2006 GP of Britain

foofighter · 06-09-2006, 03:32 PM

Take your pick:

1st: Alonso
2nd: Button
3rd: Schumi Sr.

Dark horse: Kimi

This is a track that like everyone else should know intimately as they test there...and it's a good fast circuit that requires good mechanical grip so that they dont have to run as much downforce. Tires of course will be key at this track as well.

txusa03 · 06-09-2006, 04:03 PM

1 alonso
2 schumi
2 JV

how many good passing zone on this track?

obLu · 06-09-2006, 04:21 PM

Before watching practice this morning, I would've given it to Schumi with Alonso close 2nd. I'm thinking this one'll be the other way around now. 3rd is anybody's guess, but I know who won't be there ... Jensen, he's already publicly given up before he started.

Is it just me or does this season seem a little strange? Either Alonso's really worried about Schumi or he's regretting his switch to the dark side next year. He doesn't seem to be taking any joy out of his wins this season, just heads down, get the job done.

foofighter · 06-09-2006, 04:22 PM

not many...there's a spot at Bridge, Brooklands and drafting down the main straight.

The complex of left rights at maggots, becketts, and chapel are fun to watch and must be exciting as hell for the drivers going full tilt boogie. Maybe an overtaking chances at Stowe as you brake for the right hander.

foofighter · 06-09-2006, 04:24 PM

i think alonso's maturing as a driver and realizes that it's not all about the win but more consistency that wins championships...so with that, yah he's all business.

Friday practice is jsut that practice i wouldnt bet money on any of the results based on Friday's practice. some teams like to show off to the sponsors and get some air time by running light fuel and topping the charts. while the front runners are busy setting up their car for the race.

obLu · 06-09-2006, 04:32 PM

Yeah, does anyone pay attention to the friday driver time's anymore? I'm just concerned that Schumi might be on the ragged edge with both his little offs. Doesn't seem like him to push that hard on a friday ... starting to suspect they might've been caught out a little bit.

Curious to see what happens over the engine freeze. I'm not happy about it as a fan, I can't imagine how the manufacturers feel about it. Do they keep competing as a marketing strategy or move to a different series for engineering knowledge?

Ghunger · 06-09-2006, 05:47 PM

Well, both Alonso and Fisi went off in practice also. There were some great shots of them doing 4 wheel drifts and ending up in the grass, shortcutting the corner. I forget which corner it was off hand. Should be an interesting race. Hopefully there are no qualifying "incedents"

Ghunger · 06-09-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by obLu

Yeah, does anyone pay attention to the friday driver time's anymore? I'm just concerned that Schumi might be on the ragged edge with both his little offs. Doesn't seem like him to push that hard on a friday ... starting to suspect they might've been caught out a little bit.

Curious to see what happens over the engine freeze. I'm not happy about it as a fan, I can't imagine how the manufacturers feel about it. Do they keep competing as a marketing strategy or move to a different series for engineering knowledge?

I guess I just don't follow about the engine freeze beign a bad thing. I think this could possibly be one of the best things MM has done. Like he mentioned about the worthlessness of research in making engines go 200rpm faster each year for so much money. If you look at the top teams, they all independently develop their engines, yet they're almost identical in terms of output and economy. Why not just freeze the development in this area, which has no practical use, and redirect that research and development into areas that the manufacturers can practically use on real cars. It also seems like the ability to use this energy storage system they're talking about, as a "push to pass" button could make for more interesting racing as well. A lot of it depends on the details of how they work out the rules though, so we'll have to wait and see.

foofighter · 06-09-2006, 07:03 PM

personally i want to see the flat bottoms come back...they were able to slice and dice at close quarters without fear of loosing downforce. Bring it back and let's see passing on the track!!!!

obLu · 06-09-2006, 07:16 PM

For me, F1 boils down to knowning the bleeding edge of technology is there in the cars I'm watching. The racing is almost secondary for me. And engine freeze brings the pinnacle of racing technology closer to a "spec" series in my eyes. Which if I want to watch one of those, there are plenty of others.

