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      05-10-2024, 08:57 AM   #1
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M2 vs Nissan Z Nismo -- Edmunds U-Drag Race

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Fun little race!! Nice find. Enjoyable to watch.
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So potent...

Threw me off how he kept saying that. But went about how expected if not actually closer than expected.
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      05-10-2024, 09:25 AM   #4
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Has the Nissan Z ever won any comparison race or articles?
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Just a wasted effort on Nissan's part. Could've been a beast...
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What did they think was going to happen? Under-rated HP vs Over-rated HP.

Even the M240 would put down more power than that Z on the same dyno.
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      05-10-2024, 10:46 AM   #7
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the z is pretty much univerally a piece of junk across the board that nissan failed to deliver with... a 15 year old chassis... great job lol...
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the z is pretty much univerally a piece of junk across the board that nissan failed to deliver with... a 15 year old chassis... great job lol...
They have no money for R&D. Their cars still have the dreaded CVT! They were so good back in the 90s!

They should race a M240 with the Nismo and the M240 will probably win.
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I was a prior Nissan fan owned a few Infiniti red sport 400s owned the Nemo 350 Z when it was built by Altech. Nissan is the same mixing 20-year-old parts with new things and then lying to people.

But Nissan has a hard-core group and a certain income level and they know those people in those income levels who are coming out of old 370 Zs cant wait to get their hands on this car and those are the people unfortunately who gets suckered into buying these things.
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      05-10-2024, 11:15 AM   #10
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They have no money for R&D. Their cars still have the dreaded CVT! They were so good back in the 90s!

They should race a M240 with the Nismo and the M240 will probably win.
Considering how close the M2 and M240 are there's no doubt about it.



Every Nissan/Infiniti I've tested over the last 15 years has felt like an unrefined pile of metal compared to the German and Cadillac competitors.
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That 240 is quick! Is that the B58?
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the z is pretty much univerally a piece of junk across the board that nissan failed to deliver with... a 15 year old chassis... great job lol...
thats not giving nissan enough credit. its a 15 year old chassis with an overrated powerplant that they are deliberately not making enough of to allow dealers to screw over whatever fanbase they have left.

and for context, i also own a Z32 300ZX which i absolutely love, so its hard for me to see them fuck this up so badly.
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I loved the Z of the 90s as a kid and eventually bought the 2003 350Z when it came out still think its a great looking car and it was a blast to drive it handled really well. However the latest generations leave a lot to be desired its a shame as its probably one of the last few remaining true sports cars left. No back seat, front engine RWD, option for manual transmission. I really wanted this one to be great. Even though Im on my 2nd BMW 4 series and Id probably wouldnt buy one, Im still a fan of great sport cars from any manufacturer.
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thats not giving nissan enough credit. its a 15 year old chassis with an overrated powerplant that they are deliberately not making enough of to allow dealers to screw over whatever fanbase they have left.

and for context, i also own a Z32 300ZX which i absolutely love, so its hard for me to see them fuck this up so badly.
i just dont know what they were thinking here outside of our customers are perhaps uneducated

then the dealers thought it was a good idea to put markups on these
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i just dont know what they were thinking here outside of our customers are perhaps uneducated

then the dealers thought it was a good idea to put markups on these
i'll try to dig up the interview, but a nissan product manager basically said straight up they wanted to maintain a "favorable supply-demand situation" and "they never intended to match the production of prior Z cars to keep this limited" aka we did this on a shoestring budget to squeeze every penny out of the 5-10k boomer-era diehards who will pay whatever their dealers ask.

it's sad, but this is the state of affairs in most of the performance car market. also see: GRC, CTR, ITS, and to some extent RS3 etc

edit: found it. https://www.hagerty.com/media/new-ca...st-no-contest/

"Just look at the limited production of the ordinary Z, whose U.S. sales this year totaled just 966 cars through June. Part of that is due to production delays related to semiconductor shortages, as well as a new manufacturing process at Nissan’s factory in Tochigi, Japan, but it’s also a deliberate strategy. “It’s getting harder and harder to make sports cars,” explained Hawson, the product planning director. The days of us making 15 or 25 thousand 350Zs is long gone, which means the Z NISMO is a limited version of a limited car.”'

This pissed me off again just reading it lmfao
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Nissan used to be great! I had a 82 200SX (college car), several Maximas (the 2010 being the worst, and my 99 Maxima SE 5 spd being the best. I then had a 2003 FX45, 2006 M45, 2011 FX50 and my last Nissan product was a 2016 QX80.
They have definitely gone down hill which is unfortunate and I highly doubt they will be back to their full potential.
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Nissan used to be great! I had a 82 200SX (college car), several Maximas (the 2010 being the worst, and my 99 Maxima SE 5 spd being the best. I then had a 2003 FX45, 2006 M45, 2011 FX50 and my last Nissan product was a 2016 QX80.
They have definitely gone down hill which is unfortunate and I highly doubt they will be back to their full potential.
FX50 was probably the last nissan product i'd seriously consider. cool little SUVs. shame that Japan has ceded the performance small SUV market to ze germans en masse.

my mother leased a 2015? QX35 that had the weatherstripping and trim flapping off in the wind before the lease was even up.
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Really enjoyed this video, no negativity re M2, just 2 guys enjoying the cars, so looking forward to my new G87 docking in the UK soon.
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Seems the best cars at this level are both BMWs; G87 M2 and Mk5 Z4pra.
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the z is pretty much univerally a piece of junk across the board that nissan failed to deliver with... a 15 year old chassis... great job lol...
The only thing Nissan has going for them is the GTR and even that is old or getting old really quickly. Nissan and Infiniti are just producing shit cars. Feels like they never grew up after 2010, just stuck there.
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I'm surprised...said no one.
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