[PP3121]

As we see more individuals with cars, there seem to be some common issues/glitches we are experiencing.

From the first 11 days of ownership:

1. While in Eco Pro Individual - from a complete stop, engine cuts out, when resume, the parking assist camera initiates, states that travel is in the wrong direction, and goes away in a few seconds. This has occurred several times in this setting only. Tried in Eco Pro, and I have not experienced the same thing happening.

This is concerning because the Stop Sale was directly related to the back-up camera. May not be completely resolved.

2. This may be more of a driving style/need to get used to it kind-of-situation: The brakes seem a little jerky. The car does not seem to come to a smooth stop. It tends to want to leap forward when it almost comes to a complete stop. Is it possibly that brakes need to be broken in? I have always prided myself on being a smooth driver. I seem to not be able to prevent this.

3. At times, the auto engine cut off does not initiate even when I want it to i.e., in Eco Mode. I don't necessarily use the feature, but I am checking functions to ensure they are working. I understand that driving style will impact this.

4. From the Phone, remote engine start ALWAYS fails the first time and has ALWAYS worked the second time... ALWAYS works when initiated with the key.

[Winrya]

Can’t comment ref my2023 sw issues as I have a 22 car but..

2. My brakes have only just stopped doing that after 2200 miles. My brakes have been progressively been getting stronger whilst they’ve bedded in. Took ages. Assume as I have the larger brakes they’re not doing a lot of work under normal conditions

3. Stop start only works under certain circumstances. Battery charge at a certain level, exterior and interior temperatures, whether heated seats are on etc all effect whether it will activate

[PP3121]

I was hoping that that was the case with the brakes as I recall reading about this way before taking delivery of the car.

This morning, point 1 above occurred again this time in Comfort mode - parking assist pops up while in "Drive" and goes away in a few seconds.

[TJZ67201]

Originally Posted by PP3121

I was hoping that that was the case with the brakes as I recall reading about this way before taking delivery of the car.

This morning, point 1 above occurred again this time in Comfort mode - parking assist pops up while in "Drive" and goes away in a few seconds.

You don't by chance have the cameras set to enable at a certain GPS location do you?

[PP3121]

No. I actually tried to set that up; however, the only "way point" I found was to have the windows roll down when arriving at a particular location. So, I never messed with those settings.

It will not hurt to go and check again. Thank you for pointing this out.

The camera has engaged at different locations.

[RockCrusher]

Regarding jerky brakes...

While I don't necessarily believe the jerky brake problem is because the brakes have not yet bedded in, I'll offer the following. Easy enough to try and see if it helps.

My SOP for a new vehicle is to do a brake bedding in procedure. While there are about as many of these as there are engine break in procedures, I have found over the years what works reasonably well is just do 3 slow downs from "high" speed. Nothing illegal just from a highway legal speed limit -- and when safe -- brake hard to slow the vehicle from speed to around 45mph. Not hard enough to trigger ABS or even cause tire noise.

As soon as the car slows to 45mph release the brake and accelerate promptly back up to speed then repeat the braking process. Then do this a 3rd time.

Did a 4th one once or twice but there was no braking improvement compared to the very noticeable improvement after the 1st and 2nd -- and to a way lesser extent -- the 3rd braking event.

After the last event be sure to drive the vehicle long enough to give the pretty hot brakes time to cool down.

Avoid bringing the car to a stop with hot brakes. This can result in pad material deposition on the rotors which can result in brake pulsing that can require rotor resurfacing or even replacement to eliminate.

While my 230i brakes are ok I might add my M-B van's brakes manifested an irregular braking action, a jerky braking action.

As the van slowed the brakes felt like the rotors were "warped" but they were not. Long story short I just assumed it was a characteristic of the van. The brakes were ok otherwise and slowed the van from speed very well and with no drama.

But the van was in recently for a scheduled service, with around 19K miles. This included a brake fluid flush/bleed. Afterwards the brakes were as smooth as could be. All jerkiness was gone.

The van was but just over 2 years old which based on my experience with other cars -- mostly German -- 2 years is at the time a brake fluid flush/bleed is called for but I was mildly surprised -- and more than mildly pleased -- the flush/bleed eliminated that annoying jerky braking behavior. Said behavior having been present since as long as I can could remember.

You might consider speaking to the service department about the brake behavior. It is not normal -- as was reinforced with my van experience. A brake fluid flush/bleed might help. If not then the cause for the jerkiness should be diagnosed.

[PP3121]

RockCrusher First of all, multiple "Appreciate" hits!!

I cannot ask for more! This is very specific and actionable.

I am definitely going to do this.

This may seem like a silly question: "be sure to drive the vehicle long enough to give the pretty hot brakes time to cool down" - How does one do this? Driving will still need to engage the brakes, right?

As far as the dealership, I have an appointment to bring the car in for a diagnostic this coming Saturday as there are a couple of other concerns.

[bobkat09]

I’m having trouble connecting my phone via Bluetooth. I know the phone is not the problem.

[PP3121]

Was it connected prior? I ask because I have had no issues until yesterday when the phone did not want to connect. It is set up to automatically connect and use Media from the phone.

The phone was showing connected status for calls and media; however, the vehicle would show a message that Media is not available.

[danallxt]

2. This may be more of a driving style/need to get used to it kind-of-situation: The brakes seem a little jerky. The car does not seem to come to a smooth stop. It tends to want to leap forward when it almost comes to a complete stop. Is it possibly that brakes need to be broken in? I have always prided myself on being a smooth driver. I seem to not be able to prevent this.

Definitely not normal, would for sure have a BMW service check it out. Plus your other gremlins are weird also.

Your question about brake "cooling off", that's needed only if you are really repeatedly hard on the brakes (ie track duty), the idea is to cool them a bit before you come to a complete stop....air movement while driving cools em....yup you may need to use the brakes while "cooling " them but as long as that brake application is not really aggressive you will be allowing them to cool from a very heated situation. 5 minutes or so at modest speed fine. Why cool em?...a stopped stationary vehicle with super hot brakes can result in a localized super heated spot that can warp rotors. Again we are talking really aggressive repeated braking here.

[bobkat09]

Originally Posted by PP3121

Was it connected prior? I ask because I have had no issues until yesterday when the phone did not want to connect. It is set up to automatically connect and use Media from the phone.

The phone was showing connected status for calls and media; however, the vehicle would show a message that Media is not available.

No
Never was able to connect

[PP3121]

After returning home, turning the car off, disconnecting the phone from the system, and restarting, phone connected again. Definitely not ideal if on a road trip to have to do this repeatedly.

So, you still have not been successful?

[PP3121]

Originally Posted by danallxt

Definitely not normal, would for sure have a BMW service check it out. Plus your other gremlins are weird also.

Your question about brake "cooling off", that's needed only if you are really repeatedly hard on the brakes (ie track duty), the idea is to cool them a bit before you come to a complete stop....air movement while driving cools em....yup you may need to use the brakes while "cooling " them but as long as that brake application is not really aggressive you will be allowing them to cool from a very heated situation. 5 minutes or so at modest speed fine. Why cool em?...a stopped stationary vehicle with super hot brakes can result in a localized super heated spot that can warp rotors. Again we are talking really aggressive repeated braking here.

Thank you for the "beginner's" explanation; what I needed.

Appointment with the diagnostic team later today. I have noticed the brakes seem to be better...psychological?

[bobkat09]

Originally Posted by PP3121

After returning home, turning the car off, disconnecting the phone from the system, and restarting, phone connected again. Definitely not ideal if on a road trip to have to do this repeatedly.

So, you still have not been successful?

Dealer told me to try a reset on the id8 system. To do that you need to hold the radio volume button in until the screen goes blank. Settings should not be affected. If that doesn’t work I need to bring the car in.

[PP3121]

Originally Posted by PP3121

As we see more individuals with cars, there seem to be some common issues/glitches we are experiencing.

From the first 11 days of ownership:

1. While in Eco Pro Individual - from a complete stop, engine cuts out, when resume, the parking assist camera initiates, states that travel is in the wrong direction, and goes away in a few seconds. This has occurred several times in this setting only. Tried in Eco Pro, and I have not experienced the same thing happening.

This is concerning because the Stop Sale was directly related to the back-up camera. May not be completely resolved.

2. This may be more of a driving style/need to get used to it kind-of-situation: The brakes seem a little jerky. The car does not seem to come to a smooth stop. It tends to want to leap forward when it almost comes to a complete stop. Is it possibly that brakes need to be broken in? I have always prided myself on being a smooth driver. I seem to not be able to prevent this.

3. At times, the auto engine cut off does not initiate even when I want it to i.e., in Eco Mode. I don't necessarily use the feature, but I am checking functions to ensure they are working. I understand that driving style will impact this.

4. From the Phone, remote engine start ALWAYS fails the first time and has ALWAYS worked the second time... ALWAYS works when initiated with the key.

Want to update some of these areas of concern:
1. Brought vehicle in for service to inspect the cameras and software for any possible issues. Nothing was found to be out of place, order, etc. Since so new, not much data available. The head of service met with me and discussed a few areas that may be causing the camera issues: The front plate bracket may be interfering with the sensors; flying debris may cause false readings; and could still be software although the latest is installed.

Since those initial days when this occurred multiple times, the camera has only "malfunctioned" a couple of times. They want me to record the screen to gather as much data as possible when this occurs. However, I do not have my phone out and at the ready every moment I am in the car; not realistic.

2. Brakes are much better and much smoother. I think combination of multiple factors. Getting use to them is a big one. Doing the recommended procedure outlined by @[RockCrusher] I think this also helped. Thank you.

3. Still does not work consistently. Shuts off sometimes and not other times. Not overly concerned here as there seems to be many factors. For example, if temp needs to activate, engine will not turn off.

4. Seems as if many have the same issue with remote engine start via the app. This still continues - usually never turns on with the first attempt; has always worked on the second when the first failed.

How are others coming along with their glitches/concerns?

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by PP3121

RockCrusher First of all, multiple "Appreciate" hits!!

I cannot ask for more! This is very specific and actionable.

I am definitely going to do this.

This may seem like a silly question: "be sure to drive the vehicle long enough to give the pretty hot brakes time to cool down" - How does one do this? Driving will still need to engage the brakes, right?

As far as the dealership, I have an appointment to bring the car in for a diagnostic this coming Saturday as there are a couple of other concerns.

Sorry to be so late with a follow up response.

To late to be of any use to you but for completeness...

Just normal driving should suffice. While you may need to use the brakes they'll still cool down as the bedding in procedure purposely limits the amount of cool down between brake applications by having you get the vehicle back up to speed ASAP then applying the brakes again.

Might add I usually do the bedding in on a highway where I can get the vehicle up to speed then slow the vehicle and repeat and do this safely and then afterwards drive a few miles without having to apply the brakes.

[DriftKing860]

There are times my auto shut off does not happen. Even after the auto breK engages. Not sure why.

Also about your sensors. I had to remaneuver my EOS tow hook LP mount. At first the sensors and auto parking cameras would engage when I stop. After moving the License plate I don't have the issue anymore.

[PP3121]

Originally Posted by DriftKing860

There are times my auto shut off does not happen. Even after the auto breK engages. Not sure why.

Also about your sensors. I had to remaneuver my EOS tow hook LP mount. At first the sensors and auto parking cameras would engage when I stop. After moving the License plate I don't have the issue anymore.

I have not experimented with removing the bracket to see, yet. The interference seems to have really stopped. If I get more false readings, I will remove the bracket and see if there is a difference.

TY.

[PNW_Sonics]

I've been experiencing the same brake issue you described in your original post. I've only got about 700 miles driven so far and will try the recommended procedure.

Also, has anyone experienced issues with the trunk release? I go to hit the button under the trunk lid (fob is in pocket) and about 50% of the time nothing will happen. I'm just standing there repeatedly hitting the button until the trunk finally opens or I get the fob out and hit the trunk release button.

[Invisiblename]

Originally Posted by PNW_Sonics

I've been experiencing the same brake issue you described in your original post. I've only got about 700 miles driven so far and will try the recommended procedure.

Also, has anyone experienced issues with the trunk release? I go to hit the button under the trunk lid (fob is in pocket) and about 50% of the time nothing will happen. I'm just standing there repeatedly hitting the button until the trunk finally opens or I get the fob out and hit the trunk release button.

What have you got the unlock settings set to? If you’ve selected ‘drivers door only’, then you have to either press unlock on the door switch, or on the fob to unlock the trunk (boot)

[Invisiblename]

Originally Posted by Winrya

Can’t comment ref my2023 sw issues as I have a 22 car but..

3. Stop start only works under certain circumstances. Battery charge at a certain level, exterior and interior temperatures, whether heated seats are on etc all effect whether it will activate

You won’t believe how complex the latest Stop / Start is on the latest BMWs!

Although the link takes you to an X3 article, it is just as relevant to the 2 series; read from page 20 onwards - it’ll blow your mind!

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/attac...1&d=1550590497

[PP3121]

Originally Posted by Invisiblename

You won’t believe how complex the latest Stop / Start is on the latest BMWs!

Although the link takes you to an X3 article, it is just as relevant to the 2 series; read from page 20 onwards - it’ll blow your mind!

https://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/attac...1&d=1550590497

Very interesting to read the specs. I have a better understanding of the parameters for the Start-Stop function. However, there are instances that occur mentioned when the engine does turn off and should not according to the write up. Good example are residential crossings - stops engine at times; does not at other times.

Overall, the tech is incredible.

Thanks for the technical information.