[Coupecar19]

Do you think the new turbo Kia will have some tuner chips. And have any of you ever driven on, they look pretty cool. But I'd never buy one

[JBE90335]

i think they look good. 44 more hp then I have. Too bad it's FWD.

[Q4P]

All turbo cars can be tuned but unfortunately you just compared 2 cars of 2 completely different classes. That particular turbo 4 Kia motor will not have the same potential as an N54 nor will it be a car close to the same class as it is still a FWD family sedan.

[jvsxn]

Rephrased: BMW or KIA?

[RnmEvo9]

Originally Posted by Coupecar19

Do you think the new turbo Kia will have some tuner chips. And have any of you ever driven on, they look pretty cool. But I'd never buy one

Since you are 19, did you mean you can't afford it?

[John 070]

The Kia looks way better, have you seen one up close? Sunroof goes all the way across to the rear. As far as road feel though, they have a long way to go. They might be able to take a 328 but not a 335.

[akirk18]

I did recently drive one and i thought it was a pretty nice car. Especially for what it costs. I really liked the ventilated seats in it and i thought the panoramic sunroof was awesome but the quality wasn't nearly the same. The engine felt fine for around town driving but left a lot to be wanted at highway speeds. I personally would of considered it a little more if it was rear wheel drive or at least awd. But it did offer a lot for a $30k car fully loaded.

[Coupecar19]

Originally Posted by RnmEvo9

Since you are 19, did you mean you can't afford it?

From the guy who drives a 1 series LOOOOOL and don't come back with the response it faster and handles better because it weighs less. NICE TRY AND FYI I got a BMW.

[ndog14]

Originally Posted by Coupecar19

From the guy who drives a 1 series LOOOOOL and don't come back with the response it faster and handles better because it weighs less. NICE TRY AND FYI I got a BMW.

Seriously, wtf. Grow up. I am 19 too but I am not stupid nor reckless nor cocky. The 1 series was designed to go back to the driving feel of the E30 M3. Way to shoot yourself in the foot, leg, stomach, arm, and head.

[RnmEvo9]

Originally Posted by Coupecar19

From the guy who drives a 1 series LOOOOOL and don't come back with the response it faster and handles better because it weighs less. NICE TRY AND FYI I got a BMW.

Cant wait to compare the before and after pictures if true.

[username604]

Originally Posted by ndog14

Seriously, wtf. Grow up. I am 19 too but I am not stupid nor reckless nor cocky. The 1 series was designed to go back to the driving feel of the E30 M3. Way to shoot yourself in the foot, leg, stomach, arm, and head.

Too bad it under steers and handles worse than the "larger" 3 series. You just shot your left nut.

Seriously though, are you guys bagging on what each other drives?

[HitBoostTwinTurbo]

You did NOT just compare BMW to kia.......................

[merchomini]

not gonna lie, the numbers that they have for that motor is pretty impressive. Kia has been making some moves, and they have heated steering wheel, heated seats, air conditioned seats...........the fully loaded cars arent exactly cheap they are like 30k i believe. but still for all those options and a good mpg car, with some power not to bad. I think it looks pretty good to.


but alas it fwd.......id guess that most people buying it wont care to much, i mean hell ppl bought the srt4........and that things a pile of shit.



o well cant compare it to bmw, but if kia is making that power that just means the standard gets set higher for everyone

[merchomini]

also iv seen some tuned and modded hyundai gensis coupes with the 2.0t that make some pretty good power. with new turbos they can get mid 400s i believe. so maybe the kia can get some cool mods.

[taibanl]

Originally Posted by davidkneiber

Too bad it under steers and handles worse than the "larger" 3 series. You just shot your left nut.

Seriously though, are you guys bagging on what each other drives?

dude. I test drove both and bought e90 but there is no way it handles as well as the one

[NewNole2001]

Sat in my BIL's Optima SX (GDI Turbo) on Thanksgiving. Given that I currently drive a 2010 Ford Fusion (328i Convertible in production), I figure I can offer an apples-to-apples comparison, though I didn't drive it. The interior is on par with my Fusion, which has the top end option package. The panoramic sunroof with power shades is huge and is nice even in the back seat, though only the front sunroof actually opens. The steering wheel has at least twice as many buttons as my Fusion Hybrid has, but is on par (in terms of buttons) with the steering wheel in the newer Fords that have the navi and stereo integrated in to the dashboard.

The back seat has plenty of legroom and comfortably sat myself and two other full size adults when I rode in it.

It really does seem to be an awesome car if you're looking for a family sedan. My BIL traded in his Jeep Commander for the Optima and is extremely happy. My sister drives a 2003 325 convertible and loves it, but even she admits that the Kia is a nice car, especially for the price.

(And sorry for all the Ford comparisons, I've driven a Ford since 2009 and frequented their forums, so its what I know for now)

[mashimarho]

They are nice... But, in the end... The Kia is still a Kia.
Get out of the car... take five steps, turn around...

Its a Kia.

You get what you pay for.

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by merchomini

not gonna lie, the numbers that they have for that motor is pretty impressive. Kia has been making some moves, and they have heated steering wheel, heated seats, air conditioned seats...........the fully loaded cars arent exactly cheap they are like 30k i believe. but still for all those options and a good mpg car, with some power not to bad. I think it looks pretty good to.


but alas it fwd.......id guess that most people buying it wont care to much, i mean hell ppl bought the srt4........and that things a pile of shit.



o well cant compare it to bmw, but if kia is making that power that just means the standard gets set higher for everyone

The SRT4 as a car was a POS, but the motor was pretty solid and could push respectable numbers with mods...for the $$, it was a decent purchase as a starter car for beginner tuners...

[Bakeme521]

Originally Posted by Coupecar19

From the guy who drives a 1 series LOOOOOL and don't come back with the response it faster and handles better because it weighs less. NICE TRY AND FYI I got a BMW.

Please tell me how a turbo 4 kia is faster and handles better than a 135i. Seriously, enlighten me with facts. I am very curious as to why you think since its lighter it is automatically faster and handles better.

A geo metro is a lot lighter than my 335, but I promise you it doesn't handle as well nor is it faster. Seriously, give me facts, I want to know where you got this from.

[RnmEvo9]

Originally Posted by Bakeme521

Please tell me how a turbo 4 kia is faster and handles better than a 135i. Seriously, enlighten me with facts. I am very curious as to why you think since its lighter it is automatically faster and handles better.

A geo metro is a lot lighter than my 335, but I promise you it doesn't handle as well nor is it faster. Seriously, give me facts, I want to know where you got this from.

He's 19...



(Not all 19 year olds are bad, but this one sure is)

[Coolieman1220]

they suck at turning, no handaling

[jonnylin1]

exterior wise...335 wins in any given day in any angle lol.

the rear of the kia isnt terrible, but front end