[dmac@HI]

So I have an M2 on order (should get production date anyday), and I wanted to put the flat carbon fiber spoiler on back (not the wing that sticks up like a Subaru). It isn't currently listed on the M performance parts page on bmwusa. The dealership told me the part was back ordered for an unknown amount of time (which is why I ordered it so early). The part came in and it looks great, but I'm not sure if it's right.

The part number on spolier indicates 51195A51348 (Spoiler G42 US). So it is apparently a spoiler for regular 2 series. Would this fit on on M2, if not, does anyone have correct part numbers?

Part numbers for all M Performance parts would be great, because others like mirror caps are also missing.

[JABCAT]

The rear spoiler should fit without any issues. I's strongly encourage you to look for the parts you want on Ali Express vs paying the ridiculous prices for oem BMW pieces. They're all pretty much the same.

*The part numbers show for me on shopbmwusa.com. Example: These are listed for $2,368.90. You can get cf mirror caps on Ali for ~$100 or so.

Part # 51168075063
BMW M Performance Carbon Fiber Mirror Cap, Left
#51168075064
BMW M Performance Carbon Fiber Mirror Cap, Right

Part #51195A51348
BMW M Performance Rear Spoiler in Carbon Fiber - $617. You can find the same spoiler aftermarket for 1/3 the price.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

Part #51195A51348
BMW M Performance Rear Spoiler in Carbon Fiber - $617. You can find the same spoiler aftermarket for 1/3 the price.

The ZC9 Carbon Fiber Rear Spoiler for $204?
No, you can’t.

[DBV]

Originally Posted by Carefree

The ZC9 Carbon Fiber Rear Spoiler for $204?
No, you can’t.

Not sure what ZC9 means, but you should check out AliExpress if you don't believe him. Carbon parts (of admittedly varying quality, some OEM quality, others not) have gotten pretty cheap in recent years.

I personally got the MP Style spoiler off AliExpress for $60, and while it's not carbon, it works for me and my car.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by DBV

Not sure what ZC9 means, but you should check out AliExpress if you don't believe him. Carbon parts (of admittedly varying quality, some OEM quality, others not) have gotten pretty cheap in recent years.

I personally got the MP Style spoiler off AliExpress for $60, and while it's not carbon, it works for me and my car.

ZC9 is the order code for the factory rear spoiler. My point is (read it again) you cannot buy that part for 1/3 the posted price of $617.
The aftermarket crap is up to you.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by Carefree

The ZC9 Carbon Fiber Rear Spoiler for $204?
No, you can’t.

You can get a replica (e.g., made from a mold of the oem) for 1/3 the price all over the place. OEM BMW parts are nothing special, and probably made in the same Chinese factories.

I bought an OEM MPerformance front splitter for my G20. It was cheap, flimsy abs plastic absolutely no different from the aftermarket pieces on ebay for $100. Same for the side skirts, I had both MPerformance & ebay. MPerformance were $550, ebay was $100 - exactly the same.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

You can get a replica (e.g., made from a mold of the oem) for 1/3 the price all over the place. OEM BMW parts are nothing special, and probably made in the same Chinese factories.

I bought an OEM MPerformance front splitter for my G20. It was cheap, flimsy abs plastic absolutely no different from the aftermarket pieces on ebay for $100. Same for the side skirts, I had both MPerformance & ebay. MPerformance were $550, ebay was $100 - exactly the same.

You posted this:
“Part #51195A51348
BMW M Performance Rear Spoiler in Carbon Fiber - $617. You can find the same spoiler aftermarket for 1/3 the price”

I repeat. You cannot find this part # for 1/3 the price. A replica is not “the same”.
Stop the backtracking with “replica”, “identical molds” blah blah blah and double talk. Just say you’re wrong.

Regarding OEM parts, that’s your opinion and “probably” is a worthless argument.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by Carefree

You posted this:
“Part #51195A51348
BMW M Performance Rear Spoiler in Carbon Fiber - $617. You can find the same spoiler aftermarket for 1/3 the price”

I repeat. You cannot find this part # for 1/3 the price. A replica is not “the same”.
Just say you’re wrong.

