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      01-10-2011, 06:10 PM   #1
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Some BMW Catches on fire after spinning wheels on ice (WTF Video within)

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/wea...ar.wxia?hpt=C2
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      01-10-2011, 06:13 PM   #2
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Yeah we had some really bad weather (snow/ice) here last night and this morning. I happened to see this live on TV this morning about 7:30. All they could say was that he had been spinning his wheels and couldn't get up a hill; then he backed into the gas station and the car burned up. I don't see a connection between spinning tires in snow and catching fire. But what do I know . . .
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      01-10-2011, 06:19 PM   #3
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      01-10-2011, 06:25 PM   #4
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You guys act as if you have never seen this before. Happens all the time--get stuck in the snow spin the tires--engine catches on fire. This is bizzare, I am guessing there was some prior damage and the guy revving the engine and getting it hot was the final straw.
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      01-10-2011, 06:37 PM   #5
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High engine speeds + no air flow = fail.


I say if we were to take out the ice on the road and put the thing on a dyno with no fans infront of it and just let the idiot "go" 50mph you'd see the same result.
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      01-10-2011, 07:15 PM   #7
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Maybe he was just trying to melt some of the ice.
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      01-10-2011, 08:17 PM   #10
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      01-10-2011, 08:28 PM   #11
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happens pretty often in the snow. ppl get stuck and rev the crap out of their engine and its working just as hard but its not getting the passing air to cool it and the radiator. in this case what it looked it, spinning the tires for too long and the friction and the heat can cause your tire to pop or other mechanical failure causing ignition and combustion. sucks.


happened to a guy stuck outside my friends house. got it all on home surveillance cameras.
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      01-10-2011, 08:31 PM   #12
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Doing that creates a serious amount of heat,he must of been spinning for a long time which people do when stuck like other poster stated "lots of heat with no air flow"
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      01-10-2011, 08:32 PM   #13
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Lol. Yes more gas will help when you're spinning ur wheels in snow...
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How does it generate a lot of heat?

If there is no traction, then the engine cannot be working hard spinning the wheels. You may as well be revving it in neutral.

Likewise, the tyres can't get hot. If they were to get hot, that means there is a reasonable amount of friction. If there is friction, then you have traction and you will be moving not spinning your wheels.
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What an idiot. A/S tires do not work on ice. No doubt he decided to pull off to the side because he overheated.
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You may as well be revving it in neutral.
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That's all it takes. Run you vehicle up to redline in neutral for 5 minutes and your car will catch fire as well. The exhaust manifolds get red hot w/no air flow.

http://bmwheaven.com/index.php/compo...gory&catid=216
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That's all it takes. Run you vehicle up to redline in neutral for 5 minutes and your car will catch fire as well. The exhaust manifolds get red hot w/no air flow.

http://bmwheaven.com/index.php/compo...gory&catid=216
A car should not burn under any condition other than a mech failure or accident. Revving is not an excuse for fire. Further investigation is needed here.
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Wow - and it happened right next to a gas station!
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How does it generate a lot of heat?

If there is no traction, then the engine cannot be working hard spinning the wheels. You may as well be revving it in neutral.

Likewise, the tyres can't get hot. If they were to get hot, that means there is a reasonable amount of friction. If there is friction, then you have traction and you will be moving not spinning your wheels.
There is traction, it is minute but there is traction. It's not enough to get the car out but your tires can smoke and smell like burning rubber when its just spinning and not going anywhere. The friction is there, its all there, the snow is holding the car back because on an open diff the wheel w/ the real traction won't spin. The other wheel will spin and heat up.


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A car should not burn under any condition other than a mech failure or accident. Revving is not an excuse for fire. Further investigation is needed here.
No this is a very plausible situation. I guess the guy doesn't know how to drive in snow since this is Atlanta and all. When stuck in the snow do not just rev like crazy, not only does it work against you by digging you in, scenarios like this one arise. When you feel like you're stuck, your best friend is reverse. Rock her gently

this happens often in snow.
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      01-11-2011, 10:06 AM   #21
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Who knows for how long he had been spinning his tires.
Even so, it seems strange the lit up, the friction certainly isn't the same hence engine load wouldn't be either.

Although the guy seemed to be reving it like mad and as stated this might not be the best way to get out of somwhere when you're stuck.

A little bit of rough sand under the tires works best, if you´re stuck like he seemed to be.

For sure my cars haven't caught fire when spinning on ice, all the nannies are off if no kids are riding along.
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      01-11-2011, 11:14 AM   #22
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How does it generate a lot of heat?

If there is no traction, then the engine cannot be working hard spinning the wheels. You may as well be revving it in neutral.

Likewise, the tyres can't get hot. If they were to get hot, that means there is a reasonable amount of friction. If there is friction, then you have traction and you will be moving not spinning your wheels.
You obviously don't know how an engine works....let alone a battery.

And of course there is friction at the tires. You see them spinning right? Are they not contacting the ground? Are they floating? No.

Friction doesn't always mean traction. What do you think happens when you rub your hand together? Friction. Heat. If you were to get "traction" your hands would not rub against each other and get stuck. No heat. But there is still friction as you cannot move your hands....more like resistance but it's still a form of friction.

Fail....

I bet the driver didn't have snows on....

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