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      09-13-2024, 07:09 AM   #1
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Possible to Delay the Run in Service?

I've searched & see many posts about the opposite of what I'm wondering about, hence the post.

Thinking of ordering a G87 & really thinking I might would really enjoy doing a PC delivery, then take a week or so of driving the car from SC to NV...maybe detouring slightly off straight route through Tail-o-the-Dragon territory or whatnot.

The issue is I live 2,000mi from Greer. How stickler is BMW about that 1,200mi RIS marker? Warranty void situation?

As much as I know I'd super enjoy taking delivery of a new car at the PC, I def wouldn't do that at the expense of voiding a warranty.

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It's not advisable to do a long highway road trip to break your car in. It's better to vary your driving as much as possible by doing some backroads, highways, city driving, etc. Heat cycles are also important (turning the car off and cold starting) which I don't suspect you'll be doing much of on a long road trip. Save yourself the headache and rock chips and just go for normal delivery. I don't see BMW making an exception on run in mileage just for you, 1200mi is standard across all M cars and going over significantly could void your warranty.
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I've searched & see many posts about the opposite of what I'm wondering about, hence the post.

Thinking of ordering a G87 & really thinking I might would really enjoy doing a PC delivery, then take a week or so of driving the car from SC to NV...maybe detouring slightly off straight route through Tail-o-the-Dragon territory or whatnot.

The issue is I live 2,000mi from Greer. How stickler is BMW about that 1,200mi RIS marker? Warranty void situation?

As much as I know I'd super enjoy taking delivery of a new car at the PC, I def wouldn't do that at the expense of voiding a warranty.

Thanks!
IIRC been some owners report being late having the RIS done with apparently no negative consequences.

But I wouldn't be late if it can be avoided.

An analysis of the factory fill oil taken from my 2024 BMW 230ix at around 600 miles found the high temperature (100C) viscosity index had dropped from 8.577 (obtained from a sample of the virgin oil) to 7.373.

That alone would cause me to avoid extending the RIS beyond 1200 miles.

You can call ahead and book a RIS at a dealer on your route and pick a dealer close to the point where the odometer will be at 1200 miles.

(With my new 2023 MINI S I had to drive to CA (from ARK) to help a family member who lived in CA. I booked an oil/filter service at the Albuquerque MINI dealer to have an oil/filter service done at around 1200 miles. There was no call for a RIS with the MINI but I like to have the oil/filter changed at close to the end of break in.)

If you insist on driving the car beyond the 1200 miles point with no RIS my advice would be to avoid running the engine above the 6K RPM threshold. I'd hold off on this until after the RIS and the engine has fresh oil.
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You could always hit a dealer on the way home. It only takes a little over an hour to get done. Then you could open it up on the great roads you guys have out west.
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OP wants to do the exact opposite of what BMW recommends for break-in.

Not a good plan OP.
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Find a way to follow the established protocol.
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ill add to the chorus. i wouldnt screw around with this. we talk a lot (maybe too much) about resale around here, and for educated buyers in the secondary market, people will absolutely be sticklers about the RiS being circa 1200 miles.

further, this is not the motor i would want to take a flier on. replacement motor with labor will run you $30,000+. IMHO do yourself a favor and visit the lovely state of SC another time.
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further, this is not the motor i would want to take a flier on. replacement motor with labor will run you $30,000+. IMHO do yourself a favor and visit the lovely state of SC another time.
Also wouldn’t want to be far from home and have the oil cooler or radiator get damaged. It sucks that there are a handful of steps that have to be taken to safeguard a brand new car but it is what it is.

Enclosed-trailer that puppy home from the dealer and get it ready for the road.
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It's not advisable to do a long highway road trip to break your car in. It's better to vary your driving as much as possible by doing some backroads, highways, city driving, etc. Heat cycles are also important (turning the car off and cold starting) which I don't suspect you'll be doing much of on a long road trip. .
I get that. A # of yrs ago I purchased a brand new diesel truck 1k+ miles away from where I live & broke it in over 2 days. Took back roads, stopped often & let the thing cool off etc. Yes, a turbo diesel pickup isn't an M car, but if I were to take delivery of a G87 @ the PC & planned to drive it back to NV, I'd 100% not hit the Interstate, set the cruise at 80 & ride like that for the next 20hrs.

Just thought it'd be cool to take delivery of a car at the PC & have a great story about having done that & drove cross-country breaking in the car along the way home.

Juice might not be worth the squeeze here though. For sure based on feedback I'm getting today (thanks everyone) I would 100% have to sched a RIS at some dealer along the way. Just seems a bit restrictive to buyers as a whole to expect folks to get their car into a dealership, not at 900 miles, not at 1,000miles, not at 1,400 miles, but right on 1,200 mile point.
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not at 900 miles, not at 1,000miles, not at 1,400 miles, but right on 1,200 mile point.
I've heard there is some flexibility, maybe +/- 150mi or so but pushing it to 2000mi would for sure raise some eyebrows at your service center.
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I get that. A # of yrs ago I purchased a brand new diesel truck 1k+ miles away from where I live & broke it in over 2 days. Took back roads, stopped often & let the thing cool off etc. Yes, a turbo diesel pickup isn't an M car, but if I were to take delivery of a G87 @ the PC & planned to drive it back to NV, I'd 100% not hit the Interstate, set the cruise at 80 & ride like that for the next 20hrs.

Just thought it'd be cool to take delivery of a car at the PC & have a great story about having done that & drove cross-country breaking in the car along the way home.

Juice might not be worth the squeeze here though. For sure based on feedback I'm getting today (thanks everyone) I would 100% have to sched a RIS at some dealer along the way. Just seems a bit restrictive to buyers as a whole to expect folks to get their car into a dealership, not at 900 miles, not at 1,000miles, not at 1,400 miles, but right on 1,200 mile point.
theres a few threads kicking around on this. i'd go read but the TL DR is that you can do it early, and early is much preferable to late. its also really about the oil change - the diff fluid swap is important but when they had supply issues with the fluid, dealerships were just changing oil and saying we'll call you when the fluid is back in stock.

if you want to sh*t your pants slightly, ask to see the oil right after this RiS change. more glitter in it than on tits at a rave.
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Bad idea methinks and opposite of what BMW tells you do to.
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I've searched & see many posts about the opposite of what I'm wondering about, hence the post.

Thinking of ordering a G87 & really thinking I might would really enjoy doing a PC delivery, then take a week or so of driving the car from SC to NV...maybe detouring slightly off straight route through Tail-o-the-Dragon territory or whatnot.

The issue is I live 2,000mi from Greer. How stickler is BMW about that 1,200mi RIS marker? Warranty void situation?

As much as I know I'd super enjoy taking delivery of a new car at the PC, I def wouldn't do that at the expense of voiding a warranty.

Thanks!
I believe they give you up to 150 miles beyond the 1200 miles. You will have to stop enroute at another dealer and have the 1200 mile service done.
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It's not advisable to do a long highway road trip to break your car in. It's better to vary your driving as much as possible by doing some backroads, highways, city driving, etc. Heat cycles are also important (turning the car off and cold starting) which I don't suspect you'll be doing much of on a long road trip.
+1 - short trips with occasional bursts of throttle, full cool down, heat cycles are key. Long highway trips are hard no

After 20 or so heat cycles you're 95% there and # of miles is irrelevant. Dyno proven countless times and should be debated any more!
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+1 - short trips with occasional bursts of throttle, full cool down, heat cycles are key. Long highway trips are hard no

After 20 or so heat cycles you're 95% there and # of miles is irrelevant. Dyno proven countless times and should be debated any more!
Ideal maybe but not the only way.

Drove my 2024 JCW 873 miles from the dealer's showroom to home all highway miles over 2 days.

First part of the trip was from Loveland CO south on I25 to I70 then east. On I25 south for some distance traffic was rather congested. Rush hour and road construction. Even after the congestion I was in traffic most of the way to I70 and a bit longer once on I70. Once I got to Limon CO traffic thinned considerably.

So the first ~125 miles resulted considerable varying RPMs and speeds.

East from Limon faced with clear highway while a steady cruising speed was certainly possible I did vary speed/engine RPMs and load by slowing down when traffic permitted it to about 50mph then accelerating up to speed. Would do this a couple of times in succession. Other times I just down shifted to change cruise RPMs.

Into the 2nd day and over 500 miles the engine perked up. It was clear it was breaking in. Got home. Then for the remaining 300+ miles of break in it was via surface street usage.

Had the oil/filter service done -- just on my own no free RIS like the M2 -- at end of break in -- 1200 miles or thereabouts.

JCW engine was fine. It was quiet. Used no oil. Manifested no leaks. Ran like a scalded cat. I've broken in a number of new car engines via the more traditional way. But the JCW was fine after its less traditional break in.

Drove my M2 from the dealer's showroom home covering about 220 miles. Did something similar to what I did with the JCW. (Like the JCW the M2 has a 6-speed manual gearbox.) The trip wasn't long enough for the M2 engine to manifest any real signs of breaking in. Once at home for the rest of its break in miles it was driven on surface streets with an occasional short drive on the freeway.

Over 9K miles on the M2. Engine is fine. Oil consumption nil. No scary engine noises. And a real beast when given the whip.
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Just for curiosity/slight change of my original question....

Anyone know how the 2 permanent PCs handle the new cars they get in for schoolhouse duty? Does the staff get to drive the student M cars around slowly for 1,200 miles, do a RIS, then put them in school service to have the snot beat out of them on the daily?
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