Newbie Question About Sport Package/Suspension

MontegoGoGoGo · 03-24-2009, 04:41 PM

The loaner I have is the same car as mine, but doesn't have the Sport's Package.

My question is, do the cars with the sport's package sit lower?

Loaner seems to be quite a bit higher and doesn't scrape my driveway.

Thanks!

methodtim · 03-24-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MontegoGoGoGo

The loaner I have is the same car as mine, but doesn't have the Sport's Package.

My question is, do the cars with the sport's package sit lower?

All coupes have the same suspension, sports package or not.

canucklion · 03-24-2009, 04:45 PM

yes. except xDrive models.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontegoGoGoGo

The loaner I have is the same car as mine, but doesn't have the Sport's Package.

My question is, do the cars with the sport's package sit lower?

Loaner seems to be quite a bit higher and doesn't scrape my driveway.

Thanks!

MontegoGoGoGo · 03-24-2009, 04:45 PM

Does a car w/o sport's package sit higher than one with?

I have E93, same as coupes?

ragingclue · 03-24-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by canucklion

yes. except xDrive models.

xDrive verts?

MontegoGoGoGo · 03-24-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by canucklion

yes. except xDrive models.

OK, cool, thanks! You have been very nice lately Lion. Must be the infractions!

I appreciate your help.

methodtim · 03-24-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MontegoGoGoGo

Does a car w/o sport's package sit higher than one with?

I have E93, same as coupes?

Like canuck said, the only cars that sit higher are the xdrives. Yes, a vert is a coupe.

canucklion · 03-24-2009, 04:47 PM

actually I haven't gotten any infractions in a long while now

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Originally Posted by MontegoGoGoGo

OK, cool, thanks! You have been very nice lately Lion. Must be the infractions!

I appreciate your help.

MontegoGoGoGo · 03-24-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by methodtim

Like canuck said, the only cars that sit higher are the xdrives. Yes, a vert is a coupe.

That is so weird, I swear my loaner is higher. I will have to measure! But I believe ya!

canucklion · 03-24-2009, 04:50 PM

she didn't mention which E9x she got as a loaner so I made a general qualifier stating that all zsp-equipped cars sit lower than non zsp-equipped cars except for xDrive models. zsp-equipped xDrive models don't come with sport suspension. And as Tim said, all non xDrive E92 have the same zsp suspension.

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Originally Posted by ragingclue

xDrive verts?

MontegoGoGoGo · 03-24-2009, 04:54 PM

OK, wait - sorry. I'm confused....I thought Lion said yes they are lower, and Tim said no, they are all the same, besides x-drive.

So the sport's package equipped cars (excluding x-drive models) DO sit lower?

Yes/No.

Sorry for the confusion.

canucklion · 03-24-2009, 05:01 PM

E90, non-zsp sits higher than zsp as only the zsp-equipped E90s come with sport suspension.

E91, there's only one version in North America, 328 xDrive, so only one ride height.

E92, regardless of zsp or not, same height as sport suspension is standard, except on xDrive.

E93, non-zsp sits higher than zsp as only the zsp-equipped E93s come with sport suspension.

All xDrive models that are equipped with zsp do not have the sport suspension, they only have the zsp steering wheel and sport seats.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontegoGoGoGo

OK, wait - sorry. I'm confused....

So the sport's package equipped cars (excluding x-drive models) DO sit lower?

Yes/No.

Sorry for the confusion.

methodtim · 03-24-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by canucklion

E90, non-zsp sits higher than zsp as only the zsp-equipped E90s come with sport suspension.

E91, there's only one version in North America, 328 xDrive, so only one ride height.

E92, regardless of zsp or not, same height as sport suspension is standard, except on xDrive.

E93, non-zsp sits higher than zsp as only the zsp-equipped E93s come with sport suspension.

All xDrive models that are equipped with zsp do not have the sport suspension, they only have the zsp steering wheel and sport seats.

I am the conveyor of faulty info. I just checked on-line and Canuck is damn straight right again. Listen to this boy.

MontegoGoGoGo · 03-24-2009, 05:07 PM

Crystal clear now. Thanks to all!

Kilgore Trout · 03-25-2009, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canucklion

E90, non-zsp sits higher than zsp as only the zsp-equipped E90s come with sport suspension.

E91, there's only one version in North America, 328 xDrive, so only one ride height.
E92, regardless of zsp or not, same height as sport suspension is standard, except on xDrive.

E93, non-zsp sits higher than zsp as only the zsp-equipped E93s come with sport suspension.

All xDrive models that are equipped with zsp do not have the sport suspension, they only have the zsp steering wheel and sport seats.

This is incorrect. The E91 can be ordered without xDrive (in fact, I have a 2009 E91 RWD). It can be ordered with the sport supsension too.

The sportwagon in the previous generation, and current 5-series wagon, can only be ordered with xdrive though.

ragingclue · 03-25-2009, 09:05 AM

There's some useful info in this thread.

canucklion · 03-25-2009, 09:10 AM

BMW Canada only offers 1 E91 variant; I had assumed it was the same South of the border.

Here's the general rule of thumb: ride height (going from highest to lowest) = xDrive (aka xi) > regular suspension > sport suspension.

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Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout

This is incorrect. The E91 can be ordered without xDrive (in fact, I have a 2009 E91 RWD). It can be ordered with the sport supsension too.

The sportwagon in the previous generation, and current 5-series wagon, can only be ordered with xdrive though.

Kilgore Trout · 03-25-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by canucklion

BMW Canada only offers 1 E91 variant; I had assumed it was the same South of the border.

Here's the general rule of thumb: ride height (going from highest to lowest) = xDrive (aka xi) > regular suspension > sport suspension.

Well, either way, I appreciate all the useful info, Canucklion, and think your confusion on this issue was totally understandable. I'm certain the last generation only offered Xi wagons both north and south of the border.

Personally, I never understood the assumption that all wagon owners wanted Xi. Not everybody who needs a wagon to haul family, sports stuff, house supplies, etc also needs AWD.

PNF · 03-25-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by methodtim

All coupes have the same suspension, sports package or not.

really?!

I thought SPP on E92 offers different suspension from non-SPP E92s.

thats nice to know

good info by canucks.

thanks

92tripleblack · 03-25-2009, 12:31 PM

And, if i undersand correctly, the rear suspension is different on the vert in terms of spring rates due to the extra weight. This is why they don't selll the performance suspension upgrade for the vert from BMW and why there are different versions of aftermarket suspension for verts than coupes.

canucklion · 03-25-2009, 12:35 PM

I agree that BMWNA assumes too much. Plus I guess they thought once you opt for a wagon, you wouldn't want the power of the twin turbo I6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout

Personally, I never understood the assumption that all wagon owners wanted Xi. Not everybody who needs a wagon to haul family, sports stuff, house supplies, etc also needs AWD.

92tripleblack · 03-25-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by canucklion

I agree that BMWNA assumes too much. Plus I guess they thought once you opt for a wagon, you wouldn't want the power of the twin turbo I6

Numbers game. They probably had some bean counters determine that they would be ordered so infrequently that they wouldn't be economical to build and offer.
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