bimmerpost/
BMW M2 and 2-Series Coupe
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
home
BIMMERPOST Universal Forums Off-Topic Discussions Board

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-24-2006, 12:45 PM   #1
335i=:)
Second Lieutenant
31
Rep
290
Posts

Drives: 335i sedan-blk/blk-Poplar
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: utah

iTrader: (0)

Exclamation I have 4 100k plus/year job openings Februrary 07'

Hello all. I am a 27 year old entrepreneur. I own three companies currently and I am opening a fourth end of februrary 07'. I am located in SLC, UT and I don't have any other locations.

I opened my third company in october 05' and in our first year we did 4.5 million/sales with 10 salesman. 6 through 10 made over 200k/year, 3 through 5 made about 80-100 and the bottom two about 60k.

It is a inside only, straight commision paid 1099 (not w2), phone sales job.
For those of you who don't understand the tax advantages of being paid 1099
vs w2 think of it like this. If you make 100k/year and are paid w2 and you own a 400k house, you will most likely end up paying 30-35k in taxes (depending on how many kids, how much you contribute to retirement accounts, etc.). If you make 100k/year 1099 you will most likely pay around 10-20k taxes depending on variables.

I am selling Different types of business opportunities. In other words, turn-key type small business models, think franchises but on a smaller scale (300-30k packages, average sale 7k).

Top salesman who have already proved themselves over time have the opportunity to make partner in future companies (I can pop out about 1 new company every 1-2 years). For example, my top two salesman in my third company, this year made over 300k just from sales commision's and overrides alone. With my fourth company these two will be running the entire sales floor, and will have actual shares in the LLC, and therefore will share a % of the company profits. They will both make over 400k and up to about 700k depending on growth in the first year of course.

Feel free to post any questions.

One caveat to think about however. Only about 1 out of 4 recruits make it past the first three months. Also, you will need to be in a financial position such that you can handle not making money, at all, for the first couple months, due to the learning curve. Of course, some do great right from the get go. At the age of 22, I started as a salesman and made 6500, my first two weeks, I had no previous sales experience, and my previous job I was making 11/hr. This is the exception, not the rule.

Please post questions for everyone to see. Do not PM me unless your very serious.

Cheers,

Seth

BTW, my new 335i arrives tommorrow!!!!!!
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 01:33 PM   #2
sungmin
playing the field
South Korea
3
Rep
153
Posts

Drives: Lunch is for Wimps
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: sactown

iTrader: (2)

dude, that's great that youre only 27 and a mega billionaire, bleeding to share it with the world. but why advertise it on e90post? what is your business about? What utility will an e90post member do that deserves them 100k+ a year? getting insider trading information? lol

if you have 300k salesmen, you yourself must be netting a hundred million a year. way to go buddy!

on another note. why dont you wire me 1,000,000 and ill invest it in overseas property and return a 20% gain to you within 2 months. PM for info!
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 01:37 PM   #3
typerlover
Private
typerlover's Avatar
6
Rep
73
Posts

Drives: coming soon
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Middle

iTrader: (0)

I'll take a CPO 330i they have on the lot too if you dont mind. Only 35k asking price, I'm sure we could work it down at the dealership. Especially with your history and credibility in sales.
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 01:39 PM   #4
335i=:)
Second Lieutenant
31
Rep
290
Posts

Drives: 335i sedan-blk/blk-Poplar
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: utah

iTrader: (0)

I am advertising here because straight commission jobs are hard to fill, regardless of how amazing they are. Most of my recruits are from referral's because people simply don't believe they can make this much without having a degree. Whereas referal's know it's true because their friend has already been doing it.

Myself, yes I have done very well at a young age and I am looking to show others how to do it in a mutually benefial way.

However, every once in awhile I get lucky and someone will pop out of nowhere and blow everyone's mind.

I mail 40k mailpieces a week. I know you can never do enough marketing.

