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      08-11-2023, 03:34 PM   #1
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CS/CSL Software conversion

Has anyone tried this on the new g87 platform? Seems to be quite successful on the g80/82 platform. Best part is, its BMW software, so shouldnt affect warranty?

CS/CSL Software Conversion - Done remotely from UK to USA

CS Transmission - Faster, smoother shifts. Higher clutch clamping and better rev matching on down shifts. Stops the kangarooing. The perfect blend between the older dct’s very aggressive nature and the too soft original ZF software.

CS Power Steering - Sharper, loads up faster and improved feedback for better control and handling.

CSL Traction Control - Improved handling and more slip in MDM Mode before the power is cut.

CSL Differential - Better launch, more traction and improved handling. Works in conjunction with traction control and manages power transfer through the wheels better.

CSL Suspension - Better turn in and more planted on when exiting corners, stiffer in sport plus, refined and impovement on handling in general.

This is done by taking the OEM CS software and putting it on the stock car, they use the same hardware so works flawless. Engine ecu is not touched.
To do it remotely you'll need a BMW enet cable and have use of a windows laptop with ethernet port or USB to ethernet adapter.
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      08-11-2023, 03:37 PM   #2
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it affects warranty... software is not supposed for g87.. so warranty is gone
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      08-12-2023, 07:19 PM   #3
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Has anyone tried this on the new g87 platform? Seems to be quite successful on the g80/82 platform. Best part is, its BMW software, so shouldnt affect warranty?

CS/CSL Software Conversion - Done remotely from UK to USA

CS Transmission - Faster, smoother shifts. Higher clutch clamping and better rev matching on down shifts. Stops the kangarooing. The perfect blend between the older dct’s very aggressive nature and the too soft original ZF software.

CS Power Steering - Sharper, loads up faster and improved feedback for better control and handling.

CSL Traction Control - Improved handling and more slip in MDM Mode before the power is cut.

CSL Differential - Better launch, more traction and improved handling. Works in conjunction with traction control and manages power transfer through the wheels better.

CSL Suspension - Better turn in and more planted on when exiting corners, stiffer in sport plus, refined and impovement on handling in general.

This is done by taking the OEM CS software and putting it on the stock car, they use the same hardware so works flawless. Engine ecu is not touched.
To do it remotely you'll need a BMW enet cable and have use of a windows laptop with ethernet port or USB to ethernet adapter.
Who offers this? I’ve searched before after hearing someone mention it but I couldn’t find anything.
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      08-13-2023, 05:05 AM   #4
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Who offers this? I’ve searched before after hearing someone mention it but I couldn’t find anything.
kubax86 I'm still not sold the CS transmission software is the same as the CSL. Few owners that have both or have driven both still say the CSL is faster and more aggressive. Nobody really has a definitive answer.
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      08-14-2023, 04:48 AM   #5
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We have done this on our G81 M3, and it's very good. Plan to do it on our G87 M2 also.

Any software changes most likely will void your warranty, regardless of whether its BMW software or not.
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      08-14-2023, 06:51 AM   #6
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kubax86 I'm still not sold the CS transmission software is the same as the CSL. Few owners that have both or have driven both still say the CSL is faster and more aggressive. Nobody really has a definitive answer.
CSL is different, it's for RWD cars only.
CS is for AWD cars only.

We offer it worldwide - check the signature.
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CSL is different, it's for RWD cars only.
CS is for AWD cars only.

We offer it worldwide - check the signature.
Yea makes sense, should probably update your site to say you flash CSL for RWD cars.

Is it possible to request the CSL transmission software on an XDrive car?

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      08-14-2023, 08:58 AM   #8
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CSL is different, it's for RWD cars only.
CS is for AWD cars only.

We offer it worldwide - check the signature.
How do you claim it does not void warranty?
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      08-14-2023, 09:21 AM   #9
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Website does not look very trustable ...
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Website does not look very trustable ...
Thank you You can check reviews either at website or trustpilot (you can't modify them just FYI)

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How do you claim it does not void warranty?
All OEM BMW software, so it doesn't get flagged by ISTA.
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All OEM BMW software, so it doesn't get flagged by ISTA.
Assuming you have a licence agreement with BMW to redistribute and modify their software configuration? If so please post a link to it. Otherwise this is just unauthorized modification which will void the warranty (as typically specified in BMW and any other car manufacturers warranty terms and conditions). Installed versions and configs will differ from factory shipped versions, which BMW can easily check if there is a problem that involves their investigation.
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Thank you You can check reviews either at website or trustpilot (you can't modify them just FYI)



All OEM BMW software, so it doesn't get flagged by ISTA.
All cars post 2022 are ECU locked, does it need to be unlocked to install this software? Or is to a smooth install?
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      08-17-2023, 11:39 AM   #13
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All cars post 2022 are ECU locked, does it need to be unlocked to install this software? Or is to a smooth install?
DME is only locked for tuning, you can do anything with those cars via E-Sys
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      08-17-2023, 11:54 AM   #14
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All OEM BMW software, so it doesn't get flagged by ISTA.
It may not get "flagged", but if you have transmission issues, they will investigate and determine the transmission was running in different parameters from stock and deny warranty.

Similar to engine tuning, nothing may be "flagged", but if the engine breaks, they will analyze the parameters and if they see that boost was higher, for example, they will deny warranty. I think it's a similar principle.
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It may not get "flagged", but if you have transmission issues, they will investigate and determine the transmission was running in different parameters from stock and deny warranty.

Similar to engine tuning, nothing may be "flagged", but if the engine breaks, they will analyze the parameters and if they see that boost was higher, for example, they will deny warranty. I think it's a similar principle.
unfortunately when it comes to engine tuning it's different. you get immediate flag s077 chip tuning detected which is stored in engine ecu therefore cannot be removed
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unfortunately when it comes to engine tuning it's different. you get immediate flag s077 chip tuning detected which is stored in engine ecu therefore cannot be removed
Are you saying the ECU stores a flag if you install a Juice Box piggy back? My understanding is that it is completely invisible, and if you remove it, no one "knows".
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      08-17-2023, 02:19 PM   #17
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Are you saying the ECU stores a flag if you install a Juice Box piggy back? My understanding is that it is completely invisible, and if you remove it, no one "knows".
your box is not a proper engine tune, and don't be fooled by anyone saying it won't know, logs will tell the truth.
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your box is not a proper engine tune, and don't be fooled by anyone saying it won't know, logs will tell the truth.
That's our point with the CS/CSL transmission tunes.
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DME is only locked for tuning, you can do anything with those cars via E-Sys
In india, we have a speed chime at 80/120, can you also remove that/code it out?

so if this is E-sys, the ECU & TCU CS/CSL tune will be on what? just curious...
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      08-17-2023, 04:00 PM   #20
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I wonder if the CSL differential calibration works well with street tires or if it is tuned on the extra grip of the Cup 2R.
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I wonder if the CSL differential calibration works well with street tires or if it is tuned on the extra grip of the Cup 2R.
It must just be more permissive in MDM.
Doubt tires come into play. Especially because you can get the CSL without the Cup tires.
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That's our point with the CS/CSL transmission tunes.
i will not argue with you, but you're using some piggy back and afraid of doing transmission flash with oem software
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