Regarding OEM parts, that’s your opinion and “probably” is a worthless argument.

Clearly you didn't read what you quoted. "you can find this same spoiler aftermarket for 1/3 the price"

I highlighted the key word there for you. And yes, a replica is the same in design, appearance, fitment, etc. That doesn't seem to be that difficult to understand.

Re: the OEM parts/aftermarket, it's not my opinion, I provided examples of two parts that I had in my possession. The parts were identical in every way. The MPerformance front splitter didn't even have BMW or a part # stamped on it. I had to show my invoice to the buyer when I sold it to prove it was a BMW part.

But if you must waste you $ on the OEM rear spoiler, you can buy it online for $481 instead of the $617.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

Clearly you didn't read what you quoted. "you can find this same spoiler aftermarket for 1/3 the price"

I highlighted the key word there for you. And yes, a replica is the same in design, appearance, fitment, etc. That doesn't seem to be that difficult to understand.

Re: the OEM parts/aftermarket, it's not my opinion, I provided examples of two parts that I had in my possession. The parts were identical in every way. The MPerformance front splitter didn't even have BMW or a part # stamped on it. I had to show my invoice to the buyer when I sold it to prove it was a BMW part.

But if you must waste you $ on the OEM rear spoiler, you can buy it online for $481 instead of the $617.

Ok Biff, buy cheap. It suits you.

[DBV]

...all this over a spoiler question

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by Carefree

Ok Biff, buy cheap. It suits you.

Seriously, what are you not grasping? I guarantee you couldn't pick which parts are oem and which parts are aftermarket on any of my vehicles. If you like overpaying for the same part, nobody is stopping you.

You went on a rant because you misread the suggestion I provided to the OP. You seem to not understand what same or replica mean, "of an identical type, exactly similar". So like I said, you can get the same spoiler aftermarket for 1/3 - 1/2 the price.

Resorting to name calling and unfounded insults defeats your entire argument.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

Seriously, what are you not grasping? I guarantee you couldn't pick which parts are oem and which parts are aftermarket on any of my vehicles. If you like overpaying for the same part, nobody is stopping you.

You went on a rant because you misread the suggestion I provided to the OP. You seem to not understand what same or replica, "of an identical type, exactly similar". So like I said, you can get the [B]same[B] spoiler aftermarket for 1/3 - 1/2 the price.

Resorting to name calling and unfounded insults defeats your entire argument.

There is no name calling and you can’t guarantee anything as to what I could or couldn’t identify. Don’t be disingenuous.
Stop here, you’re embarrassing yourself. Buying cheap isn’t an insult, it’s a choice.
I’m done.

[M_Power Rob]

Originally Posted by JABCAT

Clearly you didn't read what you quoted. "you can find this same spoiler aftermarket for 1/3 the price"

I highlighted the key word there for you. And yes, a replica is the same in design, appearance, fitment, etc. That doesn't seem to be that difficult to understand.

Re: the OEM parts/aftermarket, it's not my opinion, I provided examples of two parts that I had in my possession. The parts were identical in every way. The MPerformance front splitter didn't even have BMW or a part # stamped on it. I had to show my invoice to the buyer when I sold it to prove it was a BMW part.

But if you must waste you $ on the OEM rear spoiler, you can buy it online for $481 instead of the $617.

Are you that naive to think that they are all made the same (quality wise)? You dont need to answer but I am sure you will.

There are more pieces of junk flying around compared to quality pieces. Feel free to state othwrwise and keep buying the crap from Ali and ebay...I dont even need to see it in person when I can see it looks like crap in pictures.

I just dont get it...spend $70k plus on the car and then worry about a couple few hundred dollars and cheap out when trying to upgrade the looks and/or performance.

[Carefree]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Are you that naive to think that they are all made the same (quality wise)? You dont need to answer but I am sure you will.

There are more pieces of junk flying around compared to quality pieces. Feel free to state othwrwise and keep buying the crap from Ali and ebay...I dont even need to see it in person when I can see it looks like crap in pictures.

