S4 or 335i?

AlecX5 · 07-27-2006, 12:35 AM

Ok, I've been driving 3 series Bimmers for over 10 years. My current lease is running out and I thought I'd check out the Audi. Got to say, fun car. Awesome engine. Sweet interior, incredibly well make 4 door sports sedan in all repects. Then I ask for some lease rates. I get a quote of $1000 month.

(36 month, 12K year). WTF! Crazy number. Christ, I could have a 550i for that rate. My local BMW dealer is saying a 335i with the options I want is going to be $48,700. (Sport, Prem, Nav, CA, Cold). I haven't even talked to him about lease rates, but I know it's going to be less than $700. What's Audi smoken these days? Have any of you owned an S4? Curious about the car. I really did like it until I got that quote.

Thanks
AS

foofighter · 07-27-2006, 12:45 AM

S4's are great torque monster (obviously), but in this day and age with the way gas prices are and with that thing averaging ~19 mpg? add to that your lease payment of 1k/mo does not equate. Plus, it's a big heavy sedan, i've driven my fair share of 1st and 2nd gen A4's and you'd have to plunk a lot of money into that thing to make it fast.

But if you've never owned one, do a 2yr lease

, it's a good thing you're leasing because in a little over a year, they're going to replace that w the 08 B8 A4/S4...that's just shitty IMO shafting your own customer base and killing their resale value.

monolith · 07-27-2006, 12:45 AM

Isn't the S4 $55K?

zamboni · 07-27-2006, 01:14 AM

By the time you added the Sat radio and the S4 quadro is more than $62K.

Ryan 330i · 07-27-2006, 01:15 AM

the lease rates suck really bad. email me what you want and ill run a lease for you at the buy rate.

with the S4 the risidual is so-so, but the money factor is through the roof, then dealers mark it up hense a 1k payment.

like i said email me the MSRP of the car you want, miles a year, and drive off, and ill run a lease with no mark ups.

just4kickz · 07-27-2006, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan 330i

the lease rates suck really bad. email me what you want and ill run a lease for you at the buy rate.

with the S4 the risidual is so-so, but the money factor is through the roof, then dealers mark it up hense a 1k payment.

like i said email me the MSRP of the car you want, miles a year, and drive off, and ill run a lease with no mark ups.

ur in SF but u work in paly? thats like a 30 minutes commute?

Crazy Bimmer · 07-27-2006, 01:45 AM

I driven an S4 and i personally have more fun in a 330i.

If it was my choice, i would go with the 335i and this is coming from an Audi owner.

NFS · 07-27-2006, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AS

Ok, I've been driving 3 series Bimmers for over 10 years. My current lease is running out and I thought I'd check out the Audi. Got to say, fun car. Awesome engine. Sweet interior, incredibly well make 4 door sports sedan in all repects. Then I ask for some lease rates. I get a quote of $1000 month.

(36 month, 12K year). WTF! Crazy number. Christ, I could have a 550i for that rate. My local BMW dealer is saying a 335i with the options I want is going to be $48,700. (Sport, Prem, Nav, CA, Cold). I haven't even talked to him about lease rates, but I know it's going to be less than $700. What's Audi smoken these days? Have any of you owned an S4? Curious about the car. I really did like it until I got that quote.

Thanks
AS

S4 - NO

RS4 - YES

RaptorKTM · 07-27-2006, 03:58 AM

i say go s4

Hula-Hula · 07-27-2006, 05:54 AM

I say go 550i!

Dev330 · 07-27-2006, 06:11 AM

On a BMW forum you will always get a bias opinion, but truthfully driven an S4 and it definitely lacks especially when compared to its competition, even raced two one conv and sedan in my 330 and managed to get away

, as mentioned previously RS4 all the way, but an S4 the thought would not even cross my mind!!! BMW all the way

even though my second car is a Merc

mimmitt · 07-27-2006, 06:50 AM

I'm not going to suggest that BMW's offer Honda-type reliability, but you may want poke around and read up on Audi's reliability record. It ain't pretty....

txusa03 · 07-27-2006, 06:51 AM

I don't know much about audi, but what about free maintenance and ease of modding.

mkoesel · 07-27-2006, 07:13 AM

S4 = AWD only. If you need or want AWD for some reason, get the S4, because it will probably be a lot better in the twisties than a 335xi.

Otherwise, 335i ZSP all the way my friend.

Jch330 · 07-27-2006, 07:23 AM

That is complete crap, I have had an S4 and my family got another one as an extra car because they loved mine so much. You should pay 750 max i would say, i know we got good deals bc we have had 5 audis in the last 5 years or so but 1000 is complete crap

whippersnapper · 07-27-2006, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foofighter

they're going to replace that w the 08 B8 A4/S4...that's just shitty IMO shafting your own customer base and killing their resale value.