Thanks!
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 01:47 PM   #5
335i=:)
Second Lieutenant
31
Rep
290
Posts

Drives: 335i sedan-blk/blk-Poplar
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: utah

iTrader: (0)

I just received the following pm. I will post my response here so that I don't end up answering the same questions over and over.

I am curious to see what your business plan is all about. Does location matter? PM me back details.[/QUOTE]


The position is basically for a straight commission inside phone sales job. Selling business opportunities. Such as, how to make money in various aspects of real estate investing, debt settlement. No, you don't need to know anything about the business plans/training/coaching/leads your selling. You are selling the "dream" of making money, in other words, you talk to people about their debt, retirement, and other financially motivating problem areas in their life and then you sell them the money making vehicle that will solve their problems. After the sale is made, your job is done. There are scripts to use initially for training.

Yes, location does matter. As of now, you would have to work in SLC, UT.
It's possible to do the job anywhere however it's to time consuming to train anyone out of state. Regardless of how good of a salesman you might think you are, there is a reason I have to play my salespeople so much. Even though there is a script to read and to some that might seem elementary, like I said before, only 1 out of four make it past there months. That's including, lawyer's, MBA's, etc. In the past I've had guys with no sales experiece who been doing labor for years run circles around MBA's/lawyers.

Cheers
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 01:47 PM   #6
flush01
Major
47
Rep
1,419
Posts

Drives: 33m@%#ing5
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: toronto

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 335i=:)
Hello all. I am a 27 year old entrepreneur. I own three companies currently and I am opening a fourth end of februrary 07'. I am located in SLC, UT and I don't have any other locations.

I opened my third company in october 05' and in our first year we did 4.5 million/sales with 10 salesman. 6 through 10 made over 200k/year, 3 through 5 made about 80-100 and the bottom two about 60k.

It is a inside only, straight commision paid 1099 (not w2), phone sales job.
For those of you who don't understand the tax advantages of being paid 1099
vs w2 think of it like this. If you make 100k/year and are paid w2 and you own a 400k house, you will most likely end up paying 30-35k in taxes (depending on how many kids, how much you contribute to retirement accounts, etc.). If you make 100k/year 1099 you will most likely pay around 10-20k taxes depending on variables.

I am selling Different types of business opportunities. In other words, turn-key type small business models, think franchises but on a smaller scale (300-30k packages, average sale 7k).

Top salesman who have already proved themselves over time have the opportunity to make partner in future companies (I can pop out about 1 new company every 1-2 years). For example, my top two salesman in my third company, this year made over 300k just from sales commision's and overrides alone. With my fourth company these two will be running the entire sales floor, and will have actual shares in the LLC, and therefore will share a % of the company profits. They will both make over 400k and up to about 700k depending on growth in the first year of course.

Feel free to post any questions.

One caveat to think about however. Only about 1 out of 4 recruits make it past the first three months. Also, you will need to be in a financial position such that you can handle not making money, at all, for the first couple months, due to the learning curve. Of course, some do great right from the get go. At the age of 22, I started as a salesman and made 6500, my first two weeks, I had no previous sales experience, and my previous job I was making 11/hr. This is the exception, not the rule.

Please post questions for everyone to see. Do not PM me unless your very serious.

Cheers,

Seth

BTW, my new 335i arrives tommorrow!!!!!!

lol, ok.... i'm a 24 y.o. entrepreneur too and own enough sh!t as well, but nobody will quit their current job to work for free for few months.... and if people in a financial position already, i doubt anyone will switch to unknown... and "Only about 1 out of 4 recruits make it past the first three months.", that means, people will work for you for free and then if something won't work out you can always pull that excuse.... sounds like a bunch of bullsh!t to me
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 01:52 PM   #7
flush01
Major
47
Rep
1,419
Posts

Drives: 33m@%#ing5
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: toronto

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 335i=:)
I just received the following pm. I will post my response here so that I don't end up answering the same questions over and over.

