oil temp running at 270?

jake89714 · 11-30-2009, 12:47 PM

Hi i have 2007 e92 with jb tune and my oil temp runnig around 270 in 40degree weather... only when i push the car little hard... Is this normal? I dont have OEM oil cooler..

THnaks

Top_Gear_Fan · 11-30-2009, 12:57 PM

That seems only slightly above normal. Shouldn't be too much of a problem unless your car begins to go into limp mode. I thought the 07s have an oil cooler in the front tire wall on the passenger side.

bmw-hoya · 11-30-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Top_Gear_Fan

That seems only slightly above normal. Shouldn't be too much of a problem unless your car begins to go into limp mode. I thought the 07s have an oil cooler in the front tire wall on the passenger side.

+1

Seems a little high. The OEM oil cooler can be seen as metal grating at front wheel well. From what I've read on the forums, it is unpredictable which e90s have the oil cooler and which don't.

335e92tx · 11-30-2009, 01:57 PM

So what does it run at normal driving?
Should be about 240 max.

Is this at any kind of altitude or close to SL?

bsamoul · 11-30-2009, 02:23 PM

not every 07 had the oil cooler i don't think. i believe that started in 08?

335e92tx · 11-30-2009, 02:33 PM

Actually, only manual cars with the sport package had them up until about March 2007. Then all 07s with SPP got them.

HoustonScott · 11-30-2009, 02:39 PM

That is normal for the early 335i's without the oil coolers. Later models with the sport package got the coolers, and now I think all 335i's have the cooler. And yes 240 is way high for any engine to run even air cooled ones. Your oil temp should be around 212 just high enough to get all the moister out. My M3 runs under 212 in all temps here in TX when just driven normal. You really have push it to get them over 212. Put an oil cooler on if you plan on keeping the car for any length of time. This is a real design short fall for this engine.

HS

335e92tx · 11-30-2009, 03:05 PM

Well, the N54 motor is a little hot (close mount turbos) even with a OC. Even with an OC, mine still gets 235/240 on long drives (at normal velocities). But it should not be consistently getting 250+ on normal drives. Highspeed maybe.

During several 20 minute sessions at the local road course (2.9m), it got to 265. But that is the highest I have ever seen it. Even before the OC was installed it only infrequently went to 240 - never above.

lawwailok · 12-01-2009, 12:39 AM

mine is an 07 early production, ZSP but no cooler. normal driving is around 225-230 in a 40F day, summer 100F day will be around 240-245F but never go over 250F.
yesterday, mid 40F - mid 50F morning, went to mountain twisties run with bunch of friends, i kept the rpm higher than usual, ~4000rpm, oil temp was around 235F. at some points i was redlining/holding gear @ ~6000rpm, then i started seeing 250F, but never went over it. once i let the rpm fall back to lower, oil temp significantly dropped quick back to 230-235F.
even my friends' prosches were running a bit warmer than usual, they said they saw ~220F, so mine isn't too bad at all.

but yes, definitely i need a cooler for a safer run.

side note, i am running JB+ 75%.

E30M3Driver · 12-01-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jake89714

Hi i have 2007 e92 with jb tune and my oil temp runnig around 270 in 40degree weather... only when i push the car little hard... Is this normal? I dont have OEM oil cooler..

THnaks

Seems a bit high. With oil cooler I see about 230-235 in 40 degree weather under normal conditions. 240-250 pushing it really hard. 260-265 on a hot day pushing it hard, and as much as 285 on the track on a hot day.

How high does your oil gauge read? Early cars only went to 300, later cars like 320. Early cars tend to read a bit higher.

jake89714 · 12-01-2009, 09:43 AM

My car is the early prouduction model so it max out at 300, When I drive normal it goes up to 240 maybe 250..

Mookie469 · 12-02-2009, 09:10 PM

What would be a good place to get an OC? Website? Dealer? Aftermarket?

TurboFan · 12-03-2009, 03:48 AM

With a tune, in any weather, that sounds reasonable, esp w/o the oil cooler.

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Top_Gear_Fan Lieutenant 108 Rep 403 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0)	That seems only slightly above normal. Shouldn't be too much of a problem unless your car begins to go into limp mode. I thought the 07s have an oil cooler in the front tire wall on the passenger side. __________________ My Ferrari 458 experience http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=738262 My McLaren MP4-12c experiences http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=794746 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=939740
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335e92tx ahat 1038 Rep 2,592 Posts Drives: Was '07-335e92 - Now '13-335IS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas iTrader: (6)	Actually, only manual cars with the sport package had them up until about March 2007. Then all 07s with SPP got them. __________________ '13 335IS N54 (1 of 373 LeMans Blue out of 3597 total production e92)- Grey interior (1 of 24 in LMB with any trans- 1 of 14 with DCT)-MODS -MFactory LSD/MHD-BQ custom Tune/ATM-IC/AFE Momentum GT Intake/Konis/Mfront&HeimJoint Rear rods&arms/Brembos. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lo6aHZRo7XqtPkhL8
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HoustonScott Lieutenant 21 Rep 436 Posts Drives: 2010 335d, montego Blue Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Houston, Tx iTrader: (0)	That is normal for the early 335i's without the oil coolers. Later models with the sport package got the coolers, and now I think all 335i's have the cooler. And yes 240 is way high for any engine to run even air cooled ones. Your oil temp should be around 212 just high enough to get all the moister out. My M3 runs under 212 in all temps here in TX when just driven normal. You really have push it to get them over 212. Put an oil cooler on if you plan on keeping the car for any length of time. This is a real design short fall for this engine. HS
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335e92tx ahat 1038 Rep 2,592 Posts Drives: Was '07-335e92 - Now '13-335IS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas iTrader: (6)	Well, the N54 motor is a little hot (close mount turbos) even with a OC. Even with an OC, mine still gets 235/240 on long drives (at normal velocities). But it should not be consistently getting 250+ on normal drives. Highspeed maybe. During several 20 minute sessions at the local road course (2.9m), it got to 265. But that is the highest I have ever seen it. Even before the OC was installed it only infrequently went to 240 - never above. __________________ '13 335IS N54 (1 of 373 LeMans Blue out of 3597 total production e92)- Grey interior (1 of 24 in LMB with any trans- 1 of 14 with DCT)-MODS -MFactory LSD/MHD-BQ custom Tune/ATM-IC/AFE Momentum GT Intake/Konis/Mfront&HeimJoint Rear rods&arms/Brembos. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Lo6aHZRo7XqtPkhL8
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lawwailok Lieutenant Colonel 146 Rep 1,922 Posts Drives: E90 335i, E70 X5 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA iTrader: (18) Garage List 2007 E90 335i [8.00] 2009 E70 xDrive30i [0.00]	mine is an 07 early production, ZSP but no cooler. normal driving is around 225-230 in a 40F day, summer 100F day will be around 240-245F but never go over 250F. yesterday, mid 40F - mid 50F morning, went to mountain twisties run with bunch of friends, i kept the rpm higher than usual, ~4000rpm, oil temp was around 235F. at some points i was redlining/holding gear @ ~6000rpm, then i started seeing 250F, but never went over it. once i let the rpm fall back to lower, oil temp significantly dropped quick back to 230-235F. even my friends' prosches were running a bit warmer than usual, they said they saw ~220F, so mine isn't too bad at all. but yes, definitely i need a cooler for a safer run. side note, i am running JB+ 75%. __________________ -eric E90 335i TiAg STOCK see my garage for mod list.. E70 X5 SGM try to stay stock :/
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jake89714 First Lieutenant 51 Rep 393 Posts Drives: 2007 335i coupe Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NOrthern VA iTrader: (1)	My car is the early prouduction model so it max out at 300, When I drive normal it goes up to 240 maybe 250..
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TurboFan Ski bum 321 Rep 6,198 Posts Drives: sideways Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Knee deep in the pow iTrader: (8)	With a tune, in any weather, that sounds reasonable, esp w/o the oil cooler. __________________ 1999 e46 328i Ti Silver / Black[retired] 2007 e90 335xi Jet Black / Black[retired] 2011 e70 X5 35d Vermillion Red / Cinnamon 2011 e92 M3 LeMans / Fox Red extended
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