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      08-17-2023, 05:20 PM   #1
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So I have a 2023 M240i, I installed a Pedal Commander as I do on all my cars. I noticed when I'm getting on the car and I push the Pedal to the metal it's moving good but when I let off a little it feels like the turbo spools harder. Anyone else feel something like this, should I take the Pedal commander out???
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      08-17-2023, 05:40 PM   #2
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should I take the Pedal commander out???
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      08-17-2023, 06:03 PM   #3
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This car cracks 60 in 3.7 seconds, and you think the pedal isn’t quick enough? 😳🤣
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      08-17-2023, 06:15 PM   #4
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True, I know it works very well on my other cars and it's just a habit to install, going to take it off right now and see
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      08-19-2023, 04:07 PM   #5
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I used to install pedalbox to all my vehicles too, but TBH I do not feel the need to do that to this car as the pedal is very well mapped in every mode.
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      08-19-2023, 04:10 PM   #6
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Well that didn't last long, it is a Night & day difference. Needless to say it's back on the car & it feels alive again
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This car cracks 60 in 3.7 seconds, and you think the pedal isn’t quick enough? 😳🤣
Does it? Hmmmm.
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      08-19-2023, 05:43 PM   #8
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Does it? Hmmmm.
3.5 here, and that’s before the AA DP and 19 lb. wheels. Hoping for 3.3 when it’s not 109F outside.
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      08-20-2023, 05:05 AM   #9
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3.5 here, and that’s before the AA DP and 19 lb. wheels. Hoping for 3.3 when it’s not 109F outside.
So depending on the mod, a completely random figure then.
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So depending on the mod, a completely random figure then.
Yes, sort of like extrapolating 1/4 mile times from 1/8 mile times, “completely random”.
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      08-20-2023, 11:46 AM   #11
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Yes, sort of like extrapolating 1/4 mile times from 1/8 mile times, “completely random”.
If you said the M240i had a 0-60 of 3.7s in the pub everyone would just laugh at you. Now bring in your usual straw man.
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      08-20-2023, 12:07 PM   #12
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WTH are you talking about? I mentioned the 0-60 time I’ve achieved via Draggy, and the 0-60 time I hope to achieve with mods added since then.

You sound like some bitter old man in mom’s basement that’s getting ignored by the cam girls.
Oh, so you piss off G42 owners too! I thought your game was just trolling in the G87 forums lol
Just messing around, don’t take it too seriously.

What everyone should take seriously, though, is that pedal response has nothing to do with how quick the car is.
OP wants something that makes the pedal react more quickly to inputs. The car has “modes” built in by BMW that alter how the pedal reacts, how quickly it reacts and how much throttle input corresponds to how much “throttle”. E.g. in Efficient/Comfort, a 50% pedal input might correspond to 25% throttle, whereas in Sport+ a 25% pedal might correspond to 50% throttle. So that “responsiveness” you feel is just the car tricking you, and it depends on your driving style, power is always the same.
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Oh, so you piss off G42 owners too! I thought your game was just trolling in the G87 forums lol
Just messing around, don’t take it too seriously.

What everyone should take seriously, though, is that pedal response has nothing to do with how quick the car is.
OP wants something that makes the pedal react more quickly to inputs. The car has “modes” built in by BMW that alter how the pedal reacts, how quickly it reacts and how much throttle input corresponds to how much “throttle”. E.g. in Efficient/Comfort, a 50% pedal input might correspond to 25% throttle, whereas in Sport+ a 25% pedal might correspond to 50% throttle. So that “responsiveness” you feel is just the car tricking you, and it depends on your driving style, power is always the same.
This is true. My E36 M3 has a very linear throttle response- if you want 50% throttle, you push the pedal down half way. Most cars have a non-linear throttle response to give the impression of responsiveness. On some Japanese cars I've driven the last half of the throttle pedal travel doesn't do anything- you have full power at 50% pedal motion. That's really bad if you're trying to modulate throttle around a race course.
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      08-20-2023, 02:46 PM   #14
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I put the Pedal Commander on a motorcycle so that I wouldn't have to move my wrist as far when I wanted full throttle. Factory setting was linear but the amount I had to move my wrist for WOT was excessive. Best $250 I ever spent. On a car I don't see the need since it is your foot VS your wrist but to each his own. I sure wouldn't want it in the rain with a car that had no traction control.
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      08-20-2023, 02:51 PM   #15
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3.5 here, and that’s before the AA DP and 19 lb. wheels. Hoping for 3.3 when it’s not 109F outside.
Did you do a 3.5 with or without jb4?
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Did you do a 3.5 with or without jb4?
3.5 was with JB4 and I “think” xHP. Can’t remember for sure if the trans was tuned at that point, but I know the AA DP wasn’t installed.

I’d expect the DP should be good for at least 1/10th, and the forged wheels with wider rubber (265 square) may shave ever so slightly more. I remember significant wheel spin when launching with the winter performance tires (225/255).

I’ll do another 1/8 (which includes 0-60) when these 109F days are behind us.
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3.5 was with JB4 and I “think” xHP. Can’t remember for sure if the trans was tuned at that point, but I know the AA DP wasn’t installed.

I’d expect the DP should be good for at least 1/10th, and the forged wheels with wider rubber (265 square) may shave ever so slightly more. I remember significant wheel spin when launching with the winter performance tires (225/255).

I’ll do another 1/8 (which includes 0-60) when these 109F days are behind us.
I’ve did a 3.37 0-60 with stock wheels and the all seasons on jb4 map 4 so you should probably be seeing much better times when the weather cools down. I was slipping off the launch so I’m sure better tires would improve the time a good amount too
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I’ve did a 3.37 0-60 with stock wheels and the all seasons on jb4 map 4 so you should probably be seeing much better times when the weather cools down. I was slipping off the launch so I’m sure better tires would improve the time a good amount too
Impressive! Do you have a DP?
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      08-20-2023, 03:15 PM   #19
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Impressive! Do you have a DP?
Yes AA
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      09-01-2023, 09:44 PM   #20
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Oh, so you piss off G42 owners too! I thought your game was just trolling in the G87 forums lol
Just messing around, don’t take it too seriously.

What everyone should take seriously, though, is that pedal response has nothing to do with how quick the car is.
OP wants something that makes the pedal react more quickly to inputs. The car has “modes” built in by BMW that alter how the pedal reacts, how quickly it reacts and how much throttle input corresponds to how much “throttle”. E.g. in Efficient/Comfort, a 50% pedal input might correspond to 25% throttle, whereas in Sport+ a 25% pedal might correspond to 50% throttle. So that “responsiveness” you feel is just the car tricking you, and it depends on your driving style, power is always the same.

I only agree with this partly.
Yes you have the same power... at the said RPM
But your on the pedal quicker so you hit your max torque RPM much quicker.
I have used sprint boosters on m240i, lp570-04 Supertrofeo, gallardo and trap speed is a little quicker on quarter mile. From a stand still without using launch control. Shifting manual paddleshift and maxing out torque at each gear shift.

The question I have for you is... have you ever tried personally and record your trap speed on a quarter mile?
Sprint booster (unlike pedal commander) you can turn it totally off on one run and then turn it back on Red 9 and there definitely is a difference. It is not placebo.
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