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      07-18-2005, 10:28 PM   #1
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Key memory: Second-rate North America?

Can anyone tell me why North America has to wait for the key memory function! It works in Europe and I can't imagine that there needs to be another software for NA?!

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      07-18-2005, 10:33 PM   #2
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I don't know what you mean by it not being available. There is a lot of confusion on this subject. Key Memory is the association of many of the car's settings with the key that is in use at the time the settings were made. This IS available for many functions like station presets, seat positions, AC settings and many more. Try it: use one key and set many of these options, then use another and you'll find that the settings are different. Change the settings while the second key is in use then switch to using the first key. All your original settings will be there. This is Key Memory in action.

There have been some spottiness in dealer ability to program additional features into the car (like daytime running lights). When these settings are programmed into the car by the dealer, they are associated with the key you give them with the car. That's why they dealers refer to it as "key programming". When a dealer can't program a certain feature, they tell the customer that they are waiting for a software updte to be able to do "key programming". This is the source of the confusion. It is worth noting that my dealer has been able to do this after receiving an update from BMW.

So, Key Memory comes with all cars and is functional.
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      07-18-2005, 10:36 PM   #3
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Right, but I don't care if my wife likes the temp settings of the A/C 1° warmer than me. I am really pissed of that I have to adjust my power seats after she was driving! A feature which really makes sense if you have a key memory function, right?!
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As I said above, seat position is included. Save your seat position when your key is in use and have your wife save hers with her key. Then when you get into the car, press the seat memory button and you'll get your seat position back.
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      07-18-2005, 10:57 PM   #5
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I am sorry - this is definitively NOT working in my car! I have tried everything, but while the radio channel is changed, the seat position is not!
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      07-18-2005, 11:16 PM   #6
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Do you have seat memory buttons in your car? I am not saying that the seats will go to their positions automatically upon changing keys; you need to use the seat memory buttons. When you store seat positions using the seat memory keys, do they get deleted when your wife uses her key?

The car is supposed to provide 2 saved seat/mirror settings for every key. You save and recall them by using the seat memory buttons on the side of your seat.

And, if that really doesn't work in your car, you can use one of the memory buttons for you and one for her
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      07-18-2005, 11:38 PM   #7
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Is this ment by "automatic adjustment of the drives's seat and the exterior mirrors after unlocking" as written in the Owner's Manual?
Where is the automatic adjustment of the drivers seat when only the buttons are adjusted?!
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I believe this is selectable as an option if you have iDrive. If you don't, the dealer has to do it. This could be one more thing they can't do yet and they're waiting for an update as I said in my first post (like some of them can't do daytime running lights).

But my point was that it is not accurate to say that Key Memory is not available in NA when a large number of settings are indeed saved and change when they key changes.
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      07-19-2005, 12:12 AM   #9
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Great that we agree, but that brings me back to my initial question, why does NA needs another software then Europe? Is Europe using Linux and NA Microsoft? When I did a testdrive of the E90 in Europe in March , automatic adjustment of the drives's seat worked (at least in this car)! So has anyone any information?
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Great that we agree, but that brings me back to my initial question, why does NA needs another software then Europe? Is Europe using Linux and NA Microsoft? When I did a testdrive of the E90 in Europe in March , automatic adjustment of the drives's seat worked (at least in this car)! So has anyone any information?
Did that car have iDrive?
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It's because they have to pay so much more for their cars in Europe...

No, seriously, the seat memory does work in my car, so perhaps it is a software problem. It is helpful to have your wife use the second key remote though, because I think that the key remembers what seat postion (1 or 2) was last used with it. My wife is "trained" to press #1 on the seat when she exits the car anyway. On both keys, we have me set as memory #1, and her as memory #2 for the seats. Usually she uses her key, and when she opens the door with it, the seat automatically remember that she last used seating position 2.

Of course, you could use both 1 and 2 for yourself on your key, and 1 and 2 for her on her key, but if you ever trade keys, you will have a problem. (and not too many people need 2 seating positions).

Hopefully it is just software and you can get this fixed ASAP. My car is going in tomorrow due to the fog lights not working, so don't feel bad. I think that problem is software related too because when I disconnected the battery lead, and reconnected it, the fog lights started working for a while and then stopped again.
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I think he wants the seat to move automatically when he uses his key to open or start the car. I think this is mentioned in the manual. I believe this is an option settable through iDrive and the dealers are either not yet capable of setting turning this on in non-iDrive cars, or they are just incompetent.

However, it's not a big deal to utilize the memory keys.

