Been out driving in the snow (335i and 130i)

E92Fan · 12-18-2009, 03:27 AM

Just been out driving about in the snow

Thankfully I have winter tyres on - what a difference it's made! People sliding about everywhere, and I'm just pottering on blissfully in comfort and safety

In comparison, I've also been driving a 130i which still has Bridgestone runflats... ohmygod what a bag of shite those tyres really are! I'd forgotten just how bad they are in the cold - absolutely NO grip whatsoever, even in a straight line let alone a corner. It's positively dangerous how easily they let go, and there's absolutely no chance of correction because there's just no grip.

The ride also on the 130i is atrocious - why oh why did BMW make the rear end SO damn stiff? It's almost back-breaking, even compared to my own car which isn't exactly the epitome of comfort. Have to say though that the 3.0l engine is an absolute dream, with throtte response a turbo-car can only dream about having, perfectly spaced pedals for heel & toeing, steering which is positive but lifeless (still not a patch on the proper hydraulic systems). The gearbox is a bitch when cold, and only mildly better when warm. Short shift kit would make a massive difference to the excessively long throw at the moment. The 130i sport seats are brilliant - MUCH better than the sport seats in the 3er. The dashboard is plasticky, and the fisher-price material used for the binnacle housing is just horrific. But undeniably the 130i is FUN... just not on those tyres in the cold

Please everyone drive safe in these wintrous conditions... remember that it's not necessarily YOU that will be unsafe, it could be the other road users around you!

creepy coupe · 12-18-2009, 04:06 AM

Interesting stuff Tone, now go an get on with some proper work and stop making us all envious

Baby Dave · 12-18-2009, 05:14 AM

just been to asda and it wasnt to do any shopping. Had a good play until the xmas shoppers turned up. Agree with the above that the Bridgestones are crap.Bring on the summer. Happy Xmas everyone.

neo871 · 12-18-2009, 05:44 AM

It's really snowing here in Romania too!
I have my winter setup on with 17" bmw style 285 rims and 225/45/17 Dunlop WinterSport 3D tires and I can easily drive around in the snow. Much better than I expected. The DSC and DTC are doing their job very well. It's standing starts and ramps that i happen to get upset by...

- Paul - · 12-18-2009, 05:50 AM

I'm on Bridgestone runflats - don't think I'll bother testing the grip!!

dxb335d · 12-18-2009, 05:54 AM

I aint even using my car. In work car just drove 65 miles home from Shitswich. Was fun on the A14.

lesfinnie · 12-18-2009, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by - Paul -

I'm on Bridgestone runflats - don't think I'll bother testing the grip!!

That's cos there aint any

Teutonicdriver · 12-18-2009, 06:40 AM

14 mile drive to work in the snow this morning and was amazed how poor the car handled. Even driving in a straight line any acceleration caused the rear to start to slide out. Crap!

JLR1969 · 12-18-2009, 07:21 AM

Been out in the Land Rover Defender its the one day of the year that you can feel smug, normally its just a tractor.

Been practicing power drifts in Tesco car park. It just does not get stuck.

SoYank · 12-18-2009, 08:52 AM

Drove today with my 31x10.5R15's. Couldn't get the transfer case to release the front diff for some reason then suddenly it dropped off. Just wish I had heated front seats.

Yeah, drive safe and cautious but only drive if you really have to.

red355 · 12-18-2009, 09:19 AM

My car was totally utterly rubbish this morning, if it wasn't for some kind people hat pushed me up a 1 in 50 hill I would still be there.

Got home after 5 hours of sliding, couldn't get on the drive. til the wife pushed me

AND thats with Mich PS2 non runflats.....another nail in the 335Ds coffin (read excuse to wife for me to change after 3.3 great years)

E92Fan · 12-18-2009, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red355

My car was totally utterly rubbish this morning, if it wasn't for some kind people hat pushed me up a 1 in 50 hill I would still be there.

Got home after 5 hours of sliding, couldn't get on the drive. til the wife pushed me

AND thats with Mich PS2 non runflats.....another nail in the 335Ds coffin (read excuse to wife for me to change after 3.3 great years)

Not really to do with the 335d is it? Surely it's down to using summer tyres in non-summer conditions

dxb335d · 12-18-2009, 09:58 AM

Just went out in the dxbizzle, Got stuck at end of my driveway. Sigh. Then got stuck in tesco car park, had two lads push me out sideways.

red355 · 12-18-2009, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E92Fan

Not really to do with the 335d is it? Surely it's down to using summer tyres in non-summer conditions

I know, but its a good excuse to activate the autothalmus

what I really should do, is do what you have done, fit a LSD, suspension new rims.....and also get some winter tyres on my old 17"s

be a lot cheaper than a fresh car

red355 · 12-18-2009, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Just went out in the dxbizzle, Got stuck at end of my driveway. Sigh. Then got stuck in tesco car park, had two lads push me out sideways.

