[eamon]

I ve heard so many negative comments on the 335i and hpfp failures and I was wondering how reliable these cars would be in the long run w/o warranty.

I understand a lot of these negative comments on the 335i pop up because people mainly get on to complain, but that would be great to know ahead of time if this car is a keeper or not.

Im talking 100,000 miles down the road. I mean extended warranty wont cover this car forever.

So what are the chances of the turbos or hpfp going out around 100,000 miles. Im assuming that would be very costly out of pocket? Do turbos go out often?

[FVM3]

if you are planning to drive like 150,000 miles, go for 328i

[Syndicategt]

It's a turbo charged car, yes they will go out eventually. You pay the price of having a forced induction car as there are more moving parts, more heat, and more chances of things going wrong. The turbos spin at rediculously high rpm and get extremely hot, any car or truck with a turbo will have one fail eventually. Most common turbo problems are wastegate rattle and leaking bearings.

You are looking at $700 x 2 for the turbos, $150 for misc parts, and roughly 8-13 hours of labor ($100ish an hour) so thats about $3000 out of pocket.

[FVM3]

i dont mind buying a high mileage car but not a 335i because i know that 335i doesnt last as long as NA cars

[username604]

let's just say i'm not buying another forced induction car for a while.
so far its been good to me, but i know the turbos will fail within the 12-15 years i plan on keeping this car, i know that sounds crazy on this board, but i've got a friend with a civic that has 240k miles on it, and it runs pretty well.
i got the car when i was 16, and plan to keep it till i'm 28 or so.
repairing my old bmw cant cost more than buying a new one ...or can it?


all the problems are well documented, and for my 8 years of college it won't be driven much except back home a couple times each month

[FVM3]

JDM cars last forever,no joke, ive seen toyota previa with 500K miles and still runs strong with power moon roof, ice cold A/C ...

[eamon]

Originally Posted by Syndicategt

It's a turbo charged car, yes they will go out eventually. You pay the price of having a forced induction car as there are more moving parts, more heat, and more chances of things going wrong. The turbos spin at rediculously high rpm and get extremely hot, any car or truck with a turbo will have one fail eventually. Most common turbo problems are wastegate rattle and leaking bearings.

You are looking at $700 x 2 for the turbos, $150 for misc parts, and roughly 8-13 hours of labor ($100ish an hour) so thats about $3000 out of pocket.

so far I'm not hearing the good things i was hoping for haha.

Of course japanese cars last forever... too bad they dont make BMW!

I dont plan on keeping it past 100,000 but we ll see
Its just that i love this car way too much to see it go if you know what i mean

[eamon]

how many people on this board actually replaced their turbos??
I just want to know the expenses I may be looking at. or the probability of it..
I hope it's not too bad......

[FVM3]

Originally Posted by eamon

so far I'm not hearing the good things i was hoping for haha.

Of course japanese cars last forever... too bad they dont make BMW!

I dont plan on keeping it past 100,000 but we ll see
Its just that i love this car way too much to see it go if you know what i mean

if you are just keeping until 100,000 then dont worry about it. Warranty covers the hpfp til 120,000 miles but not sure how many miles on the turbo.

[Syndicategt]

Originally Posted by eamon

how many people on this board actually replaced their turbos??
I just want to know the expenses I may be looking at. or the probability of it..
I hope it's not too bad......

I have seen lots of people get them replace prior to hitting 50k, but they were all tuned and running x2 the boost. I'm at 56k and I'm replacing mine because the front turbo is leaking oil from the bearings (can smoke pretty bad sometimes). I'm bought upgraded turbos from Rob Beck and it's costing me roughly $4500 installed.

Unless you have an extended warranty past the 50K, it will be out of your wallet.

[eamon]

Originally Posted by christopherchenm

if you are just keeping until 100,000 then dont worry about it. Warranty covers the hpfp til 120,000 miles but not sure how many miles on the turbo.

I thought this was for the 07 and 08 cars so far... Maybe im wrong?
Im 99% sure not past 120k miles

[ABerry]

Originally Posted by eamon

how many people on this board actually replaced their turbos??
I just want to know the expenses I may be looking at. or the probability of it..
I hope it's not too bad......

I had mine replaced by BMWNA due to wastegate rattle which was fixed once with replacing the actuators in November, but came back in Feb with a vengeance... so at 48k mi I have 2 brand new turbos and the 07 vs 08+ are different model turbos, there is no wastegate rattle on the new revisions) total price through dealer 3000x2 + 2000 labor = $8000 (they practically have to drop the engine to install them)

I am absolutely selling this car soon after my CPO ends Jan 2013..

[michaelalex17]

has anyone had to get their turbos replaced with just a tune and no other mods? like a jb3 on map 5 and an intake an no other mods. running like 14psi and about 10psi at the shift

[Syndicategt]

Originally Posted by ABerry

total price through dealer 3000x2 + 2000 labor = $8000 (they practically have to drop the engine to install them

Wow if that wasn't under warranty I'd tell them to keep the car! They rape you with fees! You can buy brand new turbos from Tischer at $700 each (200% dealer mark up is fraud and abuse!)

https://www.trademotion.com/partloca...layCatalogid=0

The labor fee is about right, takes about 13 hours of labor.

[FVM3]

Originally Posted by eamon

I thought this was for the 07 and 08 cars so far... Maybe im wrong?
Im 99% sure not past 120k miles

yes and what year is yours?

[michaelalex17]

Originally Posted by ABerry

the 07 vs 08+ are different model turbos, there is no wastegate rattle on the new revisions

is this true? so the 08 models have less turbo problems then the 07's?

[eamon]

As stated in my sig or whatever it is an 09 like yours

edit: my bad... apparently I didnt save my sig

[FVM3]

Originally Posted by ABerry

I had mine replaced by BMWNA due to wastegate rattle which was fixed once with replacing the actuators in November, but came back in Feb with a vengeance... so at 48k mi I have 2 brand new turbos and the 07 vs 08+ are different model turbos, there is no wastegate rattle on the new revisions) total price through dealer 3000x2 + 2000 labor = $8000 (they practically have to drop the engine to install them)

I am absolutely selling this car soon after my CPO ends Jan 2013..

whats the difference between 07 and 08 turbo ?

[michaelalex17]

i just asked that haha

[Syndicategt]

Originally Posted by michaelalex17

is this true? so the 08 models have less turbo problems then the 07's?

According to Tischer's website, the turbos are identical from 07-10 see my post above with the hyperlink

[FVM3]

Originally Posted by Syndicategt

According to Tischer's website, the turbos are identical from 07-10 see my post above with the hyperlink

i think they are the same

[michaelalex17]

he said their is no waste gate rattle on the new turbos. isnt it something like the software changed and not the turbos themselves and made the turbos not get that wastegate rattle?