[ronin13013]

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High Speeds!

[Humdizzle]

i fast forwarded to the end for the review. seems to think its a good car but that its basically a clone of the M4 and doesn't feel much different. so its basically personal preference between them which one you want. he also pointed out this car was modded with aftermarket springs, which paired with the stock shocks make the ride bouncy.

[ronin13013]

170 under the bridge!!

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

i fast forwarded to the end for the review. seems to think its a good car but that its basically a clone of the M4 and doesn't feel much different. so its basically personal preference between them which one you want. he also pointed out this car was modded with aftermarket springs, which paired with the stock shocks make the ride bouncy.

[hufington]

Not bad!

[435MSport6Speed]

"Plenty of power. Plenty of weight". Great line. I was at The Ring on the 15th in an M240 x-Drive. Great car for The Ring.

[FinalV8]

Nice! 18:00 - 19:00 min just makes me laugh watching the passengers facial expressions...Priceless. Can't say I'd be any better.

BTW finally got my G87 M2 3 days ago, 1000 miles so far, break in service early next week, mods start Monday.

I got the 6MT after not driving a manual for 20 years. Takes some getting used to for sure but I love it. Early impressions is that's it's better then my '22 G80 M3 Xdrive comp on turn in and a more true feel with the 6MT.

The clutch throw seems very long, and it engages very high. I need to fix this along with the 6MT gates which seem extraordinarily long. Will fix shortly.

[CoffeeLife]

Originally Posted by FinalV8

Nice! 18:00 - 19:00 min just makes me laugh watching the passengers facial expressions...Priceless. Can't say I'd be any better.

BTW finally got my G87 M2 3 days ago, 1000 miles so far, break in service early next week, mods start Monday.

I got the 6MT after not driving a manual for 20 years. Takes some getting used to for sure but I love it. Early impressions is that's it's better then my '22 G80 M3 Xdrive comp on turn in and a more true feel with the 6MT.

The clutch throw seems very long, and it engages very high. I need to fix this along with the 6MT gates which seem extraordinarily long. Will fix shortly.

If its all still the same, install a UCP (ultimate clutch pedal). One of my favorite mods allowing me to have a shorter clutch pedal travel and it being level with the brake pedal.

[KevM2]

Lowering springs with the stock shocks makes it more bouncy?!! I wonder if same is true for the M Performance HAS

[adc]

Originally Posted by KevM2

Lowering springs with the stock shocks makes it more bouncy?!! I wonder if same is true for the M Performance HAS

Absolutely.

None of the MPerformance parts actually do anything for performance. Had to explain this to a M4 driver why his fancy BMW wing doesn’t help him at all at Road Atlanta just today. Buyer beware.

If you want max performance out of a stock-ish car, do camber plates, pads, perhaps wheels/tires and keep the stock suspension. It’s amazing.

Also be aware that the new BMW brake by wire system will vary the brake pressures to cover for you without any change in brake pedal feel, even if your brakes are starting to fade.

Again, buyer beware.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by adc

Absolutely.

None of the MPerformance parts actually do anything for performance. Had to explain this to a M4 driver why his fancy BMW wing doesn’t help him at all at Road Atlanta just today. Buyer beware.

If you want max performance out of a stock-ish car, do camber plates, pads, perhaps wheels/tires and keep the stock suspension. It’s amazing.

Also be aware that the new BMW brake by wire system will vary the brake pressures to cover for you without any change in brake pedal feel, even if your brakes are starting to fade.

Again, buyer beware.

Most of this, but I could definitely feel the pedal change as brakes got hotter after a few laps. The system might compensate for fade (has done so since 2007), but it’s not “by wire” (by wire indicates there’s no physical connection, like drive-by-wire, which removes the connection to the throttle body and leaves it completely electronic).

In essence: the brakes behave the same way since BMW started adding “nannies” in the E90 (and perhaps the E46, but I’m inexperienced with those).

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

If this car has the star spec PS4S tires & factory wheels, I wonder what Misha could've done on these 2 laps. Having that thinner sidewall makes the car a bit more touch when absorbing bumps mid corner at high speeds. Glad to see him pushing the car pretty hard here & the Millteck sounded great too!

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

If this car has the star spec PS4S tires & factory wheels, I wonder what Misha could've done on these 2 laps. Having that thinner sidewall makes the car a bit more touch when absorbing bumps mid corner at high speeds. Glad to see him pushing the car pretty hard here & the Millteck sounded great too!

Very interesting to hear him say the BMW specific PS4S(star spec) tires on the G8x are nearly Cup 2's.

He certainly was not fan of the normal PS4S on that M2, he said the car definitely needed more grip.

[VIERsr]

Originally Posted by KevM2

Lowering springs with the stock shocks makes it more bouncy?!! I wonder if same is true for the M Performance HAS

No, lowered springs and HAS are different.
That guy messed with springs, wheels and tires for aesthetic reasons and made the car's dynamics worse.
On the road at slow speed it might be negligible, but on a (bouncy) track driving at those levels an experienced driver can feel the difference.

[Fastfwd]

I recently discovered this guy on Youtube. Crazy what a pro can do with these cars. Cool to see what they are capable of at the full limits.

[AndreM2]

Misha is far off to be a Pro!

He knows the Nurburgring very good but he is for sure no racing car driver.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by AndreM2

Misha is far off to be a Pro!

He knows the Nurburgring very good but he is for sure no racing car driver.

https://youtu.be/Q9aTNbc6YdQ?si=0eSTAel0w4Yps1RW

[AndreM2]

Pro drivers are no YouTubers.

If you play one tennis match does not mean you are a pro tennis player.

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by AndreM2

Pro drivers are no YouTubers.

https://youtube.com/@NicoRosberg?si=SwCO7MSrWl2ieSDV

https://youtube.com/@DanielRicciardo?si=PitM266tg4yWF7uZ

https://youtube.com/@charles_leclerc?si=jHW225PwVhoXJiEL

https://youtube.com/@LandoNorris?si=KAHsAMna9kC5qgoR

[M2siast]

Originally Posted by AndreM2

Pro drivers are no YouTubers.

If you play one tennis match does not mean you are a pro tennis player.

Not, indeed.

If you get paid to play a tennis match, you are a pro tennis player.

Not a hard concept.

[G30M]

800 miles

better get the oil changes done, still on break-in oils

[Fastfwd]

Originally Posted by AndreM2

Misha is far off to be a Pro!

He knows the Nurburgring very good but he is for sure no racing car driver.

My mistake. I presumed he was a professional race car driver. I've watched a ton of car review Youtube videos including test drives with Randy Pobst, etc. and this guy appears to knock it out with the best of them.

[adc]

Originally Posted by M2siast

Most of this, but I could definitely feel the pedal change as brakes got hotter after a few laps. The system might compensate for fade (has done so since 2007), but it’s not “by wire” (by wire indicates there’s no physical connection, like drive-by-wire, which removes the connection to the throttle body and leaves it completely electronic).

In essence: the brakes behave the same way since BMW started adding “nannies” in the E90 (and perhaps the E46, but I’m inexperienced with those).

I’m pretty sure you are wrong about this. The G8x cars have a brake by wire system, pioneered in the M8. In other words, there is no direct mechanical connection between the brake pedal and the calipers.

Quick search to find this https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/08/05/f...e-2021-bmw-m3/
I’m sure you can find it in the official BMW literature as well.

Anyway, whatever you felt in the pedal is part of the braking algorithm. All I’m saying that some people have had weird pedal feel at the track - then again I don’t have direct experience and who knows, they may have had a malfunctioning brake system.