't want to investigate that much metal in oil for 5000+ miles. Glad I don't go to that dealership.

Calm down. It's pretty obvious that this is not going to go away. It will get worse. I have the filter and its documented in the repair order.

Volasko · 01-28-2016, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by E90ALLMANUAL

Calm down. It's pretty obvious that this is not going to go away. It will get worse. I have the filter and its documented in the repair order.

OP asks for our advice then tells us all to calm down when we tell him its a major issue. Go figure! lol

E90ALLMANUAL · 01-28-2016, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Volasko

Quote:

Originally Posted by E90ALLMANUAL

Calm down. It's pretty obvious that this is not going to go away. It will get worse. I have the filter and its documented in the repair order.

OP asks for our advice then tells us all to calm down when we tell him its a major issue. Go figure! lol

I don't need a forum to know there is a problem in the engine. I made this post to put it out there . This is not normal. Specially on N52.

Until there is a more evidence, a SES light or engine noise. It will be very difficult to get an engine.

If I had a month left in my warranty I would be freaking out. But 14 months and 40K miles should be enough.

avocet · 01-28-2016, 11:32 PM

Is the metal magnetic? I would absolutely send that out for analysis.

kong24680 · 01-29-2016, 01:27 AM

Personally, if it was my car and I didn't have too much invested in it, I would sell it ASAP. Even if the problem later arises, dealing with it will be a major pain in the ass. You might even be make a good return on investment since it's still under CPO warranty. Sorry to hear about your problem OP, and good luck!

Dopeslope · 01-29-2016, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by E90ALLMANUAL

I don't need a forum to know there is a problem in the engine. I made this post to put it out there . This is not normal. Specially on N52.

Until there is a more evidence, a SES light or engine noise. It will be very difficult to get an engine.

If I had a month left in my warranty I would be freaking out. But 14 months and 40K miles should be enough.

More evidence ? I wouldnt of taken the keys back!

The next piece of evidence you get could be your engine going pop.

To keep driving that car, knowing there is a potential serious problem is putting yourself and other road users at risk.

hassmaschine · 01-29-2016, 09:18 AM

the hyperbole on this forum is a bit extreme (putting other road users at risk? lol)

but, on that note, remind me never to buy a car from kong24680..

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E90ALLMANUAL Private 23 Rep 91 Posts Drives: E90/328i/no sunroof Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Alabama iTrader: (0)	Metal in oil filter and oil pan I took my car to the dealer for a leaking oil pan gasket and the tech found some metal in the filter and the oil pan. No check engine light and it runs good. I bought the car back in 2013 with 38K miles. It now has 60K. It has another year of CPO. I always do 5K miles oil changes with OEM parts. Car info: ?2011 328i ?Sport package ?manual trans Can I send the filter to Black Stone for analysis? What do you think? Attached Images
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01-26-2016, 07:52 PM	#2
Fundguy1 Major General 2033 Rep 8,339 Posts Drives: 335 e93 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando, fl iTrader: (0)	I'd send it. That looks serious. If you have warranty I'd have dealer diagnose and fix it immediately.
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hassmaschine Major General 3975 Rep 7,215 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	Thats a lot of metal.
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Rival Captain 66 Rep 790 Posts Drives: 95 z28 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: shytown iTrader: (0)	CPO......get it in quick __________________ 2010 335i M sport 2008 328i 2006 325i 1995 Z28 6spd - 377rwhp rip
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E90ALLMANUAL Private 23 Rep 91 Posts Drives: E90/328i/no sunroof Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Alabama iTrader: (0)	I might wait until the next oil change(5K miles) and check the filter again.
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Taskmaster Banned 2469 Rep 9,004 Posts Drives: M235i 6MT / E92 328 Msport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Florida iTrader: (6)	Don't wait, do it now. That's a potential warranty issue. Who knowa what will happen in the future and how it may inconvenience you.
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E90ALLMANUAL Private 23 Rep 91 Posts Drives: E90/328i/no sunroof Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Alabama iTrader: (0)	I just pick up the car yesterday for the leaking oil pan gasket. The tech documented the metal in the repair order. So there is evidence.
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E90ALLMANUAL Private 23 Rep 91 Posts Drives: E90/328i/no sunroof Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Alabama iTrader: (0)	On a side note. Until 6 months ago, I was a tech at the dealership. I'm a certified BMW master tech. I know everybody there. Some I'm not worry about having warranty problems.
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01-27-2016, 10:16 PM	#13
weehe126 Brigadier General 1161 Rep 3,190 Posts Drives: 2017 340i Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: San Antonio iTrader: (2)	Master tech that doesn't want to investigate that much metal in oil for 5000+ miles. Glad I don't go to that dealership.
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01-27-2016, 10:33 PM	#14
Fundguy1 Major General 2033 Rep 8,339 Posts Drives: 335 e93 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando, fl iTrader: (0)	The metal is coming from somewhere aND I'm sure it was chewing on something before the filter got all that. That's what it looks like just before a rod goes through the block.
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Taskmaster Banned 2469 Rep 9,004 Posts Drives: M235i 6MT / E92 328 Msport 6MT Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Florida iTrader: (6)	OP please don't ignore this, it's a major problem brewing.
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avocet Major 252 Rep 1,157 Posts Drives: 2007 328i 2011 X5d Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Vancouver bc iTrader: (0)	Is the metal magnetic? I would absolutely send that out for analysis.
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hassmaschine Major General 3975 Rep 7,215 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	the hyperbole on this forum is a bit extreme (putting other road users at risk? lol) but, on that note, remind me never to buy a car from kong24680..
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