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      09-19-2006, 03:48 PM   #1
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My new car is obsolete already!? (330i vs 335i sedan)

Hey guys,

I’m not a regular to these forums, but the majority of posts here seem intelligent and well researched – therefore, I’m asking for your opinions/advice.

In short, I’m completely pissed to hear about the new 335i sedan replacing my E90 330i (which came off the first production batch to hit Canada). It blows my mind that within the span of 8 months or so, BMW has pretty much made my new car somewhat obsolete. Noone back at the time when I bought my car had any inkling that down the road plans for an additional 45hp version of my car would be available.

Anyhow, sour grapes aside, my concern is not so much the fact that I need the additional horsepower, but rather that I’m going to get little to no resale in the future on my current 2006 330i.

So, I’m debating trading in and paying a huge hit to get into the new 335i sedan. My current 330i has under 10k kms on it (weekend driver only) so, I’m hoping it won’t cost an arm and a leg to upgrade. Am I losing my mind or are my concerns valid?

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      09-19-2006, 03:55 PM   #2
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Any make and model goes through the same chain of events. Albeit the amount of time it takes for models to get replaced is a little longer, it's a natural cycle. I love my 330i, and have no regrets. Is the glass half full, or half empty to you?

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      09-19-2006, 03:56 PM   #3
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Hold on to it and wait for the m3... I'm also on the same boat as you... I decided to wait for the m3. If you take a big hit and buy the 335i now, you might have to take another big hit when the m3 comes out. just my 2cents.
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Hey guys,

I’m not a regular to these forums, but the majority of posts here seem intelligent and well researched – therefore, I’m asking for your opinions/advice.

In short, I’m completely pissed to hear about the new 335i sedan replacing my E90 330i (which came off the first production batch to hit Canada). It blows my mind that within the span of 8 months or so, BMW has pretty much made my new car somewhat obsolete. Noone back at the time when I bought my car had any inkling that down the road plans for an additional 45hp version of my car would be available.

Anyhow, sour grapes aside, my concern is not so much the fact that I need the additional horsepower, but rather that I’m going to get little to no resale in the future on my current 2006 330i.

So, I’m debating trading in and paying a huge hit to get into the new 335i sedan. My current 330i has under 10k kms on it (weekend driver only) so, I’m hoping it won’t cost an arm and a leg to upgrade. Am I losing my mind or are my concerns valid?
I don't understand, your car is a few thousand dollars cheaper than the 335i.

Would u have paid an extra $3-5k for the 335i?
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      09-19-2006, 04:25 PM   #6
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I don't understand, your car is a few thousand dollars cheaper than the 335i.

Would u have paid an extra $3-5k for the 335i?
Is the identically equipped 335 really $3-5k more expensive than the 330 (sedan to sedan)??? And 328 to 325 only $1500 more???
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Imagine how people feel that JUST NOW got a 330 delivered. You were eight months ago.
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Hey guys,

I’m not a regular to these forums, but the majority of posts here seem intelligent and well researched – therefore, I’m asking for your opinions/advice.

In short, I’m completely pissed to hear about the new 335i sedan replacing my E90 330i (which came off the first production batch to hit Canada). It blows my mind that within the span of 8 months or so, BMW has pretty much made my new car somewhat obsolete. Noone back at the time when I bought my car had any inkling that down the road plans for an additional 45hp version of my car would be available.

Anyhow, sour grapes aside, my concern is not so much the fact that I need the additional horsepower, but rather that I’m going to get little to no resale in the future on my current 2006 330i.

So, I’m debating trading in and paying a huge hit to get into the new 335i sedan. My current 330i has under 10k kms on it (weekend driver only) so, I’m hoping it won’t cost an arm and a leg to upgrade. Am I losing my mind or are my concerns valid?
You're worried about resale, but you'd take a big hit on trading it in now? That doesn't make any sense. So yes, you are losing your mind.
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I know if BMW released the twin turbo into the Z4 I would be pretty pissed too (not to mention the M owners lol).

At least you're not driving an E46 330i lol (nothing against them but most would consider them obsolete). The engine in your 330 and my 3.0si is a gem with or without this twin turbo six.
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wait, they change cars from year to year??

and sometimes make them better??

nobody told me this when I signed up for this deal, I thought my car was the pinnacle of automotive engineering.
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E90 sedan has been out for 17 months, not 8 months

"...within the span of 8 months or so,..."

8 months? The 2006 E90 sedan came out in March, 2005, and was manufactured until the end of July, 2006. That is about 17 months. I bought my MY2000 E46 in Dec 1999. It was first introduced in Sept. 1998 After about 24 months the 328i was changed to the 330i (Sept. 2000). So 24 months until model change back in the early 2000s, and 17 months until model change in 2006. Okay, 7 months difference.

The fact that the 330i came out only two years after the E46 328i came out has never bothered me one bit. I loved and still love my E46 328I.

Btw, I have a 2007 335i on order. I am glad I waited this time for the '~two year into the new model year change'.



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Hey guys,

I’m not a regular to these forums, but the majority of posts here seem intelligent and well researched – therefore, I’m asking for your opinions/advice.

