E90 windshield is s**t.

vleivo · 08-09-2006, 08:58 AM

Got my second big rock chip in my window and my car is under 1 year old. And the funny thing is that i drive far away from other cars never tailgate or anything was driving around 30mph when i got the last one. My ex e46 got alot of stones in its windshield and never left a mark in the e90 everything leaves marks, even small rocks leave marks. Too bad the windshield has become worse in the new model. A new windshield without rainsensor costs around 300 dollars so its not that expensive, if there is something positive about the damn thing.

Brad from the OC · 08-09-2006, 09:30 AM

Wow! I didn't realize the windshield was a weak point. My E90 is also less than a year old and only has 5,000 miles on it and got hit in the windshield by a rock while traveling about 60 MPH. The rock left a 1/2 inch chip in the window and I had it repaired for $60 at a windshield repair shop. They injected a resin into the chip and smoothed it out. The damage looks a lot better, but is still visible. Fortunately, the chip is in the bottom left corner of the window, so it is out of my direct line of sight while driving. I considered buying a new windshield, but if the windshield is that bad, there is nothing that says that in a few more months, I wouldn't get another rock chip in it. Does anyone know of a higher quality replacement windshield and what it would cost?

F32Fleet · 08-09-2006, 09:37 AM

I believe all windshields must meet the same standards. The only thing that changes is the angle at which the windshield is positioned. Maybe the E90's are more upright than say the E46/E36 and therefore more likely to chip.

luckystrike · 08-09-2006, 09:44 AM

wow your all lucky mine was replace after 3 days of owning grrr the only good thing is i have a full warranty but i still paid 300 euro for the first 5 percent grrrr.

NFS · 08-09-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad from the OC

Wow! I didn't realize the windshield was a weak point. My E90 is also less than a year old and only has 5,000 miles on it and got hit in the windshield by a rock while traveling about 60 MPH. The rock left a 1/2 inch chip in the window and I had it repaired for $60 at a windshield repair shop. They injected a resin into the chip and smoothed it out. The damage looks a lot better, but is still visible. Fortunately, the chip is in the bottom left corner of the window, so it is out of my direct line of sight while driving. I considered buying a new windshield, but if the windshield is that bad, there is nothing that says that in a few more months, I wouldn't get another rock chip in it. Does anyone know of a higher quality replacement windshield and what it would cost?

That's cheap modern windshields for you. It's not like the old days is it?

morningla · 08-09-2006, 10:01 AM

are you sure it's not just the impact and size of the rock. I really depends on how fast the rock is coming at you. You might get a lot of rocks but no chip. But you can't really tell how fast the rock is coming or how big it actually is even though you try to stay far away. I've driven for 10 years and never had a chip. I drive close to the car ahead once in a while. My gf drives safely but the 1st month she got her car, I was in the passenger seat, it chipped and cracked the windsheild almost instantly. Big rocks is a factor i think.

AW330i · 08-09-2006, 10:20 AM

I really wish they would do something about the windshields. I had mine replaced and a week after that I got another f@#king rock chip!! I am still mad about it...

SocalTy · 08-09-2006, 10:23 AM

I've also noticed this has been a frequent occurrence from personal experience and from the forum.

I've already had one chip repaired, which happended even before I received my plates. Then another tiny chip a few weeks ago. I've had 4 cars prior to the E90 and I've never had one rock chip in any of the windshields. Now 2 within 7 months of purchasing the car?!

e902cool · 08-09-2006, 10:30 AM

IMO, I this it just depends on the angle of the rock hit the winshield, sometimes, is just pure luck, depends on the angle, size and shape of rocks, there is no tell what kind of damage it may do....