Yeah just like BMW shit canning the 330 after 1 year

Jch330 · 07-27-2006, 07:58 AM

The S4 > 330, but i would say maybe 335 (coupe) >S4. I do not believe for a second though that a 330 sedan beat an S4 sedan, the person had to be asleep at the wheel because it is so much easier to launch with all wheel drive, and even the auto is 0-60 in 5.5 or 5.4

ACZakka325i · 07-27-2006, 08:15 AM

I like the S4, though i dont know if i would buy one over a comperable BMW if i had the money. What i will tell you is that a lot of my freinds audis are falling apart after a few years. For example the little screen between the rpm and MPH gauges looks like a messed up nintendo game (if you know what i mean), other things like the leather delaminating from the center arm rest, the arm rest not staying into one position, oh yea and it sounds like its going to blow up at idle and its like 4 years old! I dont know, i think build quiality is somthing i will consider more seriously from now on.

Hotan Braskey · 07-27-2006, 08:25 AM

Yeah, a 330i killing an S4 doesn't seem right. I have driven both, and the S4 definitely has the edge in terms of straight-line speed. In the turns it MAY be different because the S4 weighs so much, but the 330i is no lightweight, either. Also $1000/mo. is a complete show. You should be able to get a lease for around $800-something per month.

Ryan 330i · 07-27-2006, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by just4kickz

ur in SF but u work in paly? thats like a 30 minutes commute?

thats why i have to drive S4s and Q7's so i dont put miles on my E90!

Ryan 330i · 07-27-2006, 08:39 AM

who said RS4??

MrSilver · 07-27-2006, 08:41 AM

I looked into the S4 as well. I currently drive the TT.

I was quoted 850 p/m with 3,500 down. I still think that is WAY too much for the vehicle.

As for getting a 335i for under 700 p/m, I seriously doubt that will happen until the MY2008 comes out.

My dealer has told me to expect a mid 700s lease rate for my 335i. I'm probably just going to buy the car.

