[DocWeatherington]

Hats off to GM again.. But now the question what happens to the Vette ? Something tells me there might not be a Z/28 with this gen...

I think the Mustang and Hellcat just got served a piece of pie..

Supercharged 6.2-liter V8 cranking out an estimated 640 horsepower and 640 pound-feet of torque.

10-speed automatic transmission ( Co-Developed with Ford... 640 ft lbs ...10 Speeds.. that's crazy, I wonder what the max is on that tranny)
200 Pounds less than the less Gen ZL1 (EST 3850)
Six-piston Brembos with two-piece rotors
20Inch Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tires
Standard with 11 heat exchangers for proper powertrain cooling
Food for thought 2015 ZL1 was $57,800 ( Shipping and Gas Guzzler).. I doubt this will move much price wise..

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2017-...t-look-review/
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/16/2...-look-3487537/

[FC4]

First the dweebs on Motor Trend and now this...can these media companies hire a guy who's seen a naked woman in real life to review cars?

[pikkagtr]

Only ten speeds?? Not even fast and furious level
Need at least 15 speeds to compete

[AIRPOWER]

Bowtie has done it again. Good on them, if only they would have updated the '16 Camaro body styling a little more than subtleties.....

[DDD31]

10 speeds, whoop dee freakin doo! How many speeds do you need? Do we really need a transmission that's constantly shifting to find the optimum gear? Back in my day we had 3 speeds and we loved it, now get off my lawn!

[yousefnjr]

Sheesh, 600+ hp becoming an everyday thing. Good times.

[Never_Enough]

You'll be shifting all day, Jesus.

They still failed on the spoiler here. Loving the red seat belts, though. I wanted to do orange belts in my Z06, but looks like that would run me $500+. Pass!

[David70]

Originally Posted by BoostedRide

You'll be shifting all day, Jesus.

It's an automatic, so only if you want to.

I do think the benefits of an 10 speed over an 8 are close to non existent. When transmissions had 3 speeds and went to 4 there was a big benefit but with each extra gear added now it is close to pointless.

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by David70

It's an automatic, so only if you want to.

I do think the benefits of an 10 speed over an 8 are close to non existent. When transmissions had 3 speeds and went to 4 there was a big benefit but with each extra gear added now it is close to pointless.

BoostedRide
DDD31

I think the only benefits with 10 gears is in the SUV/ Truck market. Great for towing but in a car, I think 8 is probably more than enough.

The real question will be when EPA numbers get released and if this has good/decent MPGs due to a 10speed and how often its actually in 10th. If 100mph is in 3 gear whats the point.

[Ravenseal]

They ran out of power to make, so they added 5 more gears? Christ.

[gtron]

wtf that grille?

[Shredicus]

Originally Posted by gtron

wtf that grille?

They need all of the camaro's enormous gaping maw to stuff with 10 different radiators

[PopsnBurbles]

10 speed? a bit more and we're going to hit what some Semi-Trucks run.

10 is four too many IMO.

Either way, sweet car for the money but it's something I wouldn't consider buying.

[TXSTYLE]

Not a fan of the car in general BUT... I am a fan of the engine and transmission! Well done GM, well done! Those gears will in FACT improve fuel economy and make this beast very docile around town in the city where it will see most of it's use.

[David70]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

BoostedRide
DDD31

I think the only benefits with 10 gears is in the SUV/ Truck market. Great for towing but in a car, I think 8 is probably more than enough.

The real question will be when EPA numbers get released and if this has good/decent MPGs due to a 10speed and how often its actually in 10th. If 100mph is in 3 gear whats the point.

I was surprised when I rented a Camaro SS manual from Budget (all of this was the first surprise - and not the midsize I reserved) and riding along in 6th gear you really had to be going a decent speed, probably at least 65 or you would have to downshift for any meaningful acceleration or uphill. I don't think EPA Hwy ratings are done at high speed so I wonder where the extra 4 ratios are going. If the new 10th is slightly higher than the old 6th there will be a lot of shifts for daily driving and any time you want to accelerate at all it will want to downshift a few gears. You step on it and it drops down 6 gears?

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by BoostedRide

You'll be shifting all day, Jesus.

Nah, most tracks you won't get out of 6th while driving in manual mode. Daily driving 10 speeds will be good for mpg in auto mode.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Nah, most tracks you won't get out of 6th while driving in manual mode. Daily driving 10 speeds will be good for mpg in auto mode.

I'm talking about on the street. 10 speeds, that car will be gear hunting all the time. Who buys an auto to run around in manual mode? You can't shift better than the damn computer.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by BoostedRide

I'm talking about on the street. 10 speeds, that car will be gear hunting all the time. Who buys an auto to run around in manual mode? You can't shift better than the damn computer.

Maybe, Chrysler 8spd hunts all over the place, BMW doesn't. Same transmission.

I wouldn't buy an auto ZL-1 tho, too heavy.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by BoostedRide

I'm talking about on the street. 10 speeds, that car will be gear hunting all the time. Who buys an auto to run around in manual mode? You can't shift better than the damn computer.

You can't make that assumption without knowing the gear ratios, or how many gears are overdrives, or how many are power gears, etc.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

Maybe, Chrysler 8spd hunts all over the place, BMW doesn't. Same transmission.

I wouldn't buy an auto ZL-1 tho, too heavy.

LOL @ weight being the reason

[ShocknAwe]

10 speed sounds like a marketing ploy to me.

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

Maybe, Chrysler 8spd hunts all over the place, BMW doesn't. Same transmission.

I wouldn't buy an auto ZL-1 tho, too heavy.

Chrysler has a 9-spd on the 200. Go figure that one out.

Edit: Avoid that car like the plague if you ever get a rental.