I am curious to see what your business plan is all about. Does location matter? PM me back details


The position is basically for a straight commission inside phone sales job. Selling business opportunities. Such as, how to make money in various aspects of real estate investing, debt settlement. No, you don't need to know anything about the business plans/training/coaching/leads your selling. You are selling the "dream" of making money, in other words, you talk to people about their debt, retirement, and other financially motivating problem areas in their life and then you sell them the money making vehicle that will solve their problems. After the sale is made, your job is done. There are scripts to use initially for training.

Yes, location does matter. As of now, you would have to work in SLC, UT.
It's possible to do the job anywhere however it's to time consuming to train anyone out of state. Regardless of how good of a salesman you might think you are, there is a reason I have to play my salespeople so much. Even though there is a script to read and to some that might seem elementary, like I said before, only 1 out of four make it past there months. That's including, lawyer's, MBA's, etc. In the past I've had guys with no sales experiece who been doing labor for years run circles around MBA's/lawyers.

Cheers
ok now I know exactly what you do, and I was right, it's 100% bullsh!t....
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 01:56 PM   #8
335i=:)
Second Lieutenant
31
Rep
290
Posts

Drives: 335i sedan-blk/blk-Poplar
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: utah

iTrader: (0)

Hmmm, I didn't expect so much negativity about a simple opportunity.

It is common in positions that have major potential to be performance based, and because of this most will fail. It the average joe could do the job, I would pay them 30k/year.

Please let's keep this focused on those who are interested. There's no reason for anyone to be negative. I haven't attacked anyone, just looking for recruits.

Thanks!
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 01:58 PM   #9
flush01
Major
47
Rep
1,419
Posts

Drives: 33m@%#ing5
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: toronto

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 335i=:)
Hmmm, I didn't expect so much negativity about a simple opportunity.

It is common in positions that have major potential to be performance based, and because of this most will fail. It the average joe could do the job, I would pay them 30k/year.

Please let's keep this focused on those who are interested. There's no reason for anyone to be negative. I haven't attacked anyone, just looking for recruits.

Thanks!
ok thats cool... i didn't attack anyone as well, just said my opinion
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 02:03 PM   #10
335i=:)
Second Lieutenant
31
Rep
290
Posts

Drives: 335i sedan-blk/blk-Poplar
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: utah

iTrader: (0)

That's including, lawyer's, MBA's, etc. In the past I've had guys with no sales experiece who been doing labor for years run circles around MBA's/lawyers.

I wanted to clarify one thing before any lawyer's/mba's get insulted. One of my two top guys has an MBA. I was just making point that it's not necessary to have specialized training/degrees for this job. However, any business experience will always come in handy, understating the obvious here.
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 04:11 PM   #11
Bimmerista
Major General
Bimmerista's Avatar
Canada
85
Rep
5,732
Posts

Drives: superstock
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada

iTrader: (0)

How much money will it cost me so you can tell me about THIS business opportunity

Sorry-no offense intended but couldn't resist.
__________________
__________________________
2016 435 xdrive GC white on black leather interior, Msport1, Msport2, premium package
2015 Lincoln MKX, silver on brown leather, premium package - that's right! Techno-Groovy baby
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 04:25 PM   #12
NaTuReB0Y
Powered By 36DD
NaTuReB0Y's Avatar
United_States
366
Rep
7,369
Posts

Drives: 2006 E90
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Inland Empire

iTrader: (12)

Do you pay for Health Benefits....and what about retirement funds?
__________________
2006 E90 330i Jet Black | 20" WORK VS-XX | FK452 | H&R Sport on Koni Yellow | REMUS QUAD
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 04:57 PM   #13
Annette
Trapped in Country-Land!
Annette's Avatar
United_States
6
Rep
34
Posts

Drives: 2007 Navigator, Soon a 335i!
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Wyoming

iTrader: (0)

Reminds me of one of those business scams... not to be rude, just my opinion Congrats on the 335
__________________
Annette

2007 335i Coupe (Delivery in January!)
Alpine White | Coral Red | Aluminum | Manual | Sport | Premium | Comfort Access | Coldweather | ACC | Navi | RearSunShade | PDC
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 05:22 PM   #14
335i=:)
Second Lieutenant
31
Rep
290
Posts

Drives: 335i sedan-blk/blk-Poplar
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: utah

iTrader: (0)

Do you pay for Health Benefits....and what about retirement funds?


No bene's. No retirement funds.

the 15% you save in taxes being paid 1099 vs w2 will easily cover the bene's and retirement funds.

Bene's and retirement funds are just another was of the MAN holding people down. I don't do that. Personally, I would much rather have a company give ME all the money possible as opposed to tying me down with bene's. That way I can invest them myself at much higher rates of return and with less risk.

Look at it like this, if you are self-employed (my salespeople) then you pay your own health insurance (tax dedcution). Also by being paid 1099 vs. w2 you are able to contribute to a SEP-Ira (self-employment-retirement) as well as a traditional or roth-ira like a w2-employee.

Traditional and Roth ira's a w2-employee is capped at about 4k max contribution. This is the same being paid 1099 however you also can contribute up to 25% of you income with a cap of 42k in pre-tax dollars. This is just one of the reasons it sux to be an employee and the governmet rewards business owners.

Personally, this year I will contribute 42k to my SEP ira but I cannot contribute to a roth or traditional because i make over 160k/year. I will then use the money from my sep ira and put it with a holding institution (equity trust) that allows me to self-direct it. I will use the money to loan to somebody to stop their foreclosure and I will charge them 5 points plus 14.5% interest on a five year loan. Each monthly payment received from the borrower will then be re-deposited into my SEP-ira so that I pay no taxes on the interest earned.

For all of you nay-sayers.............Your response is expected, I hear it everyday. The fact is, 95% of the country is broke or barely getting by so I would expect 19/20 people to recite the familiar saying "if it sounds to good to be true", ad nauseam, etc, etc.

And no, I do not "charge" anyone anything to work for me. The only expense one would incur would be potentially moving expenses and definately some basic office supplies, ie, headset, folders, pens, paper, etc. I cannot buy these things for someone because that would violate the laws pertaining to individuals being paid 1099, I could only purchase these things for someone if they were an employee. In otherwords, if you were local, you would need to invest a grand total of about 200-300 dollars to get started.
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 05:35 PM   #15
ska///235i
***** noob
ska///235i's Avatar
United_States
1414
Rep
10,477
Posts

Drives: 325xi>M235i>428GCx Mspor
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Boston

iTrader: (34)

Garage List
2006 325xi  [0.00]
LOL.....Pwahahahahahaha
__________________
2006 325xi (Sold)
2014 M235I (Current)
2015 428xi Gran Coupe (STB)
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 05:36 PM   #16
ska///235i
***** noob
ska///235i's Avatar
United_States
1414
Rep
10,477
Posts

Drives: 325xi>M235i>428GCx Mspor
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Boston

iTrader: (34)

Garage List
2006 325xi  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by 335i=:)
Hello all. I am a 27 year old entrepreneur. I own three companies currently and I am opening a fourth end of februrary 07'. I am located in SLC, UT and I don't have any other locations.

I opened my third company in october 05' and in our first year we did 4.5 million/sales with 10 salesman. 6 through 10 made over 200k/year, 3 through 5 made about 80-100 and the bottom two about 60k.

It is a inside only, straight commision paid 1099 (not w2), phone sales job.
For those of you who don't understand the tax advantages of being paid 1099
vs w2 think of it like this. If you make 100k/year and are paid w2 and you own a 400k house, you will most likely end up paying 30-35k in taxes (depending on how many kids, how much you contribute to retirement accounts, etc.). If you make 100k/year 1099 you will most likely pay around 10-20k taxes depending on variables.

I am selling Different types of business opportunities. In other words, turn-key type small business models, think franchises but on a smaller scale (300-30k packages, average sale 7k).

Top salesman who have already proved themselves over time have the opportunity to make partner in future companies (I can pop out about 1 new company every 1-2 years). For example, my top two salesman in my third company, this year made over 300k just from sales commision's and overrides alone. With my fourth company these two will be running the entire sales floor, and will have actual shares in the LLC, and therefore will share a % of the company profits. They will both make over 400k and up to about 700k depending on growth in the first year of course.

Feel free to post any questions.

One caveat to think about however. Only about 1 out of 4 recruits make it past the first three months. Also, you will need to be in a financial position such that you can handle not making money, at all, for the first couple months, due to the learning curve. Of course, some do great right from the get go. At the age of 22, I started as a salesman and made 6500, my first two weeks, I had no previous sales experience, and my previous job I was making 11/hr. This is the exception, not the rule.

Please post questions for everyone to see. Do not PM me unless your very serious.

Cheers,

Seth

BTW, my new 335i arrives tommorrow!!!!!!

Work for me...you don't even have to buy office supplies


Dear 335i=,

I am the manager of Auditing and Accounting department of BANK OF
AFRICA
(B.O.A) here in Ouagadougou, Burkina Faso.In my department we
discovered an
abandoned sum of US$20.5m dollars (TWENTY MILION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND
US
DOLLARS) in an account that belongs to one of our foreign customer who
died
along with his entire family in Jully 2003 in a plane crash.For more
information about the crash you can visit this site
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/africa...ash/index.html)


Since we got information about his death, we have been expecting his
next of
kin to come over and claim his money because we cannot release it
unless
some body applies for it as next of kin or a relation to the deceased
as
indicated in our banking guidlings and laws but unfortunately we learnt
that
all his supposed next of kin or relation died alongside with him at the
plane crash leaving nobody behind for the claim. It is therefore upon
this
discovery that I now decided to make this business proposal to you and
release the money to you as the next of kin or relation to the deceased
for
safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and we
don't want
this money to go into the bank treasury as unclaimed bill.

The banking law and guidline here stipulates that if such money
remained
unclaimed after fours years, the money will be transfered into the bank
treasury as unclaimed fund. The request of foreigner as next of kin in
this
business is occassioned by the fact that the customer was a foreigner
and
Burkinabe cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner.I agree that 30%
of
this money will be for you as a respect to the provision of a foriegn
account , 10% will be set aside for expenses incurred during the
business
and 60% would be for me Thereafter, I will visit your country for
disbursement according to the percentage indicated Therefore, to enable
the
immediate transfer of this fund to you arranged,you must apply first to
the
bank as relation or next of kin of the deceased with a text of
application
form that i will send to you when i hear from you,so i will like you to
send
to me your private telephone and fax number for easy and effective
communication and location where in the money will be remitted.

Upon receipt of your reply, I will send to you by fax or email the text
of
the application . I will not fail to bring to your notice this
transaction
is hitch-free and that you should not entertain any atom of fear as all
required arrangements have been made for the transfer. You should
contact me
immediately as soon as you receive this letter.Trusting to hear from
you
immediately.


Yours Faithfully,

Ska
__________________
2006 325xi (Sold)
2014 M235I (Current)
2015 428xi Gran Coupe (STB)
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 07:06 PM   #17
335i=:)
Second Lieutenant
31
Rep
290
Posts

Drives: 335i sedan-blk/blk-Poplar
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: utah

iTrader: (0)

Good bye.
Appreciate 0
      11-24-2006, 07:50 PM   #18
ska///235i
***** noob
ska///235i's Avatar
United_States
1414
Rep
10,477
Posts

Drives: 325xi>M235i>428GCx Mspor
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Boston

iTrader: (34)

Garage List
2006 325xi  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by 335i=:)
Good bye.
Thank you
__________________
2006 325xi (Sold)
2014 M235I (Current)
2015 428xi Gran Coupe (STB)
Appreciate 0
Closed Thread

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:48 PM.




g87
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST