[sflgator]

What are the chances that BMW steps it up over the next few months (in time for the MY 2008 X5) and drops in the N54 F/I tt engine and calls it the 2008 BMW X5 3.5i????

I'm hoping that they don't wait another year to do this (for MY '09) since we may be getting my wife into an X5 3.0 this Dec.

Any thoughts, insight, or even better...any inside info???

[BMW F22]

that's seriously gonna piss a lot of curren X5 owners off- just like what they did the the 3 series.

[Greeney]

Its only like 18 more bhp than what is in the 3.0 now... I guess the TQ would help though.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Greeney

Its only like 18 more bhp than what is in the 3.0 now... I guess the TQ would help though.

No...no...no. I'm talking about the N54 tt (gas) engine, not the turbo diesel. It's the same N54 engine in the 335i and the 535i...you know, 300+BHP/300+TQ. It only makes sense (since the X5 3.0 weighs almost 5,000 lbs. and needs more power), but the question is when...MY '08 or '09?

[uberschnell]

Everyone knows the N54 is making more then 300 bhp + Euro Tuner is saying this will be a tuned version of the N54 putting out more HP then the 335.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Magna3

Everyone knows the N54 is making more then 300 bhp + Euro Tuner is saying this will be a tuned version of the N54 putting out more HP then the 335.

OMG. I'm fully aware that it makes more HP/TQ than on paper; I have a 335i and my car dyno'd stock @ 265 WHP / 286 lb.-ft. RWTQ before my XEDE install; now I have the PROcede in my 335i. I'm at ~ 322 WHP / 378 lb.-ft. RWTQ (which is what my car dyno'd at after the XEDE install...PROcede should be about the same or higher).

All I want to know is if BMW will drop this engine into the '08 X5 3.0 or wait another year for the MY '09 X5 3.0?

[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by sflgator

OMG. I'm fully aware that it makes more HP/TQ than on paper; I have a 335i and my car dyno'd stock @ 265WHP/286 lb.-ft. RWTQ before my XEDE install; now I have the PROcede in my 335i.

All I want to know is if BMW will drop this engine into the '08 X5 3.0 or wait another year for the MY '09 X5 3.0?

Im sure the N54 will eventually make its way onto the X5- I just dont know when. Maybe E90Fleet can chime in on this.

[Jaws]

Originally Posted by BMWE90

that's seriously gonna piss a lot of curren X5 owners off- just like what they did the the 3 series.

Manufacturers don't care about that whatsoever. It's all about product enhancement (making consumers insecure about their previous choices).

[sflgator]

Bump. Maybe E90Fleet has some insight?

[hkwallace328]

i don't think it'll come until facelift

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by hkwallace328

i don't think it'll come until facelift

That doesn't really have anything to do with it; although the E92 335i Coupe got a major facelift and got the N54 F/I tt engine, the E90 335i Sedan also received the same N54 engine and it didn't have much of a facelift at all between MY '06 and MY '07...the '07 E90 335i Sedan it looks nearly identical to the '06 E90 330i Sedan, except for the twin exhaust pipes in the back and some other very minor changes.

The N54 F/I tt engine WILL go into the X5 3.0 (maybe called the X5 3.5i? ) It's just a matter of when...'08 or '09. BMW knows that the current N/A X5 3.0 is underpowered, especially relative to its competitors...the MB ML350, MB R350, Acura MDX (with 300HP engine), Lexus RX350, Audi Q7 3.6L, etc. I just hope they drop in the F/I tt N54 engine sooner rather than later.

[sflgator]

for a response from E90Fleet...where are u, man?

[sflgator]

for anyone who might have some insight/update on this. I would think someone must know what's going on for MY '08 since it's almost Aug. and the '08's should be getting on the assembly line in the next 2 months for the first arrivals in Oct.

[EVO_S4]

from X5world, there is going to be same engine with the new addition of regular diesel(235hp and around 400tq)

[sflgator]

Well, my wife and I test drove a couple of MB SUVs today...the R350 and the GL450.

Let's just say that although it's very roomy inside, the R350 drove like a floaty Buick POS!!! The R350 has horrible blind spots, it drives like crap (floats around like a boat), the brakes aren't that great, it handles like crap and was rough over bumps, it's got very little headroom (my wife is 5'6" and I'm 5'8" tall...and I almost hit the headliner in the back seat) and it does absolutely nothing when you step on the gas (other than whine like a red-headed step-child). I was also not impressed with the lack of quality in that large, ugly minivan/station wagon looking boat. Even my wife agreed that the MB R350 isn't even in the same class as the BMW X5 3.0 as far as driving characteristics are concerned. She just really likes how much more space it has compared with the other SUVs. Anyway, needless to say...the R350 is out for us (and we're not even considering the V8-powered R500).

Then, we test drove the MB GL450...much more power, decent cargo space (although not quite as much as the R350), more upscale look and feel, and better driving characteristics (handled better, smoother over bumps, and with the 335HP V8, it was much more powerful). The only problems with this SUV are similar blind spots as the R350, it has the same ridiculous, non-intuitive short transmission gear stalk behind the steering wheel ..what's that about? , and the high price (fairly loaded with similar options as the X5...it's ~ $69k with a discount off of the $71k MSRP...yikes ). Anyway, we're going to get some numbers from the Fleet Mgr. on an '08 GL450 -- 36-mo./12k mi./yr. lease (MF for the '08 GL450 is ~ 0.0021 - 0.0024), but I have a feeling it's going to be ~ $1,000+/mo. compared with a similarly equipped '08 X5 at ~ $750/mo.

So, now we're most likely down to an '08 X5 or an '08 Acura MDX...the two "smaller" SUVs of our choices...but the two that drive so much better than the overpriced and much overrated MB SUVs. I really don't like MB.

I think if the '08 BMW X5 gets the N54 F/I tt engine, that will seal the deal...for me anyway ; even if it stays with a 3.0 N/A engine, my wife doesn't care and she may opt for the X5 anyway.

[EVO_S4]

did you consider the ML550, 382hp

[mrbenyong]

its CONFIRMed that the facelift of the bmw x5 will be getting the 3.0 TT and 4.4 TT. but that facelift will probably be in 2 years or so