I'd rather see it go the other way, let the teams go absolutely hog wild with no restrictions besides it has to have 4 wheels .... and even let that be up for debate like the 6 wheel Tyrell. Absolutely bring back less arbitrary aero, I don't remember "aero wash" being a problem back in the day.

But that's just me. I understand it's a business endevour and that closer racing means more viewers/fans. Sorry, push to pass just smack of WWF/Nascar staged antics.

foofighter · 06-09-2006, 07:23 PM

Bernie and Co try so hard to make this into a spectacle and more competitive when all their doing is stiffling the development of automotive technology. Remember back in the day of Mansell/Senna/Prost with their full active and automatic cars? the racing was close, competitive and exciting to watch. I still remember the dicing that senna and prost did in Kayalama circuit...what a rush.

F1 like you said is the PINNACLE of motor racing...let it be that and let them do what they need to to be competitive...the rest will catch up. I just thought of something, instead of putting a cap on certain things why not put a cap on their budget? like say...(this is arbitrary) $500 million per season. then that way they decide what and where they spend their money on.

foofighter · 06-10-2006, 01:48 PM

what a qualifier! should be a great race! The BMW's are in good shape in terms of speed but seem a bit dodgy going through the complex of corners.

txusa03 · 06-12-2006, 02:26 PM

Too bad I missed the start. F1 start is alway my favorite part of the race when everyone is jocking for posisition. There you go, alonso and schumi again. Nice to see heinfeld and JV finish with some points.It was a pretty unevenful races beside the pitstop to see how many posisition the gain or lost with the stop. I did not know these cars had electronic traction control. I thought it was the wing and setup that created the downforce to keep the car from flying. I guess these racing machines are loaded with all sort of electronic goodies...

Wonder where JPM will go next season.

foofighter · 06-12-2006, 02:29 PM

he'll go back to champ cars LOL the race was BORING man...after that start really nothing special happened other than michael passing kimi in the pits

