The best fitment for the G87

Tuxon_Speed · 05-30-2023, 01:40 PM

Finally got the M2 lowered! Love the ride quality and how much more aggressive it looks.

In the video I share some things that you might want to think about before you do the same. Things that will probably save you time and money in the long run.

Happy to answer any questions that I didn’t in the video!

Thank you in advance for watching!

If you just want the info…

KW HAS kit dropped as low as they can go. Macht Schnell spacer 15mm front 18mm rear.

Ride quality is still really good, just a tad more stiff but allows for a more planted feel.

About a one finger gap front and rear now.

The BEST Fitment For the G87 M2 (Springs & Spacers)

tylerdurdem · 05-30-2023, 05:44 PM

A few questions:

1) Does the KW kit come with shorter bump stops?
2) Do you have any rubbing issues on the front fender liner?
3) Have you felt the shocks bottom out at your current ride height?
4) Any extra noise from the suspension post install?
5) Have you adjusted what setting you normally use on the shocks?

Looks dope!

Tuxon_Speed · 05-30-2023, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerdurdem

A few questions:

1) Does the KW kit come with shorter bump stops?
2) Do you have any rubbing issues on the front fender liner?
3) Have you felt the shocks bottom out at your current ride height?
4) Any extra noise from the suspension post install?
5) Have you adjusted what setting you normally use on the shocks?

Looks dope!

Here is a photo of what was included in the kit and also the spacers.

I have zero issues rubbing at all and even with our crappy roads here in Tucson I have yet to feel the suspension bottom out at all.

I have noticed a small click when I’m backing out of my driveway. The click comes from the rear suspension.

I keep it in the same setting as I did before. I keep it in comfort when daily driving. But yesterday I took it on some mountain roads with the suspension in sport and it almost felt better than it did when it was stock.

Hope that answered your questions!

StickyPickle · 05-30-2023, 05:56 PM

I’ve been interested in seeing more spacer setups with M2s that have been lowered. It’s interesting both PSI and IND both have different spacer recommendations with the same set up after the car was lowered. IND recommends a 18f/15r setup PSI recommends a 15f/18r setup. Both with stock wheels before swapping them out. I’ve ordered a set of 15 and 18mm spacers w/ a KW HAS kit so I plan on playing around with it to see what looks best to me.

Tuxon_Speed · 05-30-2023, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyPickle

I’ve been interested in seeing more spacer setups with M2s that have been lowered. It’s interesting both PSI and IND both have different spacer recommendations with the same set up after the car was lowered. IND recommends a 18f/15r setup PSI recommends a 15f/18r setup. Both with stock wheels before swapping them out. I’ve ordered a set of 15 and 18mm spacers w/ a KW HAS kit so I plan on playing around with it to see what looks best to me.

Honestly I think the best look would probably be close to 18 both front and rear. I’m going to try that out but 100% 18 in the rear is perfect.

HoodR$CH · 05-30-2023, 08:46 PM

I appreciate the video. Now I can return my KW has kit. I’m going lower than that for sure.

Tuxon_Speed · 05-30-2023, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HoodR$CH

I appreciate the video. Now I can return my KW has kit. I’m going lower than that for sure.

I would be curious what else is out there that can lower. Let me know what you find!

HoodR$CH · 05-30-2023, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuxon_Speed

I would be curious what else is out there that can lower. Let me know what you find!

I know AST has a kit, not sure how low it goes. V3’s will work, haven’t looked to see if they are even out for G87 yet.

Tuxon_Speed · 05-30-2023, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoodR$CH

I know AST has a kit, not sure how low it goes. V3’s will work, haven’t looked to see if they are even out for G87 yet.

Well I know that’s the KW HAS kit is literally the same part number as the one for the G80 so I’m sure it’s the same with the V3s

FKDTM2 · 05-30-2023, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HoodR$CH

I appreciate the video. Now I can return my KW has kit. I’m going lower than that for sure.

KW HAS goes 35mm down, there’s a couple of kit going down to 45mm (AST, MSS ultra low, Cobra suspension, MMR)

We need more coilover option for sure!

StickyPickle · 05-30-2023, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuxon_Speed

Honestly I think the best look would probably be close to 18 both front and rear. I’m going to try that out but 100% 18 in the rear is perfect.

