bimmerpost/
BMW M2 and 2-Series Coupe
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
home
BMW M2 Forums 2023+ (G87) Photos / Videos / Builds / Journals

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-02-2024, 10:00 AM   #1
Mani59
BMW Miniature Collector!
United Kingdom
13496
Rep
7,987
Posts

Drives: E38 735i SE Individual
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Leicestershire

iTrader: (1)

BMW M2 Track Review: Is The M2 TOO Heavy To Be Fun? [Auto Trader UK]

BIMMERPOST
     Featured on BIMMERPOST.com
Rory reviews the M2 on track.

__________________


Visit my (mainly) BMW gallery http://jetone.co.uk
Appreciate 8
      02-04-2024, 08:26 PM   #2
M2siast
Colonel
M2siast's Avatar
Canada
5876
Rep
2,987
Posts

Drives: A Family Sedan
Join Date: May 2023
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2023 BMW M2  [9.67]
Watched this just now on YouTube.

Another good example of why we shouldn’t pay attention to what these people say.

We’re giving people money to go drive a car and tell us what they think of it…

Why don’t we just all pitch in money to send me? At least I know the brakes are 1 piston, and I don’t call piston “pots”, let alone say there are 4 of them…
Appreciate 16
      02-04-2024, 11:47 PM   #3
Kevin_The_Clean1
Brigadier General
Kevin_The_Clean1's Avatar
United_States
3286
Rep
3,929
Posts

Drives: 2020 X3 MC
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Campbell, CA

iTrader: (11)

Great review despite him mentioning the car is a touch on the heavy side. Seeing the car gracefully dance on wet pavement shows the chassis is well sorted. The front knuckles & other various bits from the G80 CS can easily be adapted to make this G87 M2 even sharper / more connected. When he said the M2 has "a face only a mother could love" I certainly had a good chuckle at that statement. If you saw the face of the G80 M3 & compared it to that face, this car is far more attractive. To me anyway & that's just my .02 cents. Granted looks are subjective.

__________________
1998 E36 M3 - Totaled
2003 E39 M5 - Gone but not forgotten
2011 E90 335i M-Sport - Daily Driver
2017 F87 M2 - Sold & missed
2020 F97 X3 M Competition - Finally arrived ///
Appreciate 8
      02-09-2024, 07:33 AM   #4
playswcars
///M-Thusiast
playswcars's Avatar
No_Country
3634
Rep
936
Posts

Drives: '23 X5 M50i
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Zurich

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Spoiler: it isn't.

You don't notice the weight when driving.
__________________
Current: 2023 G05 X5 M50i xDrive
Soon: 2024 G87 M2

Past: G80 M3x, G80 M3, G05 X5, F82 M4, F87 M2C, F20 M140i
Appreciate 9
      02-09-2024, 08:50 AM   #5
ASAP
Major General
ASAP's Avatar
10163
Rep
8,626
Posts

Drives: '23 X3 M40i
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

Probably not too heavy... but the questionable part is how its as heavy as an M3 which is a far larger car... yea same chassis blah blah... but the heavier wheels etc and 0 effort into weight reduction on a far smaller car seem like low efforts altogether.
__________________
2 x N54 -> 1 x N55 -> 1 x S55-> 1 x B58
Appreciate 12
      02-09-2024, 09:08 AM   #6
agentrnge
Lieutenant
382
Rep
487
Posts

Drives: 2018 M3 6MT, 2001 740iL
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Morris County, NJ

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP View Post
Probably not too heavy... but the questionable part is how its as heavy as an M3 which is a far larger car... yea same chassis blah blah... but the heavier wheels etc and 0 effort into weight reduction on a far smaller car seem like low efforts altogether.
This was basically the same scenario with prev gen. Weight delta from F80 vs F87 was smaller than it seems it should have been.
Appreciate 2
      02-09-2024, 09:22 AM   #7
wavyyyy
Captain
1046
Rep
941
Posts

Drives: M2C
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Queens

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2023 bmw m3 6mt  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by FreudeamFahren18 View Post
Dude dont get you knickers up in a twist! This is just pure entertainment and his opinions isn’t the gospel truth either. Geez!
You must be new on the g87 forum
Appreciate 3
      02-09-2024, 09:32 AM   #8
Autobahn SoCal
Performance Driving Coach
Autobahn SoCal's Avatar
United_States
1237
Rep
616
Posts