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AlecX5 Lifetime Bimmer Fanatic 142 Rep 173 Posts Drives: 2023 BMW X5 40i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Minneapolis iTrader: (0)	S4 or 335i? Ok, I've been driving 3 series Bimmers for over 10 years. My current lease is running out and I thought I'd check out the Audi. Got to say, fun car. Awesome engine. Sweet interior, incredibly well make 4 door sports sedan in all repects. Then I ask for some lease rates. I get a quote of $1000 month. (36 month, 12K year). WTF! Crazy number. Christ, I could have a 550i for that rate. My local BMW dealer is saying a 335i with the options I want is going to be $48,700. (Sport, Prem, Nav, CA, Cold). I haven't even talked to him about lease rates, but I know it's going to be less than $700. What's Audi smoken these days? Have any of you owned an S4? Curious about the car. I really did like it until I got that quote. Thanks AS
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foofighter Captain 67 Rep 840 Posts Drives: 2017 TRD Off Road 4r - 2018 M3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: The OC iTrader: (1)	S4's are great torque monster (obviously), but in this day and age with the way gas prices are and with that thing averaging ~19 mpg? add to that your lease payment of 1k/mo does not equate. Plus, it's a big heavy sedan, i've driven my fair share of 1st and 2nd gen A4's and you'd have to plunk a lot of money into that thing to make it fast. But if you've never owned one, do a 2yr lease , it's a good thing you're leasing because in a little over a year, they're going to replace that w the 08 B8 A4/S4...that's just shitty IMO shafting your own customer base and killing their resale value.
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monolith Private 10 Rep 72 Posts Drives: none Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Isn't the S4 $55K?
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Ryan 330i Major 57 Rep 1,181 Posts Drives: '09 E93 335i Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Francisco \| LA \| Oregon iTrader: (0)	the lease rates suck really bad. email me what you want and ill run a lease for you at the buy rate. with the S4 the risidual is so-so, but the money factor is through the roof, then dealers mark it up hense a 1k payment. like i said email me the MSRP of the car you want, miles a year, and drive off, and ill run a lease with no mark ups. __________________ 2009 E93 335i \| Jet \| Black Dakota \| Grey Poplar \| ZPP \| ZSP \| ZCW \| Step \| Paddles \| i-Drive \| CA \| Sirius \| HD \| Logic7 \| 06FL \| 06NF \| PDC \| OEM Alarm \| LUX Retired: 2007 E92 335i Retired: 2006 E90 330i
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Crazy Bimmer The Jesal 391 Rep 5,859 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chicago IL iTrader: (20) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [0.00]	I driven an S4 and i personally have more fun in a 330i. If it was my choice, i would go with the 335i and this is coming from an Audi owner. __________________ 2009 E90 M3 - SOLD
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RaptorKTM Colonel 238 Rep 2,366 Posts Drives: 1 M Coupe Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW 1 M [0.00]	i say go s4
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Hula-Hula Lieutenant Colonel 91 Rep 1,964 Posts Drives: ♥ Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nürburgring iTrader: (0)	I say go 550i! __________________
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Dev330 Second Lieutenant 3 Rep 215 Posts Drives: 330i E90 Black,Alum Blk int Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: JHB South Africa iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 330i E90 [0.00] 2003 Merc C230 K (R ... [0.00]	On a BMW forum you will always get a bias opinion, but truthfully driven an S4 and it definitely lacks especially when compared to its competition, even raced two one conv and sedan in my 330 and managed to get away , as mentioned previously RS4 all the way, but an S4 the thought would not even cross my mind!!! BMW all the way even though my second car is a Merc __________________
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mimmitt Private First Class 7 Rep 146 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NJ iTrader: (1)	I'm not going to suggest that BMW's offer Honda-type reliability, but you may want poke around and read up on Audi's reliability record. It ain't pretty....
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txusa03 Major General 552 Rep 6,563 Posts Drives: TS330iPPSP6MT Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Planet Earth iTrader: (3)	I don't know much about audi, but what about free maintenance and ease of modding.
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07-27-2006, 07:13 AM	#14
mkoesel Moderator 7525 Rep 19,368 Posts Drives: No BMW for now Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canton, MI iTrader: (1)	S4 = AWD only. If you need or want AWD for some reason, get the S4, because it will probably be a lot better in the twisties than a 335xi. Otherwise, 335i ZSP all the way my friend.
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Jch330 Second Lieutenant 14 Rep 242 Posts Drives: E92 328, BS CB, CA, Nav, PDC Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Palm Beach/ Bloomfield Hills, MI /Oxford, OH iTrader: (0)	That is complete crap, I have had an S4 and my family got another one as an extra car because they loved mine so much. You should pay 750 max i would say, i know we got good deals bc we have had 5 audis in the last 5 years or so but 1000 is complete crap
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Jch330 Second Lieutenant 14 Rep 242 Posts Drives: E92 328, BS CB, CA, Nav, PDC Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Palm Beach/ Bloomfield Hills, MI /Oxford, OH iTrader: (0)	The S4 > 330, but i would say maybe 335 (coupe) >S4. I do not believe for a second though that a 330 sedan beat an S4 sedan, the person had to be asleep at the wheel because it is so much easier to launch with all wheel drive, and even the auto is 0-60 in 5.5 or 5.4
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07-27-2006, 08:15 AM	#18
ACZakka325i Colonel 278 Rep 2,008 Posts Drives: 2 stroke Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: CT iTrader: (2)	I like the S4, though i dont know if i would buy one over a comperable BMW if i had the money. What i will tell you is that a lot of my freinds audis are falling apart after a few years. For example the little screen between the rpm and MPH gauges looks like a messed up nintendo game (if you know what i mean), other things like the leather delaminating from the center arm rest, the arm rest not staying into one position, oh yea and it sounds like its going to blow up at idle and its like 4 years old! I dont know, i think build quiality is somthing i will consider more seriously from now on. __________________ (Waitlist): #1 M2CSL (Current): 2016 F15 X5 3.5xdrive - 2010 997.2 C4S Coupe (Past): 2016 F30 340xi M-Sport -2013 535i xdrive 2008 E92 M3 - 2006 E90 325i 2002 E46 325xi - 1991 E30 325i
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Hotan Braskey Private First Class 2 Rep 184 Posts Drives: 1M on Order- VO please Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maryland, USA iTrader: (0)	Yeah, a 330i killing an S4 doesn't seem right. I have driven both, and the S4 definitely has the edge in terms of straight-line speed. In the turns it MAY be different because the S4 weighs so much, but the 330i is no lightweight, either. Also $1000/mo. is a complete show. You should be able to get a lease for around $800-something per month. __________________ If all the animals below the equator were capable of flattery, then Thanksgiving and Halloween would fall on the same day.
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Ryan 330i Major 57 Rep 1,181 Posts Drives: '09 E93 335i Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Francisco \| LA \| Oregon iTrader: (0)	who said RS4?? __________________ 2009 E93 335i \| Jet \| Black Dakota \| Grey Poplar \| ZPP \| ZSP \| ZCW \| Step \| Paddles \| i-Drive \| CA \| Sirius \| HD \| Logic7 \| 06FL \| 06NF \| PDC \| OEM Alarm \| LUX Retired: 2007 E92 335i Retired: 2006 E90 330i
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MrSilver Judge Advocate General 100 Rep 1,128 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Buffalo, New York iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 e92 335i [0.00]	I looked into the S4 as well. I currently drive the TT. I was quoted 850 p/m with 3,500 down. I still think that is WAY too much for the vehicle. As for getting a 335i for under 700 p/m, I seriously doubt that will happen until the MY2008 comes out. My dealer has told me to expect a mid 700s lease rate for my 335i. I'm probably just going to buy the car. __________________ '07 E92 335i "Over-Heating" and "Blowing Up" since 9-5-06 6MT, Space Gray, Gray w/ Dakota Leather, Dark Burl, ZSP, ZPP, ZCW Comfort Access, Sirius Satellite (Howard is not optional) '07 X3 3.0si - Black on Black, ZPP, ZCW, Step. - Wife's car
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