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Thinking outside the box--Calipers
So I have been wanting to upgrade my brakes and am in the process of figuring out which ones I want. Then I ran across a thread on the e90 side of things and one from another forum that used Cadillac CTS-V brembo calipers. They are either 4 or 6 pot like our M performance brakes, but are much much less expensive. On the E46 board and the e90 side, they found a company to make a custom bracket to hold the calipers to our specs. I contacted them and they said they were going to start doing this for F30 fitment this coming summer. You can buy these brakes for about half the amount of ours.
Thoughts? I am not saying I am going to do this, but thought it might be an option. Here is a pic of some CTS-V calipers.
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It's hard to tell, but those look like the rear calipers? Those are 4-pot, they don't look like the set that came with the 6-pot fronts either, maybe the oldest CTS-V model (before the 556hp supercharged one)? They do look like the calipers on my Camaro SS, but like I said without scale it's hard to tell if they are the fronts or the rear. The brembos on the SS were strong though, felt much better than my BMW ones. I think that maybe has something to do with the auto-braking with active cruise control/collision avoidance.
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The 4 pot in the previous post sell for $300 for the pair...we can't sniff one caliper for that price. I am just trying to think outside the box and come up with alternatives. Ido understand many if not most people would have a hard time putting brakes on a car that they were not designed for, however, they are Brembos and there are many Porsche brake retrofits for the E46 M3 and the E9x chassis.
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I've seen the Camaro SS brembos on quite a few different vehicles, it's a very common caliper, although I'm not sure if the mounts are always different. Like I said, they worked good, car about the same weight as my 428 with Msport brakes, but I doubt there'd be a huge difference over m-sport, unless you don't even have m-sport, then I guess it's a "what the heck, it's only money", but hard to say if it could be unsafe, you're basically becoming a test-subject now as far as forces and comparability.
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The question I also have is if we upgrade to 6 pot front and 4 pot rear is their coding for that already in the system or is it a custom coding? I don't know squat about coding either. I am just an idea man. I like coming up with ideas and having other (smarter) people figure out the how do we do it.
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Problem with the pictured brembo set is that it's radial mounted on that bracket with studs. GM calipers on eBay etc are going to have GM mounting holes built into the caliper body
The idea is intriguing, but what's your application for big brakes? Are you tracking the car or just for show? Blue "2NH" M brakes can be had for $1300 on e-bay for complete setup (rotors, pads, calipers). CTS-V has 380mm fronts and 365mm rears. Camaro ZL1 shows 370mm front with 6-pot and 365 mm in the rear with 4-pot. The biggest rotors we can get for our cars from BMW are 370mm fronts and 345 rears. Once oversized rotors are involved the prices skyrocket. |
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I occasionally track the car, but some will be for aesthetics. I don't particularly like the looks of the blue 2NH brakes...not the blue, but the style. I like the look of these M performance E88 calipers. They are radial mount with a bracket just like the Brembos above. Now with all that said, I purchased and am waiting to be delivered some 335 front brakes (gray) and 345x30 rotors. I am going to powder coat them, but am also looking at other options that will give me better braking and better aesthetics. Just trying to see what else I can do and don't like to be limited.
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What's your budget for the brakes upgrade? Brembo or AP Racing 6-piston front / 4-piston rear brakes average $3.5K per axle. My humble suggestion is to select brakes designed and engineered for your vehicle. If you haven't had a chance to explore AP Racing brakes technology, it's a good first step before committing to a specific course of action.
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I talked to a few people and thought we could make it happen, but I ended up finding a good deal on a complete set of M Performance brakes and did those instead. I still think this would work with the correct bracket.
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