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      04-25-2017, 11:22 AM   #1
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Supercharger On 3 Stage N52?

is this even possible? can you install a supercharger on a 3 stage equipped n52?
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      04-25-2017, 11:27 AM   #2
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Still would be slower than a n54/n55 but this is better asked in the n52 section. If you really want to have a fun car to drive then why not buy somthing for the weekend and keep the 5 series as a daily? You could probably buy a miata or 350z for not much more than the supercharger

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      04-25-2017, 11:41 AM   #3
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Still would be slower than a n54/n55 but this is better asked in the n52 section. If you really want to have a fun car to drive then why not buy somthing for the weekend and keep the 5 series as a daily? You could probably buy a miata or 350z for not much more than the supercharger
lol thats true I may just end up doing that.

but I really want that modded inline 6 the main goal for me is to have that unique great sounding naturally aspirated 6, even thought I wont be any faster then a 335i and I wasted alot of money I will be enjoying myself just as much. I think I can get close to 280HP and 240 torque to the crank with catless headers and an ECU tune because I already have a 3 stage manifold from the factory.

but you are right. I am thinking of looking into an rx8.
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      04-25-2017, 12:42 PM   #4
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By 3 stage you mean intake / headers / tune combo right


That alone would get you in the 270-290 crank hp on the higher end if you have an exhaust system , and other small mods.

Now as far as i know the ess supercharger does not work the aa headers or any other after market headers.
Ess is not able to come out with the proper tune so they just stopped trying and flat out said you have to remove the headers to get their supercharger to work properly


Ess supercharger stage 2 should get you to around stock 335 . I believe they dynoed at 285 whp . And that was on the stage 1 if i remember correctly. With their stage 2 you should be above 335 power by a bid.

Although you could always pick up a second fun car for 10k . Like someone said 350 and even 370 are around that prize. As well as early models 335
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By 3 stage you mean intake / headers / tune combo right


That alone would get you in the 270-290 crank hp on the higher end if you have an exhaust system , and other small mods.

Now as far as i know the ess supercharger does not work the aa headers or any other after market headers.
Ess is not able to come out with the proper tune so they just stopped trying and flat out said you have to remove the headers to get their supercharger to work properly


Ess supercharger stage 2 should get you to around stock 335 . I believe they dynoed at 285 whp . And that was on the stage 1 if i remember correctly. With their stage 2 you should be above 335 power by a bid.

Although you could always pick up a second fun car for 10k . Like someone said 350 and even 370 are around that prize. As well as early models 335
by 3 stage I meant 3 stage intake manifold which was included on the 2006 330i.

apparently a supercharger does not work with the 3 stage manifold. and it doesnt work with headers either??? fuck it, I will just get catless headers and eventually buy a little weekend toy.
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      04-25-2017, 01:37 PM   #6
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why are you asking questions? no one on this forum knows as much as you do. you have over 2400 posts since November, I think that means you are a bmw master tech now.
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It would probably be easier/cheaper to just buy an older 335i instead of supercharging an N52 and getting it to run correctly.
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      04-25-2017, 06:10 PM   #10
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It would probably be easier/cheaper to just buy an older 335i instead of supercharging an N52 and getting it to run correctly.
Agree. I know it sounds sad, but unfortunately this is true.

Even BPC themselves gave up and said that it can't be done with reasonable money. Last price point they were at was around $10k and they still couldn't do it. They still required other parts to be upgraded and it ended up not feasible for mass market

Now that BPC Turbo kit is out, all we have is Supercharger, but there are many Cons:
1. It's still expensive $5k + install
2. Even after all is said and done - you can still have issues (heck even ESS car is still plagued with rough idle and some other issues)
3. Arguably gains are low and some have showed that on lower rpms SC is even robbing the power instead of adding. You are arguably getting around 20-70hp max, but no one actually dyno to prove it. That 70hp at max rpms 7000 is basically a joke. That is a 50whp at the wheels at max rpms - assuming everything else is working ideally. In real life scenario when driving in under 5500 rpm - you will be lucky to even get 15-35hp lol

Bottom line is - that's why SC is not popular. However, ESS is starting to make some threads about it now, when they saw BPC fall short on their Turbo kit. They probably have unsold stock that they are desperate to get rid of

Selling a 328 and adding same $5k will get you a 335 that will have 306hp stock (and bigger brakes and rotors, beter stronger tranny) and then you can get it up to 500hp with only $1.5k - now that is a real gain if you ask me

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Supercharged is not considered naturally aspirated
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This is the same guy who told people to get coilovers then recommends lowering springs.

