Can you Lemon a CPO?

A4rings · 02-05-2010, 07:27 AM

Hey guys i purchased my 07 e92 335 w/18k on jan 4th of 2010. The HPFP went out the day i purchased the car so they gave me a loaner and got my car back to me the next day. Now im at 18500 and having loss of power/long cranks. Now this would be the 4th HPFP replacement on the car

1st @ 7k (previous owner)
2nd @9k (previous owner)
3rd @ 18k (Day that i purchased the car)
4th @ 18500, hasnt been changed or diagnosed by BMW yet.

So what would you guys do if you were in my situation? I also have a concern about getting my fuel pump changed for a 4th time. I just read a few threads about the dealerships trying to cover up HPFP replacements with Injector swaps. Is there any way to document what specific HPFP i have so i can tell if they do indeed change the pump? thanks guys

PS; Im in Cali

Shieldze1025 · 02-05-2010, 07:34 AM

You can probably find the HPFP part numbers on the service history. You may be able to find out if the car was a buyback (pretty much a lemon), if so you may have a case.

I don't know too much about it, but I'm sure someone can give some more details on how to do it.

cotmfk · 02-05-2010, 07:42 AM

The laws will vary state to state also. So, you might want to post this in the California specific forums. Since it is a used car, it definitely complicates matters. Your low mileage helps, though. I had a friend with a used car she was trying to lemon law in VA. She was able to tell all her details to a lawyer for free before he accepted/denied her case. That way you can see if you have a case or not.

A4rings · 02-06-2010, 12:36 AM

i posted in the California forums as well, but i was just wondering if anyone knew how i could document what specific HPFP i have before i take the car into the dealership? like where its located so maybe i can take a picture of the part?

pruettfan · 02-06-2010, 02:26 AM

The lemon laws only apply to new cars in most states I believe this is the case in CA. Having said that BMW will fix it and they are giving you a loaner so it is not the worst case scenario.

thefireant · 02-06-2010, 06:20 AM

I believe that in the US you can onlylemon law a brand new first owner car.

LagMode335i · 02-06-2010, 11:19 AM

It was bound to happen. Everyone with the buybacks unloading the junky cars BMW could never fix; this is why there are so many great deals out there for used 335is. Chances are...if you bought a used 335i, the clock is ticking and counting down. You're better off to buy new.

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A4rings First Lieutenant 22 Rep 367 Posts Drives: 07 Space 335i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SBizzle iTrader: (0)	Can you Lemon a CPO? Hey guys i purchased my 07 e92 335 w/18k on jan 4th of 2010. The HPFP went out the day i purchased the car so they gave me a loaner and got my car back to me the next day. Now im at 18500 and having loss of power/long cranks. Now this would be the 4th HPFP replacement on the car 1st @ 7k (previous owner) 2nd @9k (previous owner) 3rd @ 18k (Day that i purchased the car) 4th @ 18500, hasnt been changed or diagnosed by BMW yet. So what would you guys do if you were in my situation? I also have a concern about getting my fuel pump changed for a 4th time. I just read a few threads about the dealerships trying to cover up HPFP replacements with Injector swaps. Is there any way to document what specific HPFP i have so i can tell if they do indeed change the pump? thanks guys PS; Im in Cali
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02-05-2010, 07:34 AM	#2
Shieldze1025 Keepin' America Free 72 Rep 1,260 Posts Drives: F10 535i Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Haleiwa, HI iTrader: (7)	You can probably find the HPFP part numbers on the service history. You may be able to find out if the car was a buyback (pretty much a lemon), if so you may have a case. I don't know too much about it, but I'm sure someone can give some more details on how to do it. __________________ F10 535i \| Retired: E60 ///M5 \| E92 335i "If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough" -Mario Andretti
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cotmfk Major General 2060 Rep 6,130 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Somewhere between DC and FL iTrader: (12)	The laws will vary state to state also. So, you might want to post this in the California specific forums. Since it is a used car, it definitely complicates matters. Your low mileage helps, though. I had a friend with a used car she was trying to lemon law in VA. She was able to tell all her details to a lawyer for free before he accepted/denied her case. That way you can see if you have a case or not. __________________ When you say impact instead of affect/effect, you are communicating that you don't understand the difference between the two words, and are too lazy to learn.
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A4rings First Lieutenant 22 Rep 367 Posts Drives: 07 Space 335i Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SBizzle iTrader: (0)	i posted in the California forums as well, but i was just wondering if anyone knew how i could document what specific HPFP i have before i take the car into the dealership? like where its located so maybe i can take a picture of the part?
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02-06-2010, 02:26 AM	#5
pruettfan Brigadier General 1622 Rep 3,402 Posts Drives: 2017 M2, LBB, DCT, Exec Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chandler, AZ iTrader: (0)	The lemon laws only apply to new cars in most states I believe this is the case in CA. Having said that BMW will fix it and they are giving you a loaner so it is not the worst case scenario.
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thefireant Just browsing for now... 2 Rep 219 Posts Drives: 2006 Pontiac GTO Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: All over the place iTrader: (0)	I believe that in the US you can onlylemon law a brand new first owner car. __________________ Cavalier XL
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LagMode335i Private First Class 1 Rep 181 Posts Drives: 2008 335i DS2 but M OTW Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: TN iTrader: (0)	It was bound to happen. Everyone with the buybacks unloading the junky cars BMW could never fix; this is why there are so many great deals out there for used 335is. Chances are...if you bought a used 335i, the clock is ticking and counting down. You're better off to buy new.
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