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      05-19-2020, 05:46 PM   #1
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Who would you choose for a custom tune?

I will be in the market for a custom tune here in the next few weeks if all goes as planned. My question is, who would you choose to go through and why? Links to results would be nice. I will be looking to max out the stock turbo on E85, just a simple bolt on setup. I will not be on the stock fuel system, as I am aware of it's limitations.

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I will be in the market for a customer tune here in the next few weeks if all goes as planned. My question is, who would you choose to go through and why? Links to results would be nice. I will be looking to max out the stock turbo on E85, just a simple bolt on setup. I will not be on the stock fuel system, as I am aware of it's limitations.
im curious myself. problem is most people with custom tunes arent very forthcoming with info.

im in the same boat and seriously thinking of going full e85. the two pumps i use, i tested at e80.
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I gave up with Tuner A after 48 revisions. Tuner B is now at revision 30 (ongoing) and Tuner C is on revision 10 (after a few test maps - ongoing).

I have had NO mechanical defects to slow down the progress but my car is PWG.

Would recommend you NOT to go with one of the "famous" forum tuners and find a local that can help out. You being EWG and stock turbo makes it a lot easier though.
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im curious myself. problem is most people with custom tunes arent very forthcoming with info.

im in the same boat and seriously thinking of going full e85. the two pumps i use, i tested at e80.
I wonder why so secretive lol.

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I gave up with Tuner A after 48 revisions. Tuner B is now at revision 30 (ongoing) and Tuner C is on revision 10 (after a few test maps - ongoing).

I have had NO mechanical defects to slow down the progress but my car is PWG.

Would recommend you NOT to go with one of the "famous" forum tuners and find a local that can help out. You being EWG and stock turbo makes it a lot easier though.
Could you PM who you've used?

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I wonder why so secretive lol.
I have seen people specifically post that their tuners forbid them from posting logs, etc, on the forums. I think its sort of a "trade secret" mentality.
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I've used Pureboost out of Germany for my custom tune.

Quick response time for each revision. Turn around time of 12hrs after I send data logs. Pricing is similar to other vendors but if you ever need an additional tune, its significantly cheaper compared to other tuners.

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My tuner has never restricted me or ask to not post logs.

Link to my post showing the progression of my custom tune

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1692788
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I've used Pureboost out of Germany for my custom tune.

Quick response time for each revision. Turn around time of 12hrs after I send data logs. Pricing is similar to other vendors but if you ever need an additional tune, its significantly cheaper compared to other tuners.
I believe Fabian at Pureboost is one of the tuners for MHD OTS maps as well.
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I believe Fabian at Pureboost is one of the tuners for MHD OTS maps as well.
Yes Fabian does the OTS maps for MHD and worked with him for my custom tune
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I have seen people specifically post that their tuners forbid them from posting logs, etc, on the forums. I think its sort of a "trade secret" mentality.
I'm not asking for logs, I am looking for dyno #'s or track times.

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I've used Pureboost out of Germany for my custom tune.

Quick response time for each revision. Turn around time of 12hrs after I send data logs. Pricing is similar to other vendors but if you ever need an additional tune, its significantly cheaper compared to other tuners.

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My tuner has never restricted me or ask to not post logs.

Link to my post showing the progression of my custom tune

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1692788
Thanks, and see above.
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I'm not asking for logs, I am looking for dyno #'s or track times.



Thanks, and see above.
Sadly with this pandemic still in effect I have not been able to dyno my car yet!!

But I'd safely assume I'm around 475-500whp.

Best advice I could offer is to not get caught up chasing numbers. Figure out what the purpose of your build will focus on and go from there.

What good is dyno if all dynos will generate different numbers. What good are track times if you have a highly skilled driver under perfect weather conditions but his car needs new tires. There are too many variables to consider when analyzing other people's success with the f30 platform.
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Best advice I could offer is to not get caught up chasing numbers. Figure out what the purpose of your build will focus on and go from there.

What good is dyno if all dynos will generate different numbers. What good are track times if you have a highly skilled driver under perfect weather conditions but his car needs new tires. There are too many variables to consider when analyzing other people's success with the f30 platform.
+100 for this. I keep saying this everytime someone asks about "how much power does ____ make?" "can i make xxx HP with ____ mods/tune?"
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Sadly with this pandemic still in effect I have not been able to dyno my car yet!!

But I'd safely assume I'm around 475-500whp.

Best advice I could offer is to not get caught up chasing numbers. Figure out what the purpose of your build will focus on and go from there.

What good is dyno if all dynos will generate different numbers. What good are track times if you have a highly skilled driver under perfect weather conditions but his car needs new tires. There are too many variables to consider when analyzing other people's success with the f30 platform.
Because the more information that there is, the better off the community would be. Progression comes from knowledge and knowing the limits. What if everyone had the mentality of don't be worried about the numbers and agreed that the stg1 tune was the limit? Zero advancements
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Because the more information that there is, the better off the community would be. Progression comes from knowledge and knowing the limits. What if everyone had the mentality of don't be worried about the numbers and agreed that the stg1 tune was the limit? Zero advancements
Agreed having information is vital for other member's to learn from and reference when they start an f30 build. Not many people are willing to push there $20,30,40k. Most just want either reliable performance with stock or upgraded turbo or max power out of stock or upgraded turbo.
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Because the more information that there is, the better off the community would be. Progression comes from knowledge and knowing the limits. What if everyone had the mentality of don't be worried about the numbers and agreed that the stg1 tune was the limit? Zero advancements
I agree with the more information statement, but dyno numbers arent really providing any insight into the limits of the hardware... there's too much variability between dynos, and even drag strip times from other external factors. Just because someone made XXX HP doesnt mean you can make that much power on the same hardware setup... what if they were on a dynojet and you go onto a mustang dyno and end up pushing your hardware too far trying to achieve said number just because you thought it was possible based on their dyno result? It doesn't make sense...

The forum is indeed a place to share knowledge for the advancement of the platform but there's just too many posts about people chasing dyno #'s; that's all we are saying. They arent really useful, unless you are specifically talking about the same person doing dyno runs back to back to test something.

Bottom line someone's dyno number shouldnt really a basis for you making a decision.
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I will be in the market for a custom tune here in the next few weeks if all goes as planned. My question is, who would you choose to go through and why? Links to results would be nice. I will be looking to max out the stock turbo on E85, just a simple bolt on setup. I will not be on the stock fuel system, as I am aware of it's limitations.
+1. I'm also in search of a custom tuner.
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I wonder why so secretive lol.



Could you PM who you've used?



Why? Any success stories or examples?
2nd on this. I'd love to hear your input and would like to know who you used . I too have used someone on this forum with minimal results. Not too happy about the end result. In search of someone who is solid and attentive to customer inquiries and making them feel like they paid for what they got (if that's so much to ask for).
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Can make a fake 700whp dyno chart for you if the numbers is what you care about...?

I think you greatly underestimate the importance of drivability. A car that runs without hiccups or hesitation, shifts smoothly, has a smooth power curve etc etc. These are not a given with any tuner.

I would recommend you to go with TruePower from Germany. His name is Dennis and he has impressed me the most.

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Can make a fake 700whp dyno chart for you if the numbers is what you care about...?

I think you greatly underestimate the importance of drivability. A car that runs without hiccups or hesitation, shifts smoothly, has a smooth power curve etc etc. These are not a given with any tuner.

I would recommend you to go with TruePower from Germany. His name is Dennis and he has impressed me the most.

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You’re talking a lot about a car you don’t own and haven’t driven - but shill for a tuner with no results to speak of. For the record, the owner commented on the post how pleased he was with his car - I too have a tune and I’m extremely happy with it.

But tell me more about fake dynos and drivability.
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I will be in the market for a custom tune here in the next few weeks if all goes as planned. My question is, who would you choose to go through and why? Links to results would be nice. I will be looking to max out the stock turbo on E85, just a simple bolt on setup. I will not be on the stock fuel system, as I am aware of it's limitations.
I went with Cary Jordan. A lot of people have used him on this forum. He has a lot of experience with getting cars to run full E85, though usually S55 cars.

I can only speak to my experience with him, which was great. Revisions would usually be provided the same day I uploaded logs. He took time to make the maps perfect.

I think we went through 12-15 revisions before I took it to my local shop for dyno tuning. I changed multiple fueling parts tying to get the car completely dialed in on full E85 which took additional revisions. I left my car at the shop for a few days while on a business trip. Checking the BM3 app, I was able to see my shop and Cary did almost 20 revisions and worked on the car on 3 separate days for WELL over the 2 hours included with the tune.

Very happy with the service and the results. My car made over 550awhp on a mustang dyno. This shop is reputable and made the first 9 second F80 a few years ago.
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I went with Cary Jordan. A lot of people have used him on this forum. He has a lot of experience with getting cars to run full E85, though usually S55 cars.

I can only speak to my experience with him, which was great. Revisions would usually be provided the same day I uploaded logs. He took time to make the maps perfect.

I think we went through 12-15 revisions before I took it to my local shop for dyno tuning. I changed multiple fueling parts tying to get the car completely dialed in on full E85 which took additional revisions. I left my car at the shop for a few days while on a business trip. Checking the BM3 app, I was able to see my shop and Cary did almost 20 revisions and worked on the car on 3 separate days for WELL over the 2 hours included with the tune.

Very happy with the service and the results. My car made over 550awhp on a mustang dyno. This shop is reputable and made the first 9 second F80 a few years ago.
What fueling parts did you need to upgrade for full E85?

Do you have any current logs to share?
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