Then he got called out on it and he says spring and quality shocks/struts are the same thing as coilovers.

LOL. Never forget.
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This is the same guy who told people to get coilovers then recommends lowering springs.

Then he got called out on it and he says spring and quality shocks/struts are the same thing as coilovers.

LOL. Never forget.
Oh I remember him, I think he was under different name, he was called out on lots of BS and changed his name. Not fooling anyone lol. His name is telling. He always jumps on anything related to oil - he has a thing about oil brand he thinks is the only good choice lol and bashes anyone who uses different brand oil He also attacks any user who has x-drive or automatic transmission

His posts are sometimes reasonable, but often are so twisted minded that you often wonder if it's a kid writing all his posts or just an idiot adult LOL
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He's close to 300 hp, that supercharger only adds 30ish horsepower? That sucks I thought it would get you to around 350-400.

If you want some power out of that N52 just add a wet nitrous system with a switch that engages only under WOT.

But your tranny is going to take a poop. My dream machine is a 325i with carbon fiber m3 front and rear fenders bumpers, doors, hood, roof, all interior plastic redone in carbon fiber by making molds and wrapped in leather with sound deadening as well, and a Buick 215 V8 stroked to 5.0 with forged internals and a supercharger. And of course m3 everything suspension wise, with giant Porsche brakes. And of course same auto transmission but every part 3d laser scanned and cnc'd out of forged materials. So I can torque brake because I love doing that. That's what I will do if I wins the lotto.
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He's close to 300 hp, that supercharger only adds 30ish horsepower? That sucks I thought it would get you to around 350-400.

If you want some power out of that N52 just add a wet nitrous system with a switch that engages only under WOT.

But your tranny is going to take a poop. My dream machine is a 325i with carbon fiber m3 front and rear fenders bumpers, doors, hood, roof, all interior plastic redone in carbon fiber by making molds and wrapped in leather with sound deadening as well, and a Buick 215 V8 stroked to 5.0 with forged internals and a supercharger. And of course m3 everything suspension wise, with giant Porsche brakes. And of course same auto transmission but every part 3d laser scanned and cnc'd out of forged materials. So I can torque brake because I love doing that. That's what I will do if I wins the lotto.
What are you smoking man? Share some
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All this guy does is regurgitate people's past posts in this forum and tries to sound like he knows what he's talking about. He will never have a fast car and is too stubborn and stupid to take the advice to get a cheap 335 or 535. He's beaten the N52 engine and drivetrain sub forum to death with his posts. Someone please ban him so we can get back to normal around here.
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it's possible with a 3 stage manifold but not on your car -because nobody can tune MSV90.
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What are you smoking man? Share some
LMAO ikr, hey we all have dreams just like op. But these 325i's are dream crushers lol.
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lol thats true I may just end up doing that.

but I really want that modded inline 6 the main goal for me is to have that unique great sounding naturally aspirated 6, even thought I wont be any faster then a 335i and I wasted alot of money I will be enjoying myself just as much. I think I can get close to 280HP and 240 torque to the crank with catless headers and an ECU tune because I already have a 3 stage manifold from the factory.

but you are right. I am thinking of looking into an rx8.
Pick up an IS300, or a 2Jz supra for that modded inline six feel, have had them before and can confirm, much fun!
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Since when is the rx8 inline6?
Thought it has that rotary junk in it.........
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Since when is the rx8 inline6?
Thought it has that rotary junk in it.........
rotaries are NOT junk if you maintain them properly. they are not like a piston engine and require completely different maintenance. most of them fail from carbon build up because you have to redline the shit out of it AT LEAST once a day to keep things clean. the fuel economy is shit especially since you have to rev the shit out of it, but the engine is incredibly smooth and makes good torque in the high end. in all honesty it revs smoother then a straight 6 but it wont be at reliable or produce that insane torque down low... the rx-8 is nimble and designed to be cornered and redlined on every street which is exactly what I want. If i can find a low mileage one that would be such a sweet addition to my garage

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RX8

Turbo 3+ Rotor RX7
love them all man. I want something light and nimble. should have went with a 335i its still heavy but the perfect compromise between luxury and sport compared to the f10.
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