I have learned to live with it already... and replacing the winshield earlier than it needs is waste of $$ in my opinion.. since who knows the next thing you drive it, it may leave another one....

and funny thing, if you tailgate, the chips tend to appear on your bumper, the farther you drive behind a construction truck, the higher the rocks hit --> i.e. your winshield.

vleivo · 08-09-2006, 10:52 AM

I personaly am almost certain windshields in general have become weaker/softer than before. My dads audi windshield had around 5-10 rock chips when it was 3 years old and finaly cracked and had to be changed. In no other car he has owned has he needed to change the windshield. When he called the dealer about needing a new one, the dealer said that windshield have become softer and worse in quality on new cars in general than before. Really i am not kidding. Therfore i also think bmw has gone the same route, cheaper windows equal worse quality, its all about saving a euro here and there. My 2cents.

epiphone3 · 08-09-2006, 10:56 AM

I think we should all just take a chill pill and live with the perils involved with driving a vehicle these days.

ashecnc · 08-09-2006, 11:10 AM

Yes they are very cheap/weak. My 1996 subaru windshield has been hit over 10 years and has zero chunks/chips, in 10 years to see out an e90, you,ll have to hang your head out the side window to see to drive.

longtran · 08-09-2006, 11:25 AM

i got 2 rock chips on my widshield now. i am leaving it alone.

jojogargoles · 08-09-2006, 11:54 AM

hmmm thst suckS!

bk8 · 08-09-2006, 11:57 AM

All the BMWs I had seemed to have softer windscreens than other cars. They seem more prone to those little nicks that show as white spots.

matt20043.0 · 08-09-2006, 12:02 PM

I have at least 4 of those small chips. At least none of them are in my direct line of sight.

shragon · 08-09-2006, 12:15 PM

my e34 went over 10 years without having the windshield replaced. had two rock chips, and of course it was pretty pitted.

no rock chips so far on the e90 windshield, but i do have a large rock chip on my hood!! :mad:

pawarrant · 08-09-2006, 12:23 PM

I've just learned to avoid driving behing vehicles that do not have mud flaps if possible. I had to have my windshield replaced on my e46 and my e90 less than a month after I bought it. I definately think the BMW windshields are softer since I never had a crack or chip in any of my non BMW cars. It could be coincidence.

ashecnc · 08-09-2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shragon

but i do have a large rock chip on my hood!! :mad:

ScBlacksunshine · 08-09-2006, 12:53 PM

Can we say invisible bra for the entire windshield?

DEAN325i · 08-09-2006, 02:09 PM

mine cracked the 2nd week i had it

Boondoggler · 08-09-2006, 03:16 PM

I've had mine just over a month, I've had two rocks hit my windshield, and both caused chips. So far, I'm batting .1000.

