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      08-10-2023, 11:29 PM   #1
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Should I wait 5-6 months for a 2024 build to arrive or pay 5k above msrp for a similar 2023 m2 arriving next month?
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      08-10-2023, 11:32 PM   #2
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Should I wait 5-6 months for a 2024 build to arrive or pay 5k above msrp for a similar 2023 m2 arriving next month?
Don't pay ADM and get exactly what you want.
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      08-10-2023, 11:37 PM   #3
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Don't pay ADM and get exactly what you want.
Ultimately, it's up to you what you value more, getting it quicker or getting exactly what you want to order AND not pay ADM. Personally, I would only do the latter.
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Do not pay an ADM. Almost no dealers (besides the few remaining scumbag establishments) are charging them anymore.
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Should I wait 5-6 months for a 2024 build to arrive or pay 5k above msrp for a similar 2023 m2 arriving next month?

Thats a business decision only you can mske. If you want or need the car within a month and its worth an extra $5k, that is your answer.

One thing to consider, the MY24 has a little bump in price so the net difference would be a touch less than $4k.
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      08-10-2023, 11:51 PM   #6
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Please do not pay adm, the less us buyers pay it, the less it will be asked for.
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      08-11-2023, 12:20 AM   #7
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Just say no to ADM.
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      08-11-2023, 12:27 AM   #8
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Seems like there's lots of allocations now, don't pay markup
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      08-11-2023, 07:00 AM   #9
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Seems like there's lots of allocations now, don't pay markup
Agreed! I found an allocation last week for a week 42 build at MSRP.

A couple of days before that, I walked away from a deal at a Connecticut dealership that was supposedly MSRP but had $1300+ in BS fees attached to it.

So yeah, don’t pay ADM, and don’t pay BS fees that are actually ADM.
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Look, you're spending anywhere from $65K to $76K on a car, while that may be cheap to some people, for the vast majority of Americans, probably somewhere like 95%, that's still a lot of money. Get exactly what you want, spec it from scratch and when it arrives, it will have a lot more meaning to you than some car with random options that the dealer wants to offload to you and charge you $5K for the privilege.
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      08-11-2023, 12:17 PM   #11
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I bought on a whim with 5K ADM. Enjoying the car now. It was worth it to me. Only you can decide.
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Should I wait 5-6 months for a 2024 build to arrive or pay 5k above msrp for a similar 2023 m2 arriving next month?
Call around. You can find dealers who won't do ADM. You'll save money even if you pay to ship from a dealer to you due to distance. I am not paying ADM out of Richmond. And as popular as this car seems to be, I'm positive if you put a deposit down, they will call you sooner than later. My dealer had several people fall off the list ahead of me for various reasons. I thought I'd be waiting until next year, but my car is supposed to arrive later this month. This is not a GT3RS.
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      08-11-2023, 12:53 PM   #13
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For the money these cars cost, buy the car you want not the car you’re offered. Similar is a compromise.
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      08-11-2023, 12:55 PM   #14
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2024 is confirmed coming with idrive 8.5 vs 8. Few more color combinations.

I ordered a 2024..
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      08-11-2023, 12:57 PM   #15
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I bought on a whim with 5K ADM. Enjoying the car now. It was worth it to me. Only you can decide.

Exactly...its easy for everyone to say "dont pay ADM or markups" but fir each person, its their decision and for whatever reason. Of course you could get an allocation and in 3+ months have one built for MSRP but for multiple reason, some may not be able to wait nor want to wait. Its 100% each individual's choice and no right or wrong here.
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      08-11-2023, 01:44 PM   #16
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ADM is simply predatory behavior by the dealer, taking advantage of people's desire for immediate gratification. There is absolutely no value added.

My regular BMW dealer quoted me an M2 price with $5,000 ADM. I walked, not just from the deal, but from the dealer. He lost a 7-year client and reliable repeat buyer because of greed. I do not have polite words for my feelings about his behavior.

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      08-11-2023, 02:31 PM   #17
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2024 is confirmed coming with idrive 8.5 vs 8. Few more color combinations.

I ordered a 2024..
What is iD 8.5? Will my car get that via a software update or something?
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      08-11-2023, 02:44 PM   #18
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What is iD 8.5? Will my car get that via a software update or something?
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Yes, do it.
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Exactly...its easy for everyone to say "dont pay ADM or markups" but fir each person, its their decision and for whatever reason. Of course you could get an allocation and in 3+ months have one built for MSRP but for multiple reason, some may not be able to wait nor want to wait. Its 100% each individual's choice and no right or wrong here.
While I say don't pay ADM, that means you have options. There are dealers who don't ask for it. Now if they all decided to charge ADM or make you buy extras etc like Porsche or others do, then you either go without or pay it. I don't know anyone who isn't paying ADM of some sort for a GT3 Touring for example.
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While I say don't pay ADM, that means you have options. There are dealers who don't ask for it. Now if they all decided to charge ADM or make you buy extras etc like Porsche or others do, then you either go without or pay it. I don't know anyone who isn't paying ADM of some sort for a GT3 Touring for example.
I have no skin in this matter and I am at MSRP on mine. All I am saying to some people, time is money and they will pay more to have it now, or cause the need it now.

I am usually one that will try and save any way I can and not over pay. When at work, if I am getting takeout I will run out and pick up lunch. There was one time I was getting subs and my assistant talked me into uusing uber eats (she says, you can pay extra and they will expedite delivey)...with the expedite fee, uber's fee and bs markups (sub place ADM?), I wound up paying $30 for a $15 sub. Have not used uber eats since, one and done for them. Others in my office have no issue paying extra to uber eats or door dash all the time.
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All the replies were appreciated and I understand why most wouldn’t pay over sticker for this car. That being said I’m sure you’ll all be happy to know I sold out lol. After considering everyone’s advice and sleeping on it, I offered 1k over sticker and we ended up agreeing on 2200 over. I could be waiting 4-6 months for the 2024 to arrive. The 2023 should be here within a month and is the literally the exact same car I customized except has live cockpit pro.
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