Decode the European "Intelligent Speed Adaptation" (ISA) possible?

MaxZ8 · 08-28-2023, 08:15 AM

Hi guys,
so for everyone that watched reviews from EU-spec cars noticed the annoying "bling bling" sound every time you go too fast - or the car thinks you going too fast because it recognized a wrong sign.

I know the G87 is not yet official supported by Bimmercode. However is there any known possibility to decode this warning? If not will there a possibility once the G87 will be officially supported?

This really is a stupid feature as it also warns you if you drive 51 in a 50 zone and also won't recognize every sign correct.

Hope to get some help!

GregW / Oregon · 08-28-2023, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxZ8

Hi guys,
so for everyone that watched reviews from EU-spec cars noticed the annoying "bling bling" sound every time you go too fast - or the car thinks you going too fast because it recognized a wrong sign.

I know the G87 is not yet official supported by Bimmercode. However is there any known possibility to decode this warning? If not will there a possibility once the G87 will be officially supported?

This really is a stupid feature as it also warns you if you drive 51 in a 50 zone and also won't recognize every sign correct.

Hope to get some help!

No coding necessary in the US, at least; apparently different in Germany. Here, you can turn off the sound, and also adjust the MPH tolerance over the limit. Perhaps you can even turn Speed Limit Assist off (don't have my car here right now to check).

DomMuc · 08-28-2023, 12:00 PM

you can decode it.. with decoding goes the warrany ... ( Software change--loss of warranty)

GregW / Oregon · 08-28-2023, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DomMuc

you can decode it.. with decoding goes the warranty ... ( Software change--loss of warranty)

That statement seems overly broad. At least in the US, it would have to be proven an issue was related to the change made to deny warranty.

c1pher · 08-28-2023, 12:12 PM

That's not going to invalidate the warranty lol.

Squidget · 08-28-2023, 05:22 PM

Also mods never invalidate the warranty itself. They just may be used as justification to refuse certain claims. But the warranty remains and can be used for other claims.

I'm not sure if there is a way to actually wipe out an entire warranty, short of illegally exporting the car or committing a crime with it... crazy shit like that.

Ravenseal · 08-28-2023, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DomMuc

you can decode it.. with decoding goes the warrany ... ( Software change--loss of warranty)

Coding absolutely does not void the vehicle warranty. What hole did you pull that nonsense out of?

myaghi · 09-01-2023, 01:47 PM

My EU car has also that speed limit warning that keep reactivating after each engine start. Keeping for 2 seconds the SET button on the steering wheel turns it off.
I just made some codding with Bimmercode, but it has nothing for this or the lane assist that also keep reactivating itself

M Division · 09-05-2023, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DomMuc

you can decode it.. with decoding goes the warrany ... ( Software change—loss of warranty)

Software change to the ECU impacts warranty.. Not control modules.

Chapman1977 · 06-24-2024, 11:34 PM

Can any of the European owners shed some light on coding out the sound permanently?

Picked up my car yesterday and on the way home the constant reminders about going 1 km/h over the speed limit literally drove me insane

Got a Bimmercoed ready to go hope it is in there somewhere

Best Regards

DSTR · 06-25-2024, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chapman1977

Can any of the European owners shed some light on coding out the sound permanently?

Picked up my car yesterday and on the way home the constant reminders about going 1 km/h over the speed limit literally drove me insane

Got a Bimmercoed ready to go hope it is in there somewhere

Best Regards

Turn off after car is started. 2 ways to do it. SET button on steering wheel or i-Drive menu. Not that big an effort. A few seconds as car builds oil pressure after motor start! Hold SET button 3sec and u see alert that speed limit warning is off.

JABCAT · 06-25-2024, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

No coding necessary in the US, at least; apparently different in Germany. Here, you can turn off the sound, and also adjust the MPH tolerance over the limit. Perhaps you can even turn Speed Limit Assist off (don't have my car here right now to check).

Yes, on US cars you just turn it off in settings.

Chapman1977 · 06-25-2024, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTR

Turn off after car is started. 2 ways to do it. SET button on steering wheel or i-Drive menu. Not that big an effort. A few seconds as car builds oil pressure after motor start! Hold SET button 3sec and u see alert that speed limit warning is off.

Yeah that works exactly until the next engine start - no way to code it out permanently?

DSTR · 06-25-2024, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chapman1977

Yeah that works exactly until the next engine start - no way to code it out permanently?

You might be able to but risk warranty issues here in EU -Im in Germany. Its not that big a problem. Not for me. Its just a part of my start up and drive. Too E-Z.

Tag · 06-25-2024, 11:32 AM

Chris Harris mentioned in his review that if you have the BMW app on your phone it won't prompt you every time.

"I hate the fact that I have to turn off the lane departure bullshit speed warnings, but that's just life. Apparently, if you have the app, which I don't have, you don't need to do that..."

@4m9s

DSTR · 06-25-2024, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tag

Chris Harris mentioned in his review that if you have the BMW app on your phone it won't prompt you every time.

"I hate the fact that I have to turn off the lane departure bullshit speed warnings, but that's just life. Apparently, if you have the app, which I don't have, you don't need to do that..."

@4m9s

It is on my phone and not set up to share data in any meaningful way.To get this fully off you will be sharing data from what I see. No thank you. BMW and 'relevant authorities' per the app, have zero reason to see what Ive set up.

Tag · 06-25-2024, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTR

It is on my phone and not set up to share data in any meaningful way.To get this fully off you will be sharing data from what I see. No thank you. BMW and 'relevant authorities' per the app, have zero reason to see what Ive set up.

DSTR, that's a bummer and don't blame you for not wanting to share your data.

MaxZ8, can't blame BMW for this; they are just abiding by your local/regional laws.

As others have mentioned, coding won't void anything and is not to be confused with tuning a car. Coding is simply turning features on/off that already exist. You're literally flipping a bit, nothing more.

DSTR · 06-25-2024, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tag

DSTR, that's a bummer and don't blame you for not wanting to share your data.

MaxZ8, can't blame BMW for this; they are just abiding by your local/regional laws.

As others have mentioned, coding won't void anything and is not to be confused with tuning a car. Coding is simply turning features on/off that already exist. You're literally flipping a bit, nothing more.

We are not 'enthusiasts' anymore - just data points to be exploited and sold, yet we pay for all of this. Seems like BMW, Or any other so called company should pay us to use the data we generate by PAYING for their fkd up products lol

JABCAT · 06-26-2024, 10:38 PM

Do the Euro models not have this option in settings?

aerobod · 06-26-2024, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JABCAT

Do the Euro models not have this option in settings?

Since mid-2022, all new car models in the UK and EU (and all new cars sold from July 2024) have to have an ISA system implemented that resets to active every time the car is started: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/content...2?refresh=true

JABCAT · 06-26-2024, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aerobod

Since mid-2022, all new car models in the UK and EU (and all new cars sold from July 2024) have to have an ISA system implemented that resets to active every time the car is started: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/content...2?refresh=true

Wow, talk about government overreach.

I specifically liked this statement, "However, many cars have a top speed of over 70 mph, which makes it important to ensure that drivers adhere to the legal UK speed limits." - lol 70 mph.

myaghi · 06-27-2024, 08:34 AM

What Chris said it's not possible. I have the MyBMW app on my phone and all the permisions and there si no way to turn off this features.
What is interesting is that my collegue M4 made 1 monthe after my M2 does not have this features. He turned off this systems and they stay like this.
I think is has to do more with the homologation date than production date

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myaghi Private First Class 99 Rep 109 Posts Drives: G87 Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: Romania iTrader: (0)	What Chris said it's not possible. I have the MyBMW app on my phone and all the permisions and there si no way to turn off this features. What is interesting is that my collegue M4 made 1 monthe after my M2 does not have this features. He turned off this systems and they stay like this. I think is has to do more with the homologation date than production date Last edited by myaghi; 06-27-2024 at 08:48 AM..
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