Drives: 2024 M2 (G87)
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Chris Harris said it best, "if you don't feel the weight who cares?" The faster you drive the G87 the less weight you feel as in all M cars. It's engineered that way on purpose which is why the car feels so much more planted than the F87. (Exactly why Nissan engineers stated the reason for making the GTR so heavy) Some people get so obsessed with the weight of modern cars not thinking that it's there for a reason. Also, don't forget the G87 is essentially a G82 M4 so of course they will weigh about the same since they share all the same parts.
__________________
YouTube Channel - Autobahn SoCal

https://www.youtube.com/autobahnsocal
Appreciate 15
matty_f239.00
M_Torx328.00
Sedan_Clan25116.50
apez649.50
LCDRJohn607.50
manuelf352.00
GuyOh1067.00
F32Fleet3577.00
m20e30871150.00
      02-09-2024, 10:04 AM   #9
matty_f
on restriction from buying more cars
No_Country
239
Rep
186
Posts

Drives: 24 M2, 18 GT3T, 16 LR4, 67 912
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Pasadena, CA

iTrader: (0)

Criticizing the looks is such a basic bitch thing to say. It tells me they prefer cars that follow the traditional wind tunnel aesthetic that plagues most manufacturers and have no eye for creativity or appreciation of the new.

The weight is there and it hides it well. No fun lost for me on canyon runs. But, I’m certain brake pad and tire wear will suffer.
Appreciate 1
Sedan_Clan25116.50
      02-09-2024, 11:05 AM   #10
FrozenGT
Captain
FrozenGT's Avatar
1117
Rep
839
Posts

Drives: 2021 Z4 M40i - Lexus NX300 F
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Ashburn VA

iTrader: (1)

M2 CS is right around the corner.. coming in hot right at $100,000
Appreciate 0
      02-09-2024, 11:31 AM   #11
M_Torx
First Lieutenant
M_Torx's Avatar
Canada
328
Rep
341
Posts

Drives: M
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Ontario

iTrader: (0)

M 2.5 ?
__________________
TTP
Appreciate 3
      02-09-2024, 11:56 AM   #12
aerobod
Car Geek
aerobod's Avatar
3626
Rep
3,594
Posts

Drives: Caterham R500, M2-G87, Macan S
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP View Post
Probably not too heavy... but the questionable part is how its as heavy as an M3 which is a far larger car... yea same chassis blah blah... but the heavier wheels etc and 0 effort into weight reduction on a far smaller car seem like low efforts altogether.
The M2 and M3 are the same width and similar height the main difference is 100mm or so longer floorpan and body metal around it (besides the extra doors), the underlying structure and mechanical components are otherwise the same. In the case of the M4, it is exactly the same width and slightly lower than the M2, the longer floorpan and larger fuel tank in that extra floorpan space is the only significant difference, adding only about 20kg in weight.
Appreciate 3
M2siast5876.00
manuelf352.00
F32Fleet3577.00
      02-09-2024, 11:59 AM   #13
thinking
Enlisted Member
Germany
65
Rep
49
Posts

Drives: BMW M2 G87
Join Date: Jul 2023
Location: Berlin

iTrader: (0)

It hurts to see these jokers sitting in the press cars and bitching about the looks. "A face only a mother could love". Your face is not that different either!

Then bitching about the weight as they stay on race tracks 24/7
Appreciate 7
      02-09-2024, 12:30 PM   #14
ASAP
Major General
ASAP's Avatar
10163
Rep
8,626
Posts

Drives: '23 X3 M40i
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by agentrnge View Post
This was basically the same scenario with prev gen. Weight delta from F80 vs F87 was smaller than it seems it should have been.
correct it was, i owned an F87... except the big difference was than F87 and F80 were far lower in weight... even lower than its predecessors from the e gen
__________________
2 x N54 -> 1 x N55 -> 1 x S55-> 1 x B58
Appreciate 2
      02-09-2024, 02:35 PM   #15
mfarrzhp
Captain
mfarrzhp's Avatar
1491
Rep
901
Posts

Drives: 2018 M3 Competition
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by M2siast View Post
Watched this just now on YouTube.

Another good example of why we shouldn’t pay attention to what these people say.

We’re giving people money to go drive a car and tell us what they think of it…

Why don’t we just all pitch in money to send me? At least I know the brakes are 1 piston, and I don’t call piston “pots”, let alone say there are 4 of them…
Except everyone is stoked for the super positive reviews and trashes the likes of Throttle House for giving a lackluster review.

