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      04-25-2023, 07:37 AM   #1
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By our very own Canadian, Daily Downshift.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3S44RzbHtk
It’s pure torture watching this dude shift.
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      04-26-2023, 07:16 PM   #3
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It’s pure torture watching this dude shift.
He’s a virgin, I can’t imagine what I looked like when I first learned at 13.

I give him credit for buying a manual without knowing how to drive one. If more people did that maybe they’d still exist.
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Ok so it does make me rather excited for him cuz I remember what it was like experiencing your first love with Manual, let a lone being paired to a fully
pledged drivers car…🥰

HOWEVER…

Turn turn fucking camera to the road, and keep talking.... To the express your emotion with your stiff body language, 3% of thr screen time is more than enough. 🗣️
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      04-26-2023, 09:21 PM   #5
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I learned manual on my g80 also lol
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I’m learning manual on a CT5 blackwing. U got to start somewhere! If I didn’t cancel my m2 order I’ll be in the same boat.
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I’m learning manual on a CT5 blackwing. U got to start somewhere! If I didn’t cancel my m2 order I’ll be in the same boat.
How do you like the CT5BW compared to BMW’s like the 5 series?
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How do you like the CT5BW compared to BMW’s like the 5 series?
Unfortunately never had a 5. Currently own a x5. LT4 engine is a beast, steering is better than my bmw X5 and OG M2. Suspension is more forgiving but keeps the car very level. I don’t know on tranny since it’s my first manual but it feels very mechanical and clutch bite point was easy to find. Tech is similar to F series, interior is equal to my OG M2. Fit and finish isn’t as good. Overall driving dynamics of car is really good and it scares u a bit since there is so much power so low in power band. Accidentally spin tires all the time in 2-3k range as I keep learning on the manual. Car drives smaller than it is.
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Geez, learning stick on a car with 670HP (the BW)? Yikes.
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I do find it funny how you Canadians/Americans romanticise manual transmissions. Up until a few years ago almost everyone in the UK would learn to drive manuals. Only in recent years have AT driving tests gained in popularity. It’s virtually impossible finding a driver in the UK who can’t drive manual. Don’t get me wrong, I love manuals as much as the next guy but I have no shame in owning a DCT, I guess I have nothing to prove haha.

Also “It’s my first ever manual… let me turn off traction control first” . Dude, learn to walk before you run. Credit to him for jumping in at the deep end though with a manual.
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      04-27-2023, 01:53 AM   #13
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I do find it funny how you Canadians/Americans romanticise manual transmissions. Up until a few years ago almost everyone in the UK would learn to drive manuals. Only in recent years have AT driving tests gained in popularity. It’s virtually impossible finding a driver in the UK who can’t drive manual. Don’t get me wrong, I love manuals as much as the next guy but I have no shame in owning a DCT, I guess I have nothing to prove
That’s why I’ve always loved renting cars in Europe. You’d never find a Manual rental here. You always want what you can’t have I suppose. I have a lot of family in Europe and many of them described or associated Autos as luxury items back in 80s/90s. Higher petrol prices lended to smaller cars, Diesels, and of course Manuals which always had better gas mileage back then.
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That’s why I’ve always loved renting cars in Europe. You’d never find a Manual rental here. You always want what you can’t have I suppose. I have a lot of family in Europe and many of them described or associated Autos as luxury items back in 80s/90s. Higher petrol prices lended to smaller cars, Diesels, and of course Manuals which always had better gas mileage back then.
To be fair, the UK/EU has historically lagged behind the US in terms of adopting technology (post war affect). I guess the AT was one of those items that, as you say, was viewed by many as a luxury. As a result, it was slow to gain in popularity hence everyone learning manual.

For me personally, I only like driving good manuals or dual clutch. Most AT systems are still slow and boring and many MTs are rubbery and notchy. Guess I’m picky
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hilarious this channel is called “daily downshift” and this dude can’t drive a manual! The state of YouTube in 2023 🤦🏻🤦🏻
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He did drive a manual, he's just not great at it like... everyone here, it seems.

what's everyone's definition of "knowing how to drive a manual" anyways?

What I'm not hearing though are the burbles and gurgling (and all that yummy sounds) that's in every shift and gas release I make on my LCI.
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hilarious this channel is called “daily downshift” and this dude can’t drive a manual! The state of YouTube in 2023 🤦🏻🤦🏻
Technically you can still downshift an automatic transmission.
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For someone who’s only put 146km on his first manual car, I’d say he’s doing pretty well filming a video and talking his way through the entire thing.

So I get that he’s just parroting the whole rubbery gearshift feel thing, but could someone please explain what exactly is rubbery about a BMW shifter? Between my dearly departed E46 M3 and two E92 335i’s, I probably have 100k miles of seat time behind BMW manuals, and notchy is an adjective I might understand, but they are extremely mechanically engaging…
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hilarious this channel is called “daily downshift” and this dude can’t drive a manual! The state of YouTube in 2023 🤦🏻🤦🏻
Well he's clearly driving it, so....

Not trying to fight here, but do you ever say something positive in this forum?
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For someone who’s only put 146km on his first manual car, I’d say he’s doing pretty well filming a video and talking his way through the entire thing.

So I get that he’s just parroting the whole rubbery gearshift feel thing, but could someone please explain what exactly is rubbery about a BMW shifter? Between my dearly departed E46 M3 and two E92 335i’s, I probably have 100k miles of seat time behind BMW manuals, and notchy is an adjective I might understand, but they are extremely mechanically engaging…
I think the term "rubbery" pertains to the shifter's willingness to rotate itself into center position. It's "springy". That "spring" to it through gears is construed as "rubbery" because the human moving it isn't forcing it into it's intended position, rather, it's helping itself "spring to center".

Just my theory.
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I think the term "rubbery" pertains to the shifter's willingness to rotate itself into center position. It's "springy". That "spring" to it through gears is construed as "rubbery" because the human moving it isn't forcing it into it's intended position, rather, it's helping itself "spring to center".

Just my theory.
I would say yes, as the opposite would be what people describe as "Rifle Bolt" in a nod to a single shot rifle where you feel that metal moving into place and it's difficult but satisfying.
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The manual vehicles I've owned:
S2000 - phenomenal shifter
Acura TSX (Euro H. Accord) - pretty good, less mechanical feel than the S2000
Ford Contour/Mondeo - rubbery. There was a minor mod that would help some, but not enough.
I drove a Ford Ranger back in the day, but didn't technically own it.

Everything else I've experienced has had a numb rubbery feeling. Please tell me the M2 or other performance BMW manual transmissions are similar to the S2000. I'm considering ordering a manual M2 by end of year or sometime in 2024 and this could make the decision a bit eaiser. I've never driven a manual Porsche, but imagine they are top notch as well.
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