I just dont get it...spend $70k plus on the car and then worry about a couple few hundred dollars and cheap out when trying to upgrade the looks and/or performance.

Don’t bother Rob.
It’s a waste of time.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by Carefree

There is no name calling and you can’t guarantee anything as to what I could or couldn’t identify. Don’t be disingenuous.
Stop here, you’re embarrassing yourself. Buying cheap isn’t an insult, it’s a choice.
I’m done.

You clearly did, it's right up there. Maybe English isn't your native language

Overpaying when you don't have to is also a choice

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by M_Power Rob

Are you that naive to think that they are all made the same (quality wise)? You dont need to answer but I am sure you will.

There are more pieces of junk flying around compared to quality pieces. Feel free to state othwrwise and keep buying the crap from Ali and ebay...I dont even need to see it in person when I can see it looks like crap in pictures.

I just dont get it...spend $70k plus on the car and then worry about a couple few hundred dollars and cheap out when trying to upgrade the looks and/or performance.

There are obviously many different levels of quality out there, this is a strawman argument. Your argument of some poor quality pieces does not equate to all aftermarket pieces are junk, nor does equate to OEM pieces are not junk because they are priced so high. Also neither have anything to do with the assertion that one is "cheaping out" for not paying grossly inflated OEM prices.

Like I said you can pay $617 for the oem spoiler from BMW or you can pay $481 from an online parts seller if you must the OEM spoiler. Or you can buy a replica aftermarket spoiler that is identical for $200.

If you think $2,300 BMW cf mirror caps are any better than $200 cf mirror caps, I don't know what to tell you.

Many who pay $70k for a car, or $100k for a car, or $150k for a car, are able to do so because they don't just throw excess $ around when their are cheaper alternatives. It's really don't as difficult a concept as some are making it out to be.

[keonigt]

What vendor/sites do you guys recommend to buy the aftermarket spoilers for the g87?

[NewToM]

Originally Posted by keonigt

What vendor/sites do you guys recommend to buy the aftermarket spoilers for the g87?

I went with AutoID for my spoiler and could not be happier. It is just a small carbon fiber lip. If you want something bigger, I recently saw the Stradale designs swan neck spoiler and it was nice.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by keonigt

What vendor/sites do you guys recommend to buy the aftermarket spoilers for the g87?

I had an aftermarket rear spoiler on my g20 from Ikon Motorsports (Amazon) that was excellent quality & the paint matched my Portimao Blue perfectly. I also had side skirts & rear diffuser from Ikon as well that were very nice quality & exact copies of M Performance pieces (despite what others claim above). I'm actually waiting for them to offer painted rear spoilers and would buy again.

I've also seen people mention AutoID as a good vendor and their read spoilers are reasonably priced (MPerformance-style $281).

[dmac@HI]

I’ll probably stick with the OEM. I’ve had it on my old 335 and 535, and it looked great. The 335 carbon pieces were on there for over 4 years and never delaminated or changed color. I ‘may’ consider the mirror caps, only because OEM seem excessively high priced for that little of carbon fiber.

[JABCAT]

Originally Posted by dmac@HI

I’ll probably stick with the OEM. I’ve had it on my old 335 and 535, and it looked great. The 335 carbon pieces were on there for over 4 years and never delaminated or changed color. I ‘may’ consider the mirror caps, only because OEM seem excessively high priced for that little of carbon fiber.

I'd recommend covering any cf parts with paint protection film.

[Sculpin]

I never understood the argument that $600 for an OEM part is "ridiculous" for a $70K+ car. I would personally rather buy the part from the manufacturer and not have any concern about fitment/quality and have a warranty. If this was a used WRX then cheap knockoffs from Ali Express would be something I'd be willing to gamble on so I would have more money for vape cartridges. But it's not a used WRX, I don't vape, and I'm not a gambler so I'll go OEM. To some that means I "overpaid" but to me it's worth every penny. Spend your money however you like and do whatever makes you happy.