08-09-2006, 08:58 AM	#1
vleivo Private First Class 8 Rep 138 Posts Drives: e90 325i steptronic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Finland iTrader: (0)	E90 windshield is st.** Got my second big rock chip in my window and my car is under 1 year old. And the funny thing is that i drive far away from other cars never tailgate or anything was driving around 30mph when i got the last one. My ex e46 got alot of stones in its windshield and never left a mark in the e90 everything leaves marks, even small rocks leave marks. Too bad the windshield has become worse in the new model. A new windshield without rainsensor costs around 300 dollars so its not that expensive, if there is something positive about the damn thing. __________________ Bmw 325i -06 "Slush o' matic" 20" Hartge classics with Falken 245/30 and 285/25Eisenmann race 2x76mmK&N Euro cone filterH&R Cupkit raceOem Front and Rear spoiler* Xenon led ringsBlacklines
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Brad from the OC Private First Class 15 Rep 153 Posts Drives: 325Ia Alpine White Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California iTrader: (0)	Wow! I didn't realize the windshield was a weak point. My E90 is also less than a year old and only has 5,000 miles on it and got hit in the windshield by a rock while traveling about 60 MPH. The rock left a 1/2 inch chip in the window and I had it repaired for $60 at a windshield repair shop. They injected a resin into the chip and smoothed it out. The damage looks a lot better, but is still visible. Fortunately, the chip is in the bottom left corner of the window, so it is out of my direct line of sight while driving. I considered buying a new windshield, but if the windshield is that bad, there is nothing that says that in a few more months, I wouldn't get another rock chip in it. Does anyone know of a higher quality replacement windshield and what it would cost?
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08-09-2006, 09:37 AM	#3
F32Fleet Lieutenant General 3616 Rep 10,377 Posts Drives: 2015 435i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southeastern US iTrader: (0)	I believe all windshields must meet the same standards. The only thing that changes is the angle at which the windshield is positioned. Maybe the E90's are more upright than say the E46/E36 and therefore more likely to chip.
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08-09-2006, 09:44 AM	#4
luckystrike First Lieutenant 19 Rep 349 Posts Drives: X3 F25 MSport Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: austria iTrader: (0)	wow your all lucky mine was replace after 3 days of owning grrr the only good thing is i have a full warranty but i still paid 300 euro for the first 5 percent grrrr. __________________ black saph./black leather/xenon/heated seatscomfort pkg./advantage pkg
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08-09-2006, 10:01 AM	#6
morningla Private 6 Rep 54 Posts Drives: coupe Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: na iTrader: (0)	are you sure it's not just the impact and size of the rock. I really depends on how fast the rock is coming at you. You might get a lot of rocks but no chip. But you can't really tell how fast the rock is coming or how big it actually is even though you try to stay far away. I've driven for 10 years and never had a chip. I drive close to the car ahead once in a while. My gf drives safely but the 1st month she got her car, I was in the passenger seat, it chipped and cracked the windsheild almost instantly. Big rocks is a factor i think.
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08-09-2006, 10:20 AM	#7
AW330i Captain 79 Rep 876 Posts Drives: Alpine White 330i Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, Tx iTrader: (0)	I really wish they would do something about the windshields. I had mine replaced and a week after that I got another f@#king rock chip!! I am still mad about it... __________________
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08-09-2006, 10:23 AM	#8
SocalTy Flushing, Queens stand up!! 35 Rep 830 Posts Drives: AW E90 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NYC iTrader: (3) Garage List 06 e90 [0.00]	I've also noticed this has been a frequent occurrence from personal experience and from the forum. I've already had one chip repaired, which happended even before I received my plates. Then another tiny chip a few weeks ago. I've had 4 cars prior to the E90 and I've never had one rock chip in any of the windshields. Now 2 within 7 months of purchasing the car?! __________________ l 20% Tints l Osram 6000k Xenons l Brex l Blacklines l White Led Sidemarkers l PIAA Superwhite Turn Signals l 19" Breyton Spirits l H&R Sport Springs l Koni Yellow Adjustable Dampers l ACS Roof Spoiler l Painted Carbon Spoiler l Luminics Fogs l Oem Chrome Grill l
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08-09-2006, 10:30 AM	#9
e902cool Private 2 Rep 59 Posts Drives: BMW 330i sedan Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	IMO, I this it just depends on the angle of the rock hit the winshield, sometimes, is just pure luck, depends on the angle, size and shape of rocks, there is no tell what kind of damage it may do.... I have learned to live with it already... and replacing the winshield earlier than it needs is waste of $$ in my opinion.. since who knows the next thing you drive it, it may leave another one.... and funny thing, if you tailgate, the chips tend to appear on your bumper, the farther you drive behind a construction truck, the higher the rocks hit --> i.e. your winshield. __________________ 06 330i TS/ZSP/Steptronic/CA/Burl/Gray Leather/Fold-Down Rearseats/Power Sunshade
