[Billyray911]

After a substantial thread on the issue by members,Pistonheads have now written an editorial on the obd theft issue...

http://mobile.pistonheads.com/gassin...+BMW+in+3+mins

[zltm089]

very worrying...and i saw on another thread that if you press the lock button twice it actually disables the sensors/ or "repeat" function of the alarm?!!!...

[Billyray911]

Originally Posted by zltm089

very worrying...and i saw on another thread that if you press the lock button twice it actually disables the sensors/ or "repeat" function of the alarm?!!!...

Youre right,it disables the interior sensors!
I think that a lot of owners are pressing the arm button twice in the mistaken belief that it 'deadlocks' their car as was the case in other marques.
This maybe part of the reason why the alarm isn't sounding when the glass is broken to access the obd.

[zltm089]

yeah! ...i do that aswell.....just to make sure its "properly" locked....very bad habit!...

[AlanQS]

Double clicking the close button on the fob also disables the anti-tilt sensor as well which makes it easier to nick wheels or put on a trailer.

[zltm089]

bloody hell!!!!...is this written in the user manual?????????....surely BMW should at least inform its customers about these "options"!!!!.....like you can start the engine even after removing the keyfob!!!!!!......

[G_M_S]

It's a feature that I use when leaving the dogs in the car - and of course just by looking at the Red Sensor below the rear view mirror you can tell whether the deactivation has happened (what I don't know is how long this stays on for)?

What about total closure / folding wing mirrors etc - usually they require the key fob to be held down for 10's of seconds?

[parapaul]

Originally Posted by zltm089

bloody hell!!!!...is this written in the user manual?????????....surely BMW should at least inform its customers about these "options"!!!!.....like you can start the engine even after removing the keyfob!!!!!!......

Calm down! yes, it's ALL in the user manual.

And the engine starting thing - if you're worried that someone could slip into your car and start it in the 10 or 20 seconds that the immobiliser stays deactivated for, you should probably take your tinfoil hat off

[zltm089]

Parapaul, I live in east London...people would steal dog shit in a shoe box here!

[parapaul]

Originally Posted by G_M_S

What about total closure / folding wing mirrors etc - usually they require the key fob to be held down for 10's of seconds?

Exactly. a double press disarms the internal sensors, a long press closes the windows. BMW decided that adults would be able to make their fingers perform the correct actions...

[parapaul]

Originally Posted by zltm089

Parapaul, I live in east London...people would steal dog shit in a shoe box here!

lock it (ONE PRESS) then stand and wait for 20 seconds if you're worried...

[zltm089]

Originally Posted by parapaul

lock it (ONE PRESS) then stand and wait for 20 seconds if you're worried...

LOL...ohh no...I was referring to the option of starting the car without the keyfob in the slot!

I hope you know about this "option"!

[parapaul]

Originally Posted by zltm089

LOL...ohh no...I was referring to the option of starting the car without the keyfob in the slot!

I hope you know about this "option"!

Yeah - exactly this. Once you take the key out, the immobiliser is only deactivated for about 20 seconds, same as with almost every car. You can't just start the car without a key whenever you want, that would be ridiculous...

[shrink]

worth noting that with the engine starting without the fob issue... if theres a door opened or closed in between removing the fob and pressing the button, the system doesnt allow it. So no ones going to get into your car and make off with it

[zltm089]

Originally Posted by shrink

worth noting that with the engine starting without the fob issue... if theres a door opened or closed in between removing the fob and pressing the button, the system doesnt allow it. So no ones going to get into your car and make off with it

AH!....good to know...

otherwise, you could find yourself without a key to start the car again if you happen to forget the fob at home... me being stupid again...

[dopper99]

Does this problem go away in the F30? I was looking at one the other day and there didnt appear to be anywhere to plug a key into the dash.

[Nick the Greek]

Keyless start on F30.

[wheelie good]

So is the coder used to disable the alarm system first then put the key into the car then code it to the car

Because if you need to the key into the dashboard first then would the alarm sensor pick the persons movement

[BIFCAIDS]

[philreid]

Looks like we're heading back to the days of steering wheel locks ...

Though I doubt I could ever bring myself to use such a thing!

[AlanYoro35i]

If they stole my car i would follow them and break all their legs for the trade off for stealing my stuff. Anyone else would do this make sure u wear a mask and don't retrieve your vechicle after breaking their legs . Just get home n call the police And say your car is stolen

[shrink]

well ive never worried about additional security on a car before.. but since finding out about this stuff, i raided my cupboard and found a stoplock pro that my mate gave me a few months back. It now goes on the car each night!