I think I’m trying the 18mm on the fronts first. Sitting stock, the fronts look more sunk in and small when staring at it a bit more today. Seems like putting bigger spacers on the fronts will push them out a tad further to give the appearance of filling out the wheel wells a little more. Really wish I went with 20 inch wheels up front lol

Game · 05-30-2023, 11:07 PM

Enjoyed the video. Surprised the 18s fit so well, the IND spacer post made it seem like they poke a bunch. Did you an alignment?

Tuxon_Speed · 05-31-2023, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Game

Enjoyed the video. Surprised the 18s fit so well, the IND spacer post made it seem like they poke a bunch. Did you an alignment?

Yeah I did the alignment the same day it was lowered.

tylerdurdem · 05-31-2023, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuxon_Speed

Here is a photo of what was included in the kit and also the spacers.

I have zero issues rubbing at all and even with our crappy roads here in Tucson I have yet to feel the suspension bottom out at all.

I have noticed a small click when I’m backing out of my driveway. The click comes from the rear suspension.

I keep it in the same setting as I did before. I keep it in comfort when daily driving. But yesterday I took it on some mountain roads with the suspension in sport and it almost felt better than it did when it was stock.

Hope that answered your questions!

It's weird, when I google the kit, some show that it comes with new bump stops, but KW's site doesn't.

Tag · 05-31-2023, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerdurdem

It's weird, when I google the kit, some show that it comes with new bump stops, but KW's site doesn't.

I thought they came with shorter bump stops too. You can email KW and ask them; their customer support is pretty good.

DailyDownshift · 06-03-2023, 12:40 AM

Ok I'm super confused, in the pic you posted there's no bump stops or wrenches for height adjustability, but in the video it looks like you got the 4 bump stops.

Or are those the OEM bump stops? It's hard to tell, they look pretty similar. Ride quality could be more harsh if you didn't swap out for the right bump stops. Bought mine from IND and it came with all 4.

Tuxon_Speed · 06-03-2023, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daily Downshift

Ok I'm super confused, in the pic you posted there's no bump stops or wrenches for height adjustability, but in the video it looks like you got the 4 bump stops.

Or are those the OEM bump stops? It's hard to tell, they look pretty similar. Ride quality could be more harsh if you didn't swap out for the right bump stops. Bought mine from IND and it came with all 4.

They had just staged the springs to take photos for their social media and I grab a shot with my phone.

DailyDownshift · 06-06-2023, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuxon_Speed

They had just staged the springs to take photos for their social media and I grab a shot with my phone.

Ahh I see, so you installed the bump stops that came with them and the ride still got a bit more stiff.. interesting. Excited to see how they feel myself!

Tuxon_Speed · 06-06-2023, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daily Downshift

Ahh I see, so you installed the bump stops that came with them and the ride still got a bit more stiff.. interesting. Excited to see how they feel myself!

Yeah. I wouldn’t say the springs drastically changed the stiffness or anything like that but it’s for sure noticeable. I actually prefer how it is now vs. the stock springs.

tylerdurdem · 06-06-2023, 09:05 AM

Have you messed with the ride height since install or are you still all the way down?

Squidget · 06-06-2023, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by M2siast

Why would the ride be harsher with stock bump stops?

Edit: I should not write text while exhausted. This post was a word salad and I'm deleting the text because it's a freakin mess and probably misleading, sorry.

Squidget · 06-06-2023, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M2siast

I couldn’t read the original but I’ll take your word for it! LOL
Cheers!

Yeah, sorry, here's try #2.

Anyway, the bump stop exists mostly as the last resort to prevent the suspension crashing into the chassis (bottoming-out). Think of it as a giant rubber bumper between metal and metal. Like cartilage in your knee.

It also dampens vibrations that would be transmitted by bare metal on metal contact. The springs are, after all, still chunks of stiff metal that will transmit vibration into your chassis. The shorter they are, the stiffer they are, the more vibration into your chassis.

So you want "beefier" bump stops to dampen more vibration and lessen the chance of bottoming out.

This is still kind of a shit explanation, probably. But I think the gist is correct.

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tylerdurdem Private First Class 140 Rep 145 Posts Drives: 2023 BGM M2 Join Date: May 2023 Location: Portland iTrader: (0)	A few questions: 1) Does the KW kit come with shorter bump stops? 2) Do you have any rubbing issues on the front fender liner? 3) Have you felt the shocks bottom out at your current ride height? 4) Any extra noise from the suspension post install? 5) Have you adjusted what setting you normally use on the shocks? Looks dope!
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