[baron95]

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(not sure if this is known already)

I found a Mexican agency that reports on San Luis Potosi BMW production. See below July report.

On the left is July 2022/2023 production. On the right in cumulative Jan-July.

I'll do some more digging for the other months and see if production has been ramping up. Hoping as I'm waiting on my car.

As you can see 1,665 M2s were built in July and 10,519 have been built Jan-July. (plus 303 M2s produced in 2022 - all in December)

[baron95]

Did some more digging and got the monthly M2 production series data. 303 were produced in Dec/2022, 2023 is below.


Nice 44% increase in production rate from June to July. Hope it continues.

[LCDRJohn]

problem is, they only have room on the carrier ships for 50 cars per month! LOL!

A lot of us have been waiting for almost a month for a ship be be assigned...

[JCZ5]

Are North America allocated cars transported through rail?

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by JCZ5

Are North America allocated cars transported through rail?

US via ship to regional ports and then truck to dealership. Canada I believe is rail

[JCZ5]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

US via ship to regional ports and then truck to dealership. Canada I believe is rail

Oh man! I was hoping US bound would be much faster now that production is in Mexico. Thanks for the info!

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

US via ship to regional ports and then truck to dealership. Canada I believe is rail

Interesting as San Luis Potosi could not be located more inland...away from the port...

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by JCZ5

Oh man! I was hoping US bound would be much faster now that production is in Mexico. Thanks for the info!

Considering people are waiting 9-18 months to get M3s/M4s, it's definitely faster. I got my M2 two months after production on it started.

[mynameisnick4]

They surely have to be making them faster than they are shipping them, I wonder how much storage space they have for these cars. I am guessing a lot.

[Squidget]

Those are pretty healthy numbers!

To quote Road and Track:

The last-generation BMW M2 was M’s best-selling car. Like, ever. BMW managed to move over 60,000 units in seven years, a testament to the enthusiast public’s continued desire for small, punchy performance cars.

So if they cranked out 10,000 G87s already, and assuming a lot of those are Customer-Sold, BMW has another winner on their hands.

Also permit me to now throw a middle finger at all those haters from last year who said BMW forgot how to make sports cars, was gonna go bankrupt because they lost the soul or whatever, blah blah.

[baron95]

Originally Posted by LCDRJohn

problem is, they only have room on the carrier ships for 50 cars per month! LOL!

A lot of us have been waiting for almost a month for a ship be be assigned...

Well, I don't think production can accumulate, nor do I think BMW would be sitting on finished inventory. Ultimately shipping volume needs to match production volume somewhat closely.

I actually had no idea that M2 production was that high. At the July run rate we are talking ~20K M2s/year annualized.

Yes, boat shipping is a bunch them up, then send them operation, but it matches production rates on average.

[baron95]

Originally Posted by DFW_M

Interesting as San Luis Potosi could not be located more inland...away from the port...

It doesn't really matter how inland it is. All that matters is that they are right by a rail line that goes to Veracruz port (East Coast and Europe shipping) or Lazaro Cardenas for West Coast/Asia.

SLP is perfectly located - near population centers (to hire people), rail/logistics line, and nearly equidistant from to ship to the east and west. This may become BMWs most efficient and productive factory.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by baron95

It doesn't really matter how inland it is. All that matters is that they are right by a rail line that goes to Veracruz port (East Coast and Europe shipping) or Lazaro Cardenas for West Coast/Asia.

SLP is perfectly located - near population centers (to hire people), rail/logistics line, and nearly equidistant from to ship to the east and west. This may become BMWs most efficient and productive factory.

They are also using Altamira for east coast.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by baron95

SLP is perfectly located - near population centers (to hire people), rail/logistics line, and nearly equidistant from to ship to the east and west. This may become BMWs most efficient and productive factory.

Not just BMW, either. SLP is an manufacturing powerhouse for Mexico.

[Gulfbreeze13]

Originally Posted by LCDRJohn

problem is, they only have room on the carrier ships for 50 cars per month! LOL!

A lot of us have been waiting for almost a month for a ship be be assigned...

50 cars per month?

I’m assuming because of all the other brands ?

That’s kinda shocking if true

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

They are also using Altamira for east coast.

Fact!

[T_U_D]

As I have suspected all along BMW is going produce as many base G87s as humanly possible therefore these will never be collectible, at least not in many of our lifetimes. Any special model such as a CS or CSL and the final model year of production will be of value 20-30+ years from production.


Edit, Even with the impending demise of ICE, exponentially high production numbers dramatically hurt the G87 from ever being a highly desirable collectible. Just food for thought for those that might have thought the G87 was a future classic.

[DSTR]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

As I have suspected all along BMW is going produce as many base G87s as humanly possible therefore these will never be collectible, at least not in many of our lifetimes. Any special model such as a CS or CSL and the final model year of production will be of value 20-30+ years from production.


Edit, Even with the impending demise of ICE, exponentially high production numbers dramatically hurt the G87 from ever being a highly desirable collectible. Just food for thought for those that might have thought the G87 was a future classic.

There was never a hint that production would be limited. Stating as a marketing ploy about last ICE is not utterly true as Hybrid has ICE.
BMW is a volume producer.

No surprise and not many BMW's are true collectibles with astonishing values. Very very few. Thats ok as well. I bought my M2 to drive daily. Winter wheels are already obtained and tires to be ordered mid point September.

[Squidget]

Originally Posted by DSTR

There was never a hint that production would be limited. Stating as a marketing ploy about last ICE is not utterly true as Hybrid has ICE.
BMW is a volume producer.

No surprise and not many BMW's are true collectibles with astonishing values. Very very few. Thats ok as well. I bought my M2 to drive daily. Winter wheels are already obtained and tires to be ordered mid point September.

They never said last ICE, they said pure ICE (non-electrified), and by implication last MT.

100% agree that anyone who thought it would be a collectible was mistaken. The F87 M2 was the highest volume M car, there was no reason to think that the new M2 would be different.

Fine by me, I DD my car and will drive it until the wheels fall off. No resale concerns for me.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by DSTR

There was never a hint that production would be limited. Stating as a marketing ploy about last ICE is not utterly true as Hybrid has ICE.
BMW is a volume producer.

No surprise and not many BMW's are true collectibles with astonishing values. Very very few. Thats ok as well. I bought my M2 to drive daily. Winter wheels are already obtained and tires to be ordered mid point September.

One caveat, M production has always been lower than Non-M production so there is that in the G87s favor.

Edit, BTW, I was speaking in regards to FULL ICE, zero G87 hybridization.

[baron95]

I want my car to drive. As far as I'm concerned the more they produce them and the faster they produce them, the happier I'll be.

Also aftermarket support increases tremendously once a model is out in higher numbers.

I want to drive my M2, not collect it.

I think M2/M3/M4 production is limited by the number of S58 engines that can be built, and things like the carbon roof production limits, carbon bucket seats, for those ordering them.

I excluded the carbon buckets from my order, to avoid any delays, as I was on the fence on them anyway.

I hope that plant pumps out 2024 M2s at a faster clip.

[Sebis]

Originally Posted by DSTR

There was never a hint that production would be limited. Stating as a marketing ploy about last ICE is not utterly true as Hybrid has ICE.
BMW is a volume producer.

No surprise and not many BMW's are true collectibles with astonishing values. Very very few. Thats ok as well. I bought my M2 to drive daily. Winter wheels are already obtained and tires to be ordered mid point September.

+1

I didn't buy mine for specifically daily driving since I work from home, and I do intent to keep it as long as possible. Having many cars in production means parts availability and after market-support should not be an issue at reasonable prices.

Strongly believe this is the last pure ICE M car and therefore last one equipped with a manual transition. This is why I ordered one, not because of potential future collectible value.

In addition, want to teach my son how to drive a manual transmission (he is almost 11 now) this will become a lost "art" in the not so distant future.