Did they know what an honour it was to touch the legend that is the DXB

creepy coupe · 12-18-2009, 10:21 AM

I think we would all do better to fit two space savers on the rears.

Dubbedoutbimmer · 12-18-2009, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by - Paul -

I'm on Bridgestone runflats - don't think I'll bother testing the grip!!

you wont have to "test the grip" because there is none to test lol becareful get snows asap

pjs · 12-18-2009, 10:31 AM

Pissed the school run, but then all most got stuck trying to get out of the showcase....our cars are proper shite in ice and snow.

chris330D · 12-18-2009, 11:19 AM

Got home ok, eventually. Parked on the drive as i couldn't get stright to go in the garage. Went in to get changed and when i came back the car had slid down the drive and has scrapped the drivers side wing on the garage door.

lesfinnie · 12-18-2009, 12:34 PM

I'm thinking of buying snow chains, anyone ever used them?

Googlyamnesiac · 12-18-2009, 01:43 PM

Jesus wept ... this morning was horrific. Sliding all over the place in my 320d!! Thats with non run flats but not winter tyres.

First time i've driven a RWD car in the winter though... a learning experience but one that I came away with no damage thankfully!

stupot · 12-18-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chris330D

Got home ok, eventually. Parked on the drive as i couldn't get stright to go in the garage. Went in to get changed and when i came back the car had slid down the drive and has scrapped the drivers side wing on the garage door.

This happened to us last year and I wouldn't have believed it was possible. I had an E70 X5 then, and my wife had been using it for a few days as the coupe couldn’t get out of the driveway.

She came home and parked it in the drive and when she went out later it had slipped down the drive into the garage door. It needed the front bumper repaired and painted.

We have a very very shallow slope on our driveway. I would never have believed that a car would actually slide on it, especially one as heavy as the X5.

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E92Fan Moderator 325 Rep 5,493 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: . iTrader: (0)	Been out driving in the snow (335i and 130i) Just been out driving about in the snow Thankfully I have winter tyres on - what a difference it's made! People sliding about everywhere, and I'm just pottering on blissfully in comfort and safety In comparison, I've also been driving a 130i which still has Bridgestone runflats... ohmygod what a bag of shite those tyres really are! I'd forgotten just how bad they are in the cold - absolutely NO grip whatsoever, even in a straight line let alone a corner. It's positively dangerous how easily they let go, and there's absolutely no chance of correction because there's just no grip. The ride also on the 130i is atrocious - why oh why did BMW make the rear end SO damn stiff? It's almost back-breaking, even compared to my own car which isn't exactly the epitome of comfort. Have to say though that the 3.0l engine is an absolute dream, with throtte response a turbo-car can only dream about having, perfectly spaced pedals for heel & toeing, steering which is positive but lifeless (still not a patch on the proper hydraulic systems). The gearbox is a bitch when cold, and only mildly better when warm. Short shift kit would make a massive difference to the excessively long throw at the moment. The 130i sport seats are brilliant - MUCH better than the sport seats in the 3er. The dashboard is plasticky, and the fisher-price material used for the binnacle housing is just horrific. But undeniably the 130i is FUN... just not on those tyres in the cold Please everyone drive safe in these wintrous conditions... remember that it's not necessarily YOU that will be unsafe, it could be the other road users around you! __________________ ... ... ... DMS Remap Review ----- Quaife LSD Review ----- Hartge Antiroll Bars Review ----- Bilstein PSS10 B16 Ride Control Review ----- Detail by ShineOn ----- Paintshield Review
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Googlyamnesiac Captain 59 Rep 743 Posts Drives: 2013 F10 520D Join Date: May 2009 Location: Yorkshire, UK iTrader: (3)	Jesus wept ... this morning was horrific. Sliding all over the place in my 320d!! Thats with non run flats but not winter tyres. First time i've driven a RWD car in the winter though... a learning experience but one that I came away with no damage thankfully!
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