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08-09-2006, 10:52 AM	#10
vleivo Private First Class 8 Rep 138 Posts Drives: e90 325i steptronic Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Finland iTrader: (0)	I personaly am almost certain windshields in general have become weaker/softer than before. My dads audi windshield had around 5-10 rock chips when it was 3 years old and finaly cracked and had to be changed. In no other car he has owned has he needed to change the windshield. When he called the dealer about needing a new one, the dealer said that windshield have become softer and worse in quality on new cars in general than before. Really i am not kidding. Therfore i also think bmw has gone the same route, cheaper windows equal worse quality, its all about saving a euro here and there. My 2cents. __________________ Bmw 325i -06 "Slush o' matic" 20" Hartge classics with Falken 245/30 and 285/25Eisenmann race 2x76mmK&N Euro cone filterH&R Cupkit raceOem Front and Rear spoiler* Xenon led ringsBlacklines
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08-09-2006, 10:56 AM	#11
epiphone3 Lieutenant Colonel 112 Rep 1,772 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW X3 35i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Calgary iTrader: (0)	I think we should all just take a chill pill and live with the perils involved with driving a vehicle these days.
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08-09-2006, 11:10 AM	#12
ashecnc In the delivery business :) 25 Rep 991 Posts Drives: '06 325i Jet Black/Black Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Asheville, NC (mountains) Blue Ridge Parkway iTrader: (1) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00] 2006 325i [0.00]	Yes they are very cheap/weak. My 1996 subaru windshield has been hit over 10 years and has zero chunks/chips, in 10 years to see out an e90, you,ll have to hang your head out the side window to see to drive. __________________ Born 10/05 '06 325i Jet Black, Black, Sport Package, Xenon's, Heated Seats & Power, Sat. Prep, Rear Spoiler, Chrome Tips, Blacklines, Chrome Grills, 19" M5 wheels NO MORE run flats, drives like a dream now
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08-09-2006, 11:25 AM	#13
longtran Lieutenant General 1439 Rep 16,628 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: CA iTrader: (105) Garage List 2006 325i [0.00]	i got 2 rock chips on my widshield now. i am leaving it alone.
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08-09-2006, 11:54 AM	#14
jojogargoles Lieutenant 9 Rep 549 Posts Drives: 330i Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: sherman oaks, CA iTrader: (2)	hmmm thst suckS! __________________ SpeedTool
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08-09-2006, 11:57 AM	#15
bk8 Enlisted Member 0 Rep 44 Posts Drives: E90 325i M-Sport Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	All the BMWs I had seemed to have softer windscreens than other cars. They seem more prone to those little nicks that show as white spots. __________________ 325 M-Sport MT SG Black leather Alu
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08-09-2006, 12:02 PM	#16
matt20043.0 Private First Class 4 Rep 188 Posts Drives: BMW 2006 325i Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Modesto, Ca iTrader: (0)	I have at least 4 of those small chips. At least none of them are in my direct line of sight.
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08-09-2006, 12:15 PM	#17
shragon Moderator 497 Rep 27,441 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (7)	my e34 went over 10 years without having the windshield replaced. had two rock chips, and of course it was pretty pitted. no rock chips so far on the e90 windshield, but i do have a large rock chip on my hood!! :mad: __________________ www.cardomain.com/id/shragon
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pawarrant SECDEF 123 Rep 806 Posts Drives: 2020 X3 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 X3 xDrive30i [0.00] 2013 328xi [0.00]	I've just learned to avoid driving behing vehicles that do not have mud flaps if possible. I had to have my windshield replaced on my e46 and my e90 less than a month after I bought it. I definately think the BMW windshields are softer since I never had a crack or chip in any of my non BMW cars. It could be coincidence. __________________ 2020 X3 xDrive30i Carbon Black/Black Vernasca Leather w/ Blue stitching Retired: 2016 435i M-Sport Alpine White/Black Dakota Leather, 2013 328xi Melbourne Red Metallic/Black Dakota Leather, 2009 328xi Montego Blue Metallic/Saddle Brown Dakota Leather, 2006 325xi Monaco Blue Metallic/Gray Dakota Leather, 2003 325xi Steel Grey Metallic/Black Leather
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08-09-2006, 12:53 PM	#20
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08-09-2006, 02:09 PM	#21
DEAN325i LTBMW 106 Rep 1,068 Posts Drives: 2008 AW e92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ladera Ranch, CA iTrader: (3) Garage List 2006 E90 325i [0.00]	mine cracked the 2nd week i had it __________________ tuned by LTBMW
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08-09-2006, 03:16 PM	#22
Boondoggler Lieutenant 72 Rep 402 Posts Drives: 2023 G01 LCI X3 M40i Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, NJ iTrader: (1) Garage List 2016 340i xDrive [6.50]	I've had mine just over a month, I've had two rocks hit my windshield, and both caused chips. So far, I'm batting .1000. __________________ 2023 G01 LCI X3 M40i My Garage \| Phytonic Blue \| Black Sensatec \| Carbon Fiber Trim \| Parking \| Premium \| Remote \| Wireless \| Harmon Kardon \| 19" 887M Bi-color Midnight Grey
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