In short, I’m completely pissed to hear about the new 335i sedan replacing my E90 330i (which came off the first production batch to hit Canada). It blows my mind that within the span of 8 months or so, BMW has pretty much made my new car somewhat obsolete. Noone back at the time when I bought my car had any inkling that down the road plans for an additional 45hp version of my car would be available.

Anyhow, sour grapes aside, my concern is not so much the fact that I need the additional horsepower, but rather that I’m going to get little to no resale in the future on my current 2006 330i.

So, I’m debating trading in and paying a huge hit to get into the new 335i sedan. My current 330i has under 10k kms on it (weekend driver only) so, I’m hoping it won’t cost an arm and a leg to upgrade. Am I losing my mind or are my concerns valid?
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You're worried about resale, but you'd take a big hit on trading it in now? That doesn't make any sense. So yes, you are losing your mind.
I was thinking the same thing as I read it too. I sware people start these threads just to rant, and then throw in some ridiculous question as a "decoy".
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I don't really understand all the whining about this from MY 2006 owners. Your car has been updated/replaced - so what? Your car is still the same car it was when you purchased it and eventually it would be improved upon. That is what carmakers do.

And as for resale, the only way the hit is that bad is if you do what you are considering doing right now - trade it in right after you take the initial depreciation hit that comes with driving it off the lot. If the original plan was to keep it for three years and you go ahead and do so, I doubt the resale will be that bad.

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Noone back at the time when I bought my car had any inkling that down the road plans for an additional 45hp version of my car would be available.
Define "no one"?

It was certainly suggested by February 06 that the 335i sedan was a strong possibility.

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First, wecome. Sorry to see that you received the snotty responses above.

I think that there is less resale value lost in the short term and maybe more in the longer term. Typically people are either shopping for new cars or used cars - generally not either/or. So the used car buyer is still going to look at your car as a great car - until there are 335's sitting along side it that are also in the used market. Then things might tighten up a little, but there will still be a price difference.

I'm no expert and usually take a bath every time I trade anyway so what do I know, but that seems logical. My advice is relax and enjoy your very nice 330. I doubt you would lose much in the long run.
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Hey guys,

I’m not a regular to these forums, but the majority of posts here seem intelligent and well researched – therefore, I’m asking for your opinions/advice.

In short, I’m completely pissed to hear about the new 335i sedan replacing my E90 330i (which came off the first production batch to hit Canada). It blows my mind that within the span of 8 months or so, BMW has pretty much made my new car somewhat obsolete. Noone back at the time when I bought my car had any inkling that down the road plans for an additional 45hp version of my car would be available.

Anyhow, sour grapes aside, my concern is not so much the fact that I need the additional horsepower, but rather that I’m going to get little to no resale in the future on my current 2006 330i.

So, I’m debating trading in and paying a huge hit to get into the new 335i sedan. My current 330i has under 10k kms on it (weekend driver only) so, I’m hoping it won’t cost an arm and a leg to upgrade. Am I losing my mind or are my concerns valid?
Yeah, I hear your frustration. I would be too.

It is unheard of BMW to upgrade their engine so drastically and so fast. It is no wonder many current 330i owners got blind sided by BMW.

Will current 330i got hit in resale value? 100% sure. By how much? Too early to tell.

For those who desperately want to believe 335i has no effect on resale value of 330i; all used car pricing is based on supply & demand and how many people are willing to pay. Many 330i owners will start trading in for 335i and this will put more supply of 330i in the market. Also if you are the buyer, would you buy 330i or 335i if the price difference is only $2,100? Especially after you test driving both? So to make people to buy 330i over 335i in long run, you have to give bigger discount on 330i to make people buy it over 335i.

335i has "only" increase in price over 330i for $2,100. Although it is not a small amount, to me it is super-bargain-of-the-century for gaining nearly 100hp and equally in torque!! If this is not a super performance bargain, I don't know what it is. I bet almost all the people who bought 330i recently WOULD rather get 335i if they knew about it. For just $2,100, I'll drop premium pkg on 330i and get bare bone 335i with only Spork Pkg.
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That doesnt show how much you like your car that your first post is a negative one. Trade it.

Why is it that one time poster's always manages to get the regular posters to post and the thread jumps in hits and replies?
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I'm sorry. I feel your pain. I have an E46 328i that went bye-bye to the 330i. In the end, enjoy your car and drive the piss out of it. It will reward you with years of good service, great looks and fun driving. Be happy with what you have, not what you don't, a wise man once told me.
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This is an interesting topic, and I see your concern. However, there are always going to be newer models being presented, and better cars than yours on the road. Instead of worrying about the 335i being faster or newer, just be happy you own one of the most respected vehicles in the world.
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my 330 was about 45k
a similarly equipped 335 sedan is now 50k
a similarly equipped 328 sedan is now 45k

i think people would want to buy my 330 over the 328 in the long run...
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330i sedan e90 is not obselete. 335i and 328i are arriving, that's just the natural history of the a car model's life span.- ie a natural progression.
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