Weight matters, but it doesn’t mean it can’t be fun. The design is polarizing and I would say more negative overall than positive, but I think it’s a general groupthink against BMW, and the M2 is the least offensive of the new designs. I like the design without the M Performance parts.

I will say, drive a GR86, Cayman or an Exige and you will notice the weight difference, but there is a time and place for lightweight cars and heavier high powered cars.

I was guilty of defending the obscene price delta for CS, it’s worth it to some and not others. The G87 is in a rare league of great performance cars under $80K. Enjoy it. The market will dictate the value in the years to come, and maybe it won’t even matter if you plan to drive the wheels off of it.
Appreciate 7
      02-09-2024, 03:04 PM   #16
Bumpinjeep
Colonel
Bumpinjeep's Avatar
United_States
5533
Rep
2,291
Posts

Drives: 2023 M2
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Redmond, WA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2023 M2  [8.00]
Too heavy?
Short answer: no
Long answer: nope
__________________
Present: 2023 M2 BSM W/Carbon everything, 6 Speed
Past:2020 M2C HS Executive, 6 Speed
Appreciate 1
matty_f239.00
      02-09-2024, 03:57 PM   #17
MNoob
Grand Duke
MNoob's Avatar
United_States
1540
Rep
1,114
Posts

Drives: 2023 M4CSL
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: NorCal

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2024 BMW X3MC  [10.00]
2005 Lotus Elise  [10.00]
2023 BMW M4 CSL  [10.00]
I don’t get the criticism of the M2 design. M3/4 definitely, but I think the new M2 is the best looking current BMW. I love the way it looks.
__________________
2023 M4CSL
2005 Lotus Elise
Appreciate 8
      02-09-2024, 05:15 PM   #18
murderspice
Lieutenant
murderspice's Avatar
588
Rep
440
Posts

Drives: 2018 BMW M2
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Up in your dms

iTrader: (0)

Rory has fallen off since top gear
__________________
Dégouté
Appreciate 2
      02-09-2024, 05:28 PM   #19
micah_675
Second Lieutenant
71
Rep
282
Posts

Drives: 2024 M2
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Georgia

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2024 M2  [0.00]
You know how to stop stupid reviews like this? Don't click the link and do not give them ad revenue. They do this for clickbait, don't give stupid people views and ad money.
Appreciate 4
M2siast5876.00
agentrnge382.00
LCDRJohn607.50
      02-09-2024, 08:38 PM   #20
MDuckie
Private
MDuckie's Avatar
95
Rep
70
Posts

Drives: M2CS
Join Date: May 2018
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

Why are all the G87 owners so butthurt? He wouldn’t shut up about how amazing the G87 is lol. What is there to be mad about?
Appreciate 2
      02-09-2024, 08:57 PM   #21
rkmjr
Private First Class
rkmjr's Avatar
101
Rep
149
Posts

Drives: 2018 M2 ,M & Exe Pkg, MT & MPE
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Enola, PA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
This whole F87 vs G87 has been and is perplexing to me. But it has been fun as I continue to research and view the forums. I have an LCI F87 and love the car. I have it pretty much how I want it. Mineral Gray MT with the wheels I like etc. Somewhat miffed at BMW for releasing the 18' M240 with the B58 but let my 18' LCI with the M modded N55. I got over it.
I do feel that in the looks department, the F87 is better looking, but it is hard to fault the G87 with regard to everything else. Although I am not as "in love" with the G87 aesthetic design, it certainly does not put me off that much. You cannot argue with its performance how it is equipped and the choices you have (which were NOT available with the F87). After all, I owned and Evo 9 MR which is NOT really a good looking car, but performance was hard to beat. I drove it for 3 years and enjoyed it.
So, I am trying to decide whether to get the the last year of the G87 Manuel or stay with the F87 Manuel. A Manuel IS required! At my age, this may be the last new performance car I buy. Looks aren't everything and how it makes you feel is more important from my perspective.
__________________
Just lookin’ to quicken the pace!
Appreciate 4
apez649.50
tbaig79.50
uk0168573.50
      02-09-2024, 09:11 PM   #22
awg87
Private First Class
183
Rep
117
Posts

Drives: G87 M2
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: LA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MDuckie View Post
Why are all the G87 owners so butthurt? He wouldn’t shut up about how amazing the G87 is lol. What is there to be mad about?
they dont watch the video. people need to realize that every yt video title these days HAS to be clickbait
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:44 PM.




g87
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST