Base 911 - anyone ever ordered one?

[Habber]

I'm wondering if anyone has ever ordered a base 911 (or close to it)? Reason why I'm asking is that I find that once options are added, the price just skyrockets (typical Porsche) and the bang for buck quickly disappears.

Anyone comment on a base Carrera 7MT?

[kerm1t]

its not just the porches. its bmws too

[Arcades]

Porsche's are far worse when it comes to how quick it adds up.

W/ BMW you can at least avoid some of the options. Granted it's shoved together most of the time but you can avoid it.

Porsche, literally everything is an option. That is very bad because before you know it... BOOM +20k.

[FirstF80InSpace]

They call it a Porsche tax for a reason. In fact, any German luxury brand will nickel and dime you on options.

The best bang for the buck is Lexus or Acura. But they are boring IMO.

[Darth One]

I've found that Porsche dealers like to stock a single 'stripper' unit to draw in the traffic. You can do some searches sorted by price to see if anyone near you still has theirs. Test drive it and if you like, you could even buy it on the spot

Hertz also rents the base 911 if you're willing to spend coin for a really extensive test drive. My main experience with a base 991.2 was renting one and bombing around PCH and the Carmel Highlands

The base 911 is a fantastic sports car that has everything you need. Porsche, like its peers, likes to suck you in with the shiny options, deviated color this, and how about a little better performance/bragging rights by adding pccb this and ptv that. But if you have a lot of self control you can get an amazing sports car.

However! You can also look into the Carrera T, which offers a unique look and some of the most desired 'enthusiast options' in a discounted package

[mkoesel]

Might be worthwhile to see what the 992 has to offer when it is revealed later this year. It would give you a chance to compare value and potentially result in better deals on the outgoing 991.

For the 992, I'd guess horsepower will be at or near 400hp while starting MSRP will probably inch even closer to (though I suspect not over) $100k. Of course there will be all sorts of other changes (such as the digital dash) some of which will be widely praised and some of which may not.

[996ttelise]

Originally Posted by Habber

I'm wondering if anyone has ever ordered a base 911 (or close to it)? Reason why I'm asking is that I find that once options are added, the price just skyrockets (typical Porsche) and the bang for buck quickly disappears.

Anyone comment on a base Carrera 7MT?

You can certainly order one stripped down, but it is very possible to find them with minimal options. Go to the Porsche search website or just do a new search on cars.com, car gururs, autotrader and etc. and arrange by price. Sonic stores tend to stock a few lower priced models as well as they have a huge allocation and can afford to order cars with lower options unlike smaller stores with fewer 911 allocations.

[spuntyb]

Base Carrera is still a great car, but I agree, it's awfully tempting to go big. Honestly though, beyond PASM and Sport Chrono, and maybe PTV, you don't really need much.

Have you considered the 997.2 cars? You could get into a well-optioned C4S or GTS for far less than a new 991 Carrera. That's what I was going to do until we found out we were pregnant with another kid (which is why I picked up the F80).

Good luck!

[quattr0]

Originally Posted by Habber

I'm wondering if anyone has ever ordered a base 911 (or close to it)? Reason why I'm asking is that I find that once options are added, the price just skyrockets (typical Porsche) and the bang for buck quickly disappears.

Anyone comment on a base Carrera 7MT?

best bang for the buck is to get a used one. Plenty for high/low 80k's.

I have a '17 C2 manual. If I could do it again, I would get the T.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by Arcades

W/ BMW you can at least avoid some of the options. Granted it's shoved together most of the time but you can avoid it.

Porsche, literally everything is an option. That is very bad because before you know it... BOOM +20k.

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you wrote. But wouldn't the fact Porsche is completely a-la-carte, mean you can avoid every option you don't want. BMW does seem to group crucial options with other options I want nothing to do with.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by quattr0

best bang for the buck is to get a used one. Plenty for high/low 80k's.

I have a '17 C2 manual. If I could do it again, I would get the T.

Are T allocations easy to come by? How are dealers treating them, markups?

[FirstF80InSpace]

Problem with getting a base Carrera is that you will regret not getting options such as PASM, PSE, Sport Chrono, etc, down the road.

When I ordered my F80, I skipped ZCP because I didn't want to spend the extra cash. Totally wish I had it now.

[quattr0]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

Are T allocations easy to come by? How are dealers treating them, markups?

I believe every dealership has a number of allocation for each model, not just T. From what I've read so far it is not as hard as like getting GT3. I have couple folks on the other forum waiting on theirs. I could check for you.

[quattr0]

Originally Posted by FirstF80InSpace

Problem with getting a base Carrera is that you will regret not getting options such as PASM, PSE, Sport Chrono, etc, down the road.

When I ordered my F80, I skipped ZCP because I didn't want to spend the extra cash. Totally wish I had it now.

Now I'm confused with OP's post...base i.e. no options or base as the base model (not S, not GTS).

The base model 911 Carrera does have PASM as standard, Sport Chrono as an option if you want to add. There is also S-PASM that comes with the S and higher models.

The T is a lighter base model that would allow to add RWS and shorter gear ratios transmission.

Things that I could live without

1. Full leather
2. Bose (my wife MDX speakers sound better than Bose in 911)
3. PSE (after market will sound much better)
4. Maybe Sport Chrono (adaptive engine mount, different throttle modes selection: sport, sport+, etc. and the useless clock)
5. 18-way seats (I think 4-way is more than enough)

[Funf6cyl]

I have a 2017 991.2 Carrera S and sometimes I wish I had gone with a base over the S. The base is plenty fast for the street and makes a great track car as well.

[summilux]

Before I ordered my F80 this spring I spent a lot of time looking into 911 GTS vs base. It's really hard NOT to option up even a little. And I'm not just talking about performance options but things like rear wipers, dimming mirrors and a sound system that doesn't sound like absolute crap. When I was virtual building my low spec 911 base. I think the cheapest I ever got was $115K. I also looked for low spec 6MT cars but nothing came up. In the end I decided if I was going down the 911 route I was going to spend more and do a decently optioned GTS.

Another thing to consider is whether or not your dealer can get a base allocation. In Feb of this year I was told by a Montreal dealer I could order a GTS right away for May 2018 delivery but a base order wouldn't happen till late fall for 2019 delivery. I'm not sure whether this was a trick to put me into a GTS over a base but you should talk to a dealer about it. The new 992 comes in 2019 so a base might be hard to secure a spot for.

[Habber]

Originally Posted by summilux

Before I ordered my F80 this spring I spent a lot of time looking into 911 GTS vs base. It's really hard NOT to option up even a little. And I'm not just talking about performance options but things like rear wipers, dimming mirrors and a sound system that doesn't sound like absolute crap. When I was virtual building my low spec 911 base. I think the cheapest I ever got was $115K. I also looked for low spec 6MT cars but nothing came up. In the end I decided if I was going down the 911 route I was going to spend more and do a decently optioned GTS.

Another thing to consider is whether or not your dealer can get a base allocation. In Feb of this year I was told by a Montreal dealer I could order a GTS right away for May 2018 delivery but a base order wouldn't happen till late fall for 2019 delivery. I'm not sure whether this was a trick to put me into a GTS over a base but you should talk to a dealer about it. The new 992 comes in 2019 so a base might be hard to secure a spot for.

Thanks for answering. It sounds a bit like a sales tactic to push you into a GTS but who knows.

[Habber]

Originally Posted by quattr0

Now I'm confused with OP's post...base i.e. no options or base as the base model (not S, not GTS).

The base model 911 Carrera does have PASM as standard, Sport Chrono as an option if you want to add. There is also S-PASM that comes with the S and higher models.

The T is a lighter base model that would allow to add RWS and shorter gear ratios transmission.

Things that I could live without

1. Full leather
2. Bose (my wife MDX speakers sound better than Bose in 911)
3. PSE (after market will sound much better)
4. Maybe Sport Chrono (adaptive engine mount, different throttle modes selection: sport, sport+, etc. and the useless clock)

I meant base carerra with almost no options. I've never seen one and personally, I feel
like the best value is ordering this car with the fewest amount of options.

[quattr0]

Originally Posted by quattr0

I believe every dealership has a number of allocation for each model, not just T. From what I've read so far it is not as hard as like getting GT3. I have couple folks on the other forum waiting on theirs. I could check for you.

Well, I'll take that back. Looks like it's hard to locate one even though I saw couple on-sale on cargurus.

Here's the thread...

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/1060...s-club-11.html

[quattr0]

Originally Posted by Habber

I meant base carerra with almost no options. I've never seen one and personally, I feel
like the best value is ordering this car with the fewest amount of options.

If you're not going to sell it later then yes, I agree, the least option.

I wanted a manual, and it already comes w things I listed above so I didn't have a choice as I didn't want to wait...

Just also realize you're in Canada so it will be much more...Good luck!

[Funf6cyl]

Originally Posted by summilux

Before I ordered my F80 this spring I spent a lot of time looking into 911 GTS vs base. It's really hard NOT to option up even a little. And I'm not just talking about performance options but things like rear wipers, dimming mirrors and a sound system that doesn't sound like absolute crap. When I was virtual building my low spec 911 base. I think the cheapest I ever got was $115K. I also looked for low spec 6MT cars but nothing came up. In the end I decided if I was going down the 911 route I was going to spend more and do a decently optioned GTS.

Another thing to consider is whether or not your dealer can get a base allocation. In Feb of this year I was told by a Montreal dealer I could order a GTS right away for May 2018 delivery but a base order wouldn't happen till late fall for 2019 delivery. I'm not sure whether this was a trick to put me into a GTS over a base but you should talk to a dealer about it. The new 992 comes in 2019 so a base might be hard to secure a spot for.

Allocations for all 911s have dried up. Porsche is pushing units to Europe before the new CAFE standards take place I’m told. Plus, they are closing for Euro holiday July to mid Aug.

[nicknaz]

If you can get a GT allocation, you can just order the LWB seats and be done with it

With any new 911 or other euro sports car purchase it's never going to "make sense". You get what you want because you can