[RockCrusher]

Really starting to want a 240i with a 6-speed manual.

Have informally talked to the local dealer. Was told it has no allocation. (I bought the one and only 230i it received and I bought it a day after it arrived at the dealer's lot.)

Was told it could place an order for a 240i and it might be granted an allocation but to submit an order would require me to provide a $1000 *non-refundable* deposit.

I can't help but balk at that non-refundable deposit. I have not put orders in for 240is at other dealers.

I did point out I would option the car sanely so it would not be some ungodly freak of a car that the dealer couldn't even give a way.

Looking to order a 240i rear wheel drive 6-speed no sun/moon roof and with all standard options. Oh color would be Portimao blue metalic. My 230i is Brooklyn Grey and that's a nice color but I feel like another blue car.

I would of course accept the car when it arrived provided it came as ordered and had no signs of any issues and the dealer would honor the price we "agreed" upon before I placed my order. The trade in value of the 230i would of course be determined when the 240i was at the dealer.

Barring the dealer trying to lowball me on the trade in value the deal would go down. Oh, I'd write a personal check for the balance check drawn on a bank in the same town as the dealer. Did this before when I bought the 230i and there were no issues.

I've never ordered a car before. I'm a buy off the lot type of car buyer. But on the lot 240is are as best I can tell simply not available.

My SOP is to avoid putting any deposit down. In fact I'm currently on my way to CO buy another new car (not a BMW) with no deposit down. Dealer wanted one but I said if I get there and the car's gone I'll just go to the next dealer on my list which has a car I want.

Oh, it occurs to me maybe I need to sit down at the dealer and talk in a more serious manner about my wanting to order the car and possibly work out some acceptable deposit?

And I guess I need to check the consumer laws where I live to see if a dealer can actually require and execute a non refundable deposit.

But I'm facing a few more days on the road before I get home. And in the meantime I was wondering if anyone who's gone through a 240i order could offer some advice on how to deal with this non-refundable deposit request?

[Tag]

1. G42 2 Series doesn't offer a MT
2. You're in the G87 M2 forum, you should have posted this on the G42 2 Series forum

Just another example of why we need out own subforum g87.bimmerpost.com

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Tag

1. G42 2 Series doesn't offer a MT
2. You're in the G87 M2 forum, you should have posted this on the G42 2 Series forum

Just another example of why we need out own subforum g87.bimmerpost.com

Also, no sunroof/moonfoor delete, at least when I did my huild last year. I was not required to put a deposit down but the allocations were few and far between. Took 4 months and a lot of attempts by the sales manager to trade allocations with other dealers to get an allocation (I was second on the M240 list when I did my build).

I know here in SFla, doubtful you will ever see a new one on a lot that is not already sold. They are in super demand and low availability.

I know he should post in G42 forum but was just adding to help him out

[KevinC]

"Non-refundable" deposit illegal in many/most states. Check your state laws.

[M2PDX]

BMW could sell A LOT of M230i's if they'd offer a stick shift! Would make a great daily driver.

[MPR]

Find a different dealer? I put $2,500 down over the phone with a dealer over an hour away as my local dealer wanted $5k over MSRP. I didn't ask about refundability as I was 100% certain on the car. It was a long 5.5 month wait but it's worth it. I could never settle on a car off that lot that is not optioned exactly as I want.

I also was annoyed about no moonroof delete but now I'm happy I have it.

[Joepep529]

I have a order for a M240 in New York , my 1000 dollar deposit is refundable, my dealer said it's refundable till my build starts, said he will call me to make sure I wanna go through with it , before the build starts hopefully he said I should get the car April may

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Joepep529

I have a order for a M240 in New York , my 1000 dollar deposit is refundable, my dealer said it's refundable till my build starts, said he will call me to make sure I wanna go through with it , before the build starts hopefully he said I should get the car April may

Did you get a production number or VIN yet? If not, you can probably forget April.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by Tag

1. G42 2 Series doesn't offer a MT
2. You're in the G87 M2 forum, you should have posted this on the G42 2 Series forum

Just another example of why we need out own subforum g87.bimmerpost.com

Was under the impression the 240i could be had with a 6-speed. But I have not built one.

If it can't then I'm sorry for posting in the wrong forum.

[LivingInSalt]

It can’t

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by RockCrusher

Was under the impression the 240i could be had with a 6-speed. But I have not built one.

If it can't then I'm sorry for posting in the wrong forum.

You can see the build options here

https://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/2-se...-your-own.html

[G42UPRA]

Had to put down a $2000 non-refundable deposit on mine. In Colorado a non-refundable deposit is legal so I didn't have much of a choice. You'd have to look into your local laws to argue against it.

No offense but have you even spec'd a car on the website? The M240i doesn't come in manual and you can't remove the sunroof.

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by meshuggah

Had to put down a $2000 non-refundable deposit on mine. In Colorado a non-refundable deposit is legal so I didn't have much of a choice. You'd have to look into your local laws to argue against it.

No offense but have you even spec'd a car on the website? The M240i doesn't come in manual and you can't remove the sunroof.

Good suggestion regarding researching deposits and the legality of them being non-refundable.

No I admit I have not yet built or tried to build a 240i of any configuration.