BTW, I have two seat memory positions stored, one for aggressive driving and one for leisurely cruising
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      07-19-2005, 11:57 AM   #13
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Uh ... my e46's remembered the last position the seat was in when that key was used *without* having to press the seat memory button. You could have the memory set, but you could have the seat wherever you wanted and if you locked the car with that key, it remembered that seat position. Next time you unlocked the car with that key, the seat went back.

Is that not how the e90 works anymore? That's kind of a retarded feature to leave out on a new car. Both my current Audi's remember the seat position too.

Can't see why it wouldn't work that way.
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Uh ... my e46's remembered the last position the seat was in when that key was used *without* having to press the seat memory button. You could have the memory set, but you could have the seat wherever you wanted and if you locked the car with that key, it remembered that seat position. Next time you unlocked the car with that key, the seat went back.

Is that not how the e90 works anymore? That's kind of a retarded feature to leave out on a new car. Both my current Audi's remember the seat position too.

Can't see why it wouldn't work that way.
That's the way mine works, yes. But I was just saying maybe he is using the same remote for himself and his wife, and she is leaving the seat in position 2 (or her position) and locking the car, and then maybe he takes the same key and gets in and it is remembering the last position his wife had... Just a thought. If you are using the same key, and she leaves the seat in a certain position, it will be in the same position when he gets in using the same key.

If they are using different keys, then he has a software problem.
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BTW, I have two seat memory positions stored, one for aggressive driving and one for leisurely cruising
I heard that.
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BTW, I have two seat memory positions stored, one for aggressive driving and one for leisurely cruising
I considered doing this, but then, I always drive aggressively so I didn't bother!
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maybe it has something to do with this:

"For US owners only
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Uh ... my e46's remembered the last position the seat was in when that key was used *without* having to press the seat memory button. You could have the memory set, but you could have the seat wherever you wanted and if you locked the car with that key, it remembered that seat position. Next time you unlocked the car with that key, the seat went back.

Is that not how the e90 works anymore? That's kind of a retarded feature to leave out on a new car. Both my current Audi's remember the seat position too.

Can't see why it wouldn't work that way.
Sigh... I guess no one reads anymore

The answer to your question is above your post.
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Here are two pictures that show how you can set the auto seat adjustment behavior using iDrive. As usual, if you don't have iDrive the dealer has to set it for you. Dealers may still be waiting for software to allow them to do it. That is, the cars can do it, but the software the dealer uses to program the car might not be there yet.

Here the option shown and disabled:


This shows the various settings that you can choose for this option:
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I think he wants the seat to move automatically when he uses his key to open or start the car. I think this is mentioned in the manual. I believe this is an option settable through iDrive and the dealers are either not yet capable of setting turning this on in non-iDrive cars, or they are just incompetent.

However, it's not a big deal to utilize the memory keys.

BTW, I have two seat memory positions stored, one for aggressive driving and one for leisurely cruising
OK, you guys are driving me insane. The key memory for the seats is not currently supported (if yours works, you're just lucky). However, it has nothing to do with iDrive. It comes with power seats. Of course we know we can push the memory buttons on the seat - stop equating that with "automatic". If I have to push a button it's not automatic. Might as well say "get in, use the directional controls to adjust the seat to a comfortable positon" and call that automatic. Granted, one button is better, but we're all waiting for the software update that will enable the key memory for the seat. Worked great in my Passat W8 and I want it in my BMW.

You do raise a good point, however, about the other functions. I recently got my satellite radio installed and the wife and I took a drive. She drove (using her key) while I rode shotgun and preset a bunch of Sirius stations. I was aghast on Monday when I pushed the presets and there were no stations there - so obviously the memory for presets is working - and I think it also does for the climate control. So, I've learned something (and at my age, go figure).

Last I heard there is an expected software update for the US in September that should enable the key memory for the seats, and perhaps the DRL option.
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LEDZEP,

I don't know how you can say it has nothing to do with iDrive. Look at the pictures above. You can set it with iDrive and it works. If you don't have iDrive, the dealer has to set it. That might not be available at this time until dealers get the software to set it.

God I feel like a broken record

Also, DRL was programmed in my car by the dealer about a month ago. See pictures in the following thread:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...4647#post24647

I feel like a broken record on this one too
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      07-19-2005, 09:25 PM   #22
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Seats, mirrors etc. automatically move in my e90 with each FOB. I have iDrive, but this was the way it was set when i picked up my 330i.

Not sure what's going on out there, maybe some of the cars need updates, but mine works just fine.

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