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foofighter Captain 72 Rep 840 Posts Drives: 2017 TRD Off Road 4r - 2018 M3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: The OC iTrader: (1)	2006 GP of Britain Take your pick: 1st: Alonso 2nd: Button 3rd: Schumi Sr. Dark horse: Kimi This is a track that like everyone else should know intimately as they test there...and it's a good fast circuit that requires good mechanical grip so that they dont have to run as much downforce. Tires of course will be key at this track as well.
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txusa03 Major General 601 Rep 6,563 Posts Drives: TS330iPPSP6MT Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Planet Earth iTrader: (3)	1 alonso 2 schumi 2 JV how many good passing zone on this track?
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obLu Major 57 Rep 1,159 Posts Drives: 330i 6MT ZSP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Kirkland, WA, USA iTrader: (1)	Before watching practice this morning, I would've given it to Schumi with Alonso close 2nd. I'm thinking this one'll be the other way around now. 3rd is anybody's guess, but I know who won't be there ... Jensen, he's already publicly given up before he started. Is it just me or does this season seem a little strange? Either Alonso's really worried about Schumi or he's regretting his switch to the dark side next year. He doesn't seem to be taking any joy out of his wins this season, just heads down, get the job done.
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foofighter Captain 72 Rep 840 Posts Drives: 2017 TRD Off Road 4r - 2018 M3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: The OC iTrader: (1)	not many...there's a spot at Bridge, Brooklands and drafting down the main straight. The complex of left rights at maggots, becketts, and chapel are fun to watch and must be exciting as hell for the drivers going full tilt boogie. Maybe an overtaking chances at Stowe as you brake for the right hander.
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foofighter Captain 72 Rep 840 Posts Drives: 2017 TRD Off Road 4r - 2018 M3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: The OC iTrader: (1)	i think alonso's maturing as a driver and realizes that it's not all about the win but more consistency that wins championships...so with that, yah he's all business. Friday practice is jsut that practice i wouldnt bet money on any of the results based on Friday's practice. some teams like to show off to the sponsors and get some air time by running light fuel and topping the charts. while the front runners are busy setting up their car for the race.
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obLu Major 57 Rep 1,159 Posts Drives: 330i 6MT ZSP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Kirkland, WA, USA iTrader: (1)	Yeah, does anyone pay attention to the friday driver time's anymore? I'm just concerned that Schumi might be on the ragged edge with both his little offs. Doesn't seem like him to push that hard on a friday ... starting to suspect they might've been caught out a little bit. Curious to see what happens over the engine freeze. I'm not happy about it as a fan, I can't imagine how the manufacturers feel about it. Do they keep competing as a marketing strategy or move to a different series for engineering knowledge?
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foofighter Captain 72 Rep 840 Posts Drives: 2017 TRD Off Road 4r - 2018 M3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: The OC iTrader: (1)	personally i want to see the flat bottoms come back...they were able to slice and dice at close quarters without fear of loosing downforce. Bring it back and let's see passing on the track!!!!
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obLu Major 57 Rep 1,159 Posts Drives: 330i 6MT ZSP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Kirkland, WA, USA iTrader: (1)	For me, F1 boils down to knowning the bleeding edge of technology is there in the cars I'm watching. The racing is almost secondary for me. And engine freeze brings the pinnacle of racing technology closer to a "spec" series in my eyes. Which if I want to watch one of those, there are plenty of others. I'd rather see it go the other way, let the teams go absolutely hog wild with no restrictions besides it has to have 4 wheels .... and even let that be up for debate like the 6 wheel Tyrell. Absolutely bring back less arbitrary aero, I don't remember "aero wash" being a problem back in the day. But that's just me. I understand it's a business endevour and that closer racing means more viewers/fans. Sorry, push to pass just smack of WWF/Nascar staged antics.
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foofighter Captain 72 Rep 840 Posts Drives: 2017 TRD Off Road 4r - 2018 M3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: The OC iTrader: (1)	Bernie and Co try so hard to make this into a spectacle and more competitive when all their doing is stiffling the development of automotive technology. Remember back in the day of Mansell/Senna/Prost with their full active and automatic cars? the racing was close, competitive and exciting to watch. I still remember the dicing that senna and prost did in Kayalama circuit...what a rush. F1 like you said is the PINNACLE of motor racing...let it be that and let them do what they need to to be competitive...the rest will catch up. I just thought of something, instead of putting a cap on certain things why not put a cap on their budget? like say...(this is arbitrary) $500 million per season. then that way they decide what and where they spend their money on.
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foofighter Captain 72 Rep 840 Posts Drives: 2017 TRD Off Road 4r - 2018 M3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: The OC iTrader: (1)	what a qualifier! should be a great race! The BMW's are in good shape in terms of speed but seem a bit dodgy going through the complex of corners.
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txusa03 Major General 601 Rep 6,563 Posts Drives: TS330iPPSP6MT Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Planet Earth iTrader: (3)	Too bad I missed the start. F1 start is alway my favorite part of the race when everyone is jocking for posisition. There you go, alonso and schumi again. Nice to see heinfeld and JV finish with some points.It was a pretty unevenful races beside the pitstop to see how many posisition the gain or lost with the stop. I did not know these cars had electronic traction control. I thought it was the wing and setup that created the downforce to keep the car from flying. I guess these racing machines are loaded with all sort of electronic goodies... Wonder where JPM will go next season.
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foofighter Captain 72 Rep 840 Posts Drives: 2017 TRD Off Road 4r - 2018 M3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: The OC iTrader: (1)	he'll go back to champ cars LOL the race was BORING man...after that start really nothing special happened other than michael passing kimi in the pits
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