But I could have sworn I read posts by 240i owners (not M2 owners) and the car had a manual but I guess my reading comprehension is going negative...

Not sure the 240i with an 8-speed would be that big a difference compared to the 230i 8-speed car. Oh for sure the 6-cyinder engine is very desirable and more HP never goes amiss but with a similar 8-speed automatic?

While the 8-speed in the 230i is a nice transmission would be nice to be able to get the 240i with a manual. But if BMW doesn't offer it...

Guess I'll just have to make due/be satisfied with -- if all goes well today -- owning a 2023 MINI JCW with a 6-speed manual.

Then I will reconsider my desire for a 240i but limited to an 8-speed automatic.

[AWcoupe]

“But I could have sworn I read posts by 240i owners (not M2 owners) and the car had a manual but I guess my reading comprehension is going negative...”

You probably did read that somewhere. Previous generation F22 240i was available in a manual transmission. RWD only I believe.
As far as the 8 speed auto is concerned, this is my second one and I think the ZF is the best transmission I’ve ever owned. Firm, lightning quick shifts and manual mode lets you play with gear selection via the paddles without having to step on another pedal. I can appreciate the desire for a manual, I still drive one in my Mustang, but I don’t think the lack of availability should turn you off to the car. It’s an amazing machine!

[Nate48]

Man, I'm in Indy and I had to put down a $2,000 deposit to lock in an allocation request. BUT, my $2,000 is refundable up until we get the allocation and place the order, then it's non refundable.

[BrawnyCh]

Originally Posted by RockCrusher

Really starting to want a 240i with a 6-speed manual.
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I can't help but balk at that non-refundable deposit. I have not put orders in for 240is at other dealers.

I did point out I would option the car sanely so it would not be some ungodly freak of a car that the dealer couldn't even give a way.

Looking to order a 240i rear wheel drive 6-speed no sun/moon roof and with all standard options. Oh color would be Portimao blue metalic. My 230i is Brooklyn Grey and that's a nice color but I feel like another blue car.

I would of course accept the car when it arrived provided it came as ordered and had no signs of any issues and the dealer would honor the price we "agreed" upon before I placed my order. The trade in value of the 230i would of course be determined when the 240i was at the dealer.

Barring the dealer trying to lowball me on the trade in value the deal would go down. Oh, I'd write a personal check for the balance check drawn on a bank in the same town as the dealer. Did this before when I bought the 230i and there were no issues.
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I mean...never mind that you can't get an 240 with a manual and sunroof delete isn't an option. This is, in fact, an ungodly freak of a car to a dealer.

So yeah-if somehow the dealer could get it built-I can understand why they would want a non refundable deposit.

[Coconut]

You can spec a new M2 with manual and no sunroof.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by Coconut

You can spec a new M2 with manual and no sunroof.

Only way to get sunroof delete is going with carbon fiber roof ($2,600 upgrade). Oh, and if you are not already on a dealership list, your wait will probably over a year (and you will still have to deal with certain dealership's ADMs and deposits, some of which may be non-refundable).

[Rw-M240]

Originally Posted by RockCrusher

Really starting to want a 240i with a 6-speed manual.

Have informally talked to the local dealer. Was told it has no allocation. (I bought the one and only 230i it received and I bought it a day after it arrived at the dealer's lot.)

Was told it could place an order for a 240i and it might be granted an allocation but to submit an order would require me to provide a $1000 *non-refundable* deposit.

I can't help but balk at that non-refundable deposit. I have not put orders in for 240is at other dealers.

I did point out I would option the car sanely so it would not be some ungodly freak of a car that the dealer couldn't even give a way.

Looking to order a 240i rear wheel drive 6-speed no sun/moon roof and with all standard options. Oh color would be Portimao blue metalic. My 230i is Brooklyn Grey and that's a nice color but I feel like another blue car.

I would of course accept the car when it arrived provided it came as ordered and had no signs of any issues and the dealer would honor the price we "agreed" upon before I placed my order. The trade in value of the 230i would of course be determined when the 240i was at the dealer.

Barring the dealer trying to lowball me on the trade in value the deal would go down. Oh, I'd write a personal check for the balance check drawn on a bank in the same town as the dealer. Did this before when I bought the 230i and there were no issues.

I've never ordered a car before. I'm a buy off the lot type of car buyer. But on the lot 240is are as best I can tell simply not available.

My SOP is to avoid putting [...]

Not to be rude but you really typed all this out and didn’t even know you couldn’t get manual. Everyone knows that and has for over a year at this point

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by Rw-M240

Not to be rude but you really typed all this out and didn’t even know you couldn’t get manual. Everyone knows that and has for over a year at this point

But being rude.

[LivingInSalt]

Originally Posted by Coconut

You can spec a new M2 with manual and no sunroof.

You can spec a new Nissan Versa with manual and no sunroof

[RockCrusher]

Originally Posted by BrawnyCh

I mean...never mind that you can't get an 240 with a manual and sunroof delete isn't an option. This is, in fact, an ungodly freak of a car to a dealer.

So yeah-if somehow the dealer could get it built-I can understand why they would want a non refundable deposit.

You make a good point.