Torn. Please help a Newbie.

ShadowmanVII · 03-04-2017, 10:48 AM

Hey Guys & Girls. I'm a long time reader and 1st time poster. So Hi

I really need your help please. I am trading my 116i M Sport Plus for either a E93 or F33 Convertible.

I'm posting a duplicate thread on the F33 section of the forum too just to get both sides of the story.

I've done as much research as I can but I'm still unable to decide. The E93 I've seen is cheaper by £2,640 and has more kit but the F33 looks nicer and has more modern kit.

If people are interested here is the full list of kit on the E93;
- Folding Mirrors
- Media Package Pro
- Sat Nav Pro
- Enhance Bluetooth (USB & Voice)
- DAB Radio
- USB Audio
- Cruise Control
- Park Distance Control (rear only)
- Headlight wash
- Rain & light sensor
- Xenon Headlights
- Heated Seats
- Auto Dimming Rear View Mirror
- Automatic Air Con
- Extended Interior Light Pack
- Electric Front Seats

Whereas the F33 has all of that (minus Electric Front Seats) and the Cruise Control has the brake function (don't think the E93 has the brake function) plus;
- Heated Steering Wheel
- Extended Storage
- Through Load System
- Wind Deflector
- Air Collar
- Full Black Panel Display
- Comfort Pack

They both have less than 20k on the clock and both are 2014 models, both manual and both have 2l Diesel engines (for economy). The F33 is £23,490 and the E93 is £20,850 but I was hoping people could let me in on how their particular vehicle is working out for them, problems, running costs, ect.

Thanks a lot Guys and Girls. I hope to hear from you soon

Digitalize · 03-04-2017, 10:59 AM

Electric front seats can either be pointless or a God send, depending on if two different people drive the car or not. I'm assuming by electric they're also memory? If not I'd ignore them and go for the F33, but if they are and you regularly have two people driving it I'd consider the E93 just for that convenience.

ShadowmanVII · 03-04-2017, 11:06 AM

Yeah they are memory and my wife likes her 116i Sport but she'll need to use my every so often as I travel with work (out the country) a few times a year for semi lengthy periods so she'll use it maybe once a week to go to work and back.

tadaska · 03-04-2017, 11:09 AM

Only £2.6k difference? Looks like a no-brainer to me

Digitalize · 03-04-2017, 11:14 AM

At maybe once a week I'd probably not be worried about memory seats then and just go for the F33. It will have a newer Diesel engine that's better on fuel, the newer better iDrive system, and it will just look and feel newer.

ShadowmanVII · 03-04-2017, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tadaska

Only £2.6k difference? Looks like a no-brainer to me

...as in go for the more modern designed 420d or the 320d is just as good? Honestly I'm looking for opinions so which would be your preference?

Any owners of either out there to comment?

tadaska · 03-04-2017, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ShadowmanVII

...as in go for the more modern designed 420d or the 320d is just as good? Honestly I'm looking for opinions so which would be your preference?

Any owners of either out there to comment?

Sorry, I was interrupted before I could write it all. I think the much more modern design of the F33 all the way. E93 looks a bit dated IMO.

ShadowmanVII · 03-04-2017, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tadaska

Sorry, I was interrupted before I could write it all. I think the much more modern design of the F33 all the way. E93 looks a bit dated IMO.

Yeah. I was thinking the exterior of the F33 looked meaner (like my F20 116) and the interior looks more 'digital' rather than on the E93. I like the blue the E93 has rather than the grey that the F33 has though.

I was just wondering what the consensus was about the extra £2,600. Is there 2.k worth of extra there or will I just be throwing money away?

Digitalize · 03-04-2017, 11:48 AM

If there was a 5k difference I could see there being a debate, but there's just not enough difference to consider the E93 personally.

CitizenKane · 03-04-2017, 11:56 AM

As someone who owns a 320d... I'd say go for a slightly older or lower spec 335d...

ShadowmanVII · 03-04-2017, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CitizenKane

As someone who owns a 320d... I'd say go for a slightly older or lower spec 335d...

