Difference between DTC modes?

George Chronis · 11-12-2005, 08:58 AM

What's the difference between DTC off when you press the button once and when you depress it for a couple of seconds? From the manual it sounds like the computer has some control of the car when DTC is off after pressing the button and the driver has complete control when DTC is off after pressing the button for a couple of seconds. Does anyone have more details on this?

Oz · 11-12-2005, 09:54 AM

This video might be helpful to see the difference betweel all the modes http://www.e90post.com/goodiesforyou/330-E90-1.wmv

Broken1 · 11-12-2005, 10:01 AM

Okay:

DSC ON - This is the default mode the car resets to each time you start it - There are no warning lights on the dash.
This mode has full functionality, DSC will kick in when it encounters any slip, oversteer, or understeer and use any of the systems necassary to keep you safe and driving where you want to. Obvoiusly, it only works within the laws of physics - it can only help soo much

DTC - This comes from pushing the DTC button once - DTC is shown on the dash.
DTC is a "lose" form of DSC - it allows some slippage for an advanced driver, or if you need to gain traction from slipping the tyres such as in slow. If the system senses the driver had lost complete control, it will kick in.

DSC OFF - this comes from holding the button for a few seconds.
All the stability control systems are off. This mode is not recommended unless you are an experienced driver on a race track.

Hope I cleared that up a bit for you...

Oz · 11-12-2005, 10:02 AM

You did clear it up for me again, thanks Broken1

George Chronis · 11-12-2005, 10:13 AM

Great responses. Thanks a lot to both!

nyfinest · 12-11-2005, 01:24 PM

Broken 1..best/concise explantion to date. Broken or not it worked for me!!!!!!

ase2dais · 12-11-2005, 06:20 PM

thks broken1, so my salesman was correct, when he said, "the only thing you need to know, is dont touch it"

Driv3r · 12-11-2005, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ase2dais

thks broken1, so my salesman was correct, when he said, "the only thing you need to know, is dont touch it"

these dealers think everyone is retarded eh?? the dealer told me the exact same thing. Boy should i take him for a ride, if anyone has seen my drift videos, ill scare the shit out of him...

poldim · 12-11-2005, 10:48 PM

Good explanation broken....

Examples of DSC Off may be found here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8974

nyfinest · 12-11-2005, 10:58 PM

Fun video's...got to love those no traction RF's!!!! As far as DTC is concerned as mom used to say "dont touch it"!!!!!

Rally guy · 01-05-2006, 10:37 AM

Does the same (excellent) explaination apply to the X-drive versions?

I am about to order a 330xi, and have a strong rallying background. I am totally comfortable (and most happy) at full opposite lock in an AWD car. Hoping that that is possible (every once in a while) with DSC turned off.

RK

kt157 · 01-05-2006, 06:25 PM

so i would turn it to "dsc off" to do a donut right?

j/p

i cant imagine myself beating up my car like that.
i tried it in the loaner (05 325i), but i cant seem to get it loose, maybe i wasn't trying hard enough.

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George Chronis Private 3 Rep 73 Posts Drives: 330i 2006 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Columbia, MO iTrader: (0)	Difference between DTC modes? What's the difference between DTC off when you press the button once and when you depress it for a couple of seconds? From the manual it sounds like the computer has some control of the car when DTC is off after pressing the button and the driver has complete control when DTC is off after pressing the button