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      04-24-2023, 09:42 AM   #1
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Lowered G87(Black) on H&R Springs and spacers

Got my G87 lowered on H&R SS springs for the G80.
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Front is perfect, rear needs to drop 2cm more + 2-3mm more of poke.





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      04-24-2023, 10:48 AM   #2
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Nice. That 12 front looks more aggressive than the 15 IND was running.

What are the H&R spring specs? What's the drop? How's the ride quality?

Edit: spring spec is 1.4in drop front (35-40mm) and 1in. (25mm) drop rear for anyone wondering.

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Nice. That 12 front looks more aggressive than the 15 IND was running.

What are the H&R spring specs? What's the drop? How's the ride quality?

Edit: spring spec is 1.4in drop front (35-40mm) and 1in. (25mm) drop rear for anyone wondering.
Drives the same, in sport suspension you do feel a little bit of the front camber which helps for cornering. But I am really searching for a difference in feel.

You've nailed the spec on the springs, rear needs to drop a bit more.
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Drives the same, in sport suspension you do feel a little bit of the front camber which helps for cornering. But I am really searching for a difference in feel.

You've nailed the spec on the springs, rear needs to drop a bit more.
Great feedback - definitely helps us all out - thank you.

Yeah the stock G80 fitment is borderline grotesque with the rear wheel sitting at half the height of the front. Good to know what a solid inch of drop will do though.
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Are these pics right after the install? Obviously they'll settle more if so.

That being said, it looks great. Thanks for experimenting.
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Wow it looks amazing!
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Are these pics right after the install? Obviously, they'll settle more if so.

That being said, it looks great. Thanks for experimenting.
The install was on Thursday evening, put on ~300 KM. Photo was taken yesterday. I think the springs have settled into the their bushings or whatever they're called.
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Nice your thoughts line up with the wheel spec Richland forged is sending me 12mm front 15mm rear.
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This is why I'd go with a HAS kit vs springs. With a HAS you can dial in the ride height and in this case would be able to lower the rear. Also, a good one will come with shorter bumper stops which is a must.
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This is why I'd go with a HAS kit vs springs. With a HAS you can dial in the ride height and in this case would be able to lower the rear. Also, a good one will come with shorter bumper stops which is a must.

Or H&Rs adjustable lowering springs.
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This is why I'd go with a HAS kit vs springs. With a HAS you can dial in the ride height and in this case would be able to lower the rear. Also, a good one will come with shorter bumper stops which is a must.
Still waiting on someone to throw on some KW HAS. That's the route I want to go.
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Or H&Rs adjustable lowering springs.
That's a HAS (Height Adjustable Springs) kit too.

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Still waiting on someone to throw on some KW HAS. That's the route I want to go.
If they didn't offer the M Perf HAS as a port install option, I'd probably go with KW as well.
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That's a HAS (Height Adjustable Springs) kit too.



If they didn't offer the M Perf HAS as a port install option, I'd probably go with KW as well.

I understand but mainly street driving, H&R adjustable would be the better route vs KW coil overs. I have had cars with both the the H&R adjustables and KW Var 2 and the H&Rs were a much better product for the street.
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I understand but mainly street driving, H&R adjustable would be the better route vs KW coil overs. I have had cars with both the the H&R adjustables and KW Var 2 and the H&Rs were a much better product for the street.
The KWs we're talking about are not coilovers, they have a HAS kit too.
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The KWs we're talking about are not coilovers, they have a HAS kit too.

Gotcha, thx.
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I understand but mainly street driving, H&R adjustable would be the better route vs KW coil overs. I have had cars with both the the H&R adjustables and KW Var 2 and the H&Rs were a much better product for the street.
Waiting on the HAS, had the G80 springs in hand. And, I was tired of looking like a lego trying to be a monster truck.
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Damn, looks wise, damn, that looks so good. Sounds like I'll be ordering the same thing.
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I’m thinking the poke is too much. Can you show the fronts looking down from above the fender?
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When PSI dropped their car on the AST kit they actually needed 15/18 spacers because the wheel sank back into the fender. Your springs seem to keep not only stock fitment but maybe even negative adjustment.

Maybe that's the difference between just springs with no bump stops...? aerobod
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When PSI dropped their car on the AST kit they actually needed 15/18 spacers because the wheel sank back into the fender. Your springs seem to keep not only stock fitment but maybe even negative adjustment.

Maybe that's the difference between just springs with no bump stops...? aerobod
The bump stops typically should have no effect on static height or camber, as it would need a lot of drop from stock (probably 40mm or more) for them to be compressed.
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Looks awesome! Can't wait to see it with the final adjustments made!
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Nice your thoughts line up with the wheel spec Richland forged is sending me 12mm front 15mm rear.
I'm really interested in the Richland forged wheels you get. I'll be watching
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