Care to expand on that? I'd love to hear why

what plate is yours on and have you come across any problems with mechanical, electrical or folding roof?

CitizenKane · 03-04-2017, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowmanVII

Care to expand on that? I'd love to hear why

what plate is yours on and have you come across any problems with mechanical, electrical or folding roof?

Well I should say mine is an e92 (2013), but thought I'd give my input anyway as it's the same engine you're looking at with the e93. Not had any problems at all, but I have just been slightly underwhelmed by the power of it.

smuler · 03-04-2017, 01:58 PM

Test Drive them, because in my opinion (albeit based on coupe versions)the E9x generation is more fun to drive, car feels lighter with more steering feedback.

This plus the benefits of electric seats (I tend to make minor adjustments to seat positions on long drives) and saving money would steer me to the older car, assuming satisfaction with condition , service history etc.

I only use I Drive for navigation and the parking sensor graphic and from this perspective see the versions as equal.

No ones said it, but do you need a diesel? If you did go F generation, there's a 428 petrol. Economy is excellent plus performance and it's got to be quieter which must be nicer when roof down.

Adam1990 · 03-04-2017, 02:45 PM

I've been in/driven many bmw 2ltr diesels and probably wouldn't have a 2ltr drop top.

IMO they're a lot more sluggish due to the extra weight involved, so not as fun to drive.

However if you need it for economy then 20d would be very cheap to run fuel wise.

Jeff123 · 03-04-2017, 02:59 PM

If you buy the E9X model you will come to regret it; maybe not on month one, but certainly in the near future. The E90 is an old car now and is quite dated. Some models go back to 2005.

I would virtually always go for the newer model.

CitizenKane · 03-04-2017, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff123

If you buy the E9X model you will come to regret it; maybe not on month one, but certainly in the near future. The E90 is an old car now and is quite dated. Some models go back to 2005.

I would virtually always go for the newer model.

I agree with this (again as someone who has a late LCI e92 320d). At the time I was also torn between an e92 or an f32, but in hindsight I kind of wish I went for either an f32 320d or an e92 with a bit more power (e.g. a 335d), which I could've gotten for only a little extra.

YH10 · 03-04-2017, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff123

If you buy the E9X model you will come to regret it; maybe not on month one, but certainly in the near future. The E90 is an old car now and is quite dated. Some models go back to 2005.

I would virtually always go for the newer model.

I agree a lot with what has been said. There isn't a good enough reason to be going for a e93 in your case.

I went from a f generation 320d on lease to purchasing a auc 335i 2011..

Given the age of the e92 I would still have this car, probably mainly due to the engine.

ShadowmanVII · 03-05-2017, 02:07 AM

Hey Guys.

Thanks for everyone's feedback, I thought it'd be more of a 50/50 split but the F33 seems to be the better option. I'll see if I can negotiate a discount from the £23,490 to soften the blow a little.

I'll keep you guys posted of the outcome.

03-04-2017, 10:48 AM	#1
ShadowmanVII New Member 3 Rep 25 Posts Drives: BMW 220d M Sport Plus Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Plymouth iTrader: (0)	Torn. Please help a Newbie. Hey Guys & Girls. I'm a long time reader and 1st time poster. So Hi I really need your help please. I am trading my 116i M Sport Plus for either a E93 or F33 Convertible. I'm posting a duplicate thread on the F33 section of the forum too just to get both sides of the story. I've done as much research as I can but I'm still unable to decide. The E93 I've seen is cheaper by £2,640 and has more kit but the F33 looks nicer and has more modern kit. If people are interested here is the full list of kit on the E93; - Folding Mirrors - Media Package Pro - Sat Nav Pro - Enhance Bluetooth (USB & Voice) - DAB Radio - USB Audio - Cruise Control - Park Distance Control (rear only) - Headlight wash - Rain & light sensor - Xenon Headlights - Heated Seats - Auto Dimming Rear View Mirror - Automatic Air Con - Extended Interior Light Pack - Electric Front Seats Whereas the F33 has all of that (minus Electric Front Seats) and the Cruise Control has the brake function (don't think the E93 has the brake function) plus; - Heated Steering Wheel - Extended Storage - Through Load System - Wind Deflector - Air Collar - Full Black Panel Display - Comfort Pack They both have less than 20k on the clock and both are 2014 models, both manual and both have 2l Diesel engines (for economy). The F33 is £23,490 and the E93 is £20,850 but I was hoping people could let me in on how their particular vehicle is working out for them, problems, running costs, ect. Thanks a lot Guys and Girls. I hope to hear from you soon
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Digitalize Photographer 413 Rep 2,643 Posts Drives: 320D Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Electric front seats can either be pointless or a God send, depending on if two different people drive the car or not. I'm assuming by electric they're also memory? If not I'd ignore them and go for the F33, but if they are and you regularly have two people driving it I'd consider the E93 just for that convenience.
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03-04-2017, 11:06 AM	#3
ShadowmanVII New Member 3 Rep 25 Posts Drives: BMW 220d M Sport Plus Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Plymouth iTrader: (0)	Seats Yeah they are memory and my wife likes her 116i Sport but she'll need to use my every so often as I travel with work (out the country) a few times a year for semi lengthy periods so she'll use it maybe once a week to go to work and back.
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tadaska Major 114 Rep 1,002 Posts Drives: 2006 E90 320D ES Join Date: May 2016 Location: Eastbourne iTrader: (0)	Only £2.6k difference? Looks like a no-brainer to me
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Digitalize Photographer 413 Rep 2,643 Posts Drives: 320D Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	At maybe once a week I'd probably not be worried about memory seats then and just go for the F33. It will have a newer Diesel engine that's better on fuel, the newer better iDrive system, and it will just look and feel newer.
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Digitalize Photographer 413 Rep 2,643 Posts Drives: 320D Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	If there was a 5k difference I could see there being a debate, but there's just not enough difference to consider the E93 personally.
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CitizenKane Lieutenant 137 Rep 413 Posts Drives: 2018 F82 M4 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Ireland iTrader: (0)	As someone who owns a 320d... I'd say go for a slightly older or lower spec 335d...
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smuler First Lieutenant 51 Rep 306 Posts Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Wales iTrader: (0)	Test Drive them, because in my opinion (albeit based on coupe versions)the E9x generation is more fun to drive, car feels lighter with more steering feedback. This plus the benefits of electric seats (I tend to make minor adjustments to seat positions on long drives) and saving money would steer me to the older car, assuming satisfaction with condition , service history etc. I only use I Drive for navigation and the parking sensor graphic and from this perspective see the versions as equal. No ones said it, but do you need a diesel? If you did go F generation, there's a 428 petrol. Economy is excellent plus performance and it's got to be quieter which must be nicer when roof down.
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Adam1990 Private First Class 34 Rep 168 Posts Drives: E91 330I Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: West sussex iTrader: (0)	I've been in/driven many bmw 2ltr diesels and probably wouldn't have a 2ltr drop top. IMO they're a lot more sluggish due to the extra weight involved, so not as fun to drive. However if you need it for economy then 20d would be very cheap to run fuel wise.
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Jeff123 Jeff 319 Rep 1,451 Posts Drives: 330d M Sport x-drive F30 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Yorkshire iTrader: (0)	If you buy the E9X model you will come to regret it; maybe not on month one, but certainly in the near future. The E90 is an old car now and is quite dated. Some models go back to 2005. I would virtually always go for the newer model.
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ShadowmanVII New Member 3 Rep 25 Posts Drives: BMW 220d M Sport Plus Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Plymouth iTrader: (0)	Hey Guys. Thanks for everyone's feedback, I thought it'd be more of a 50/50 split but the F33 seems to be the better option. I'll see if I can negotiate a discount from the £23,490 to soften the blow a little. I'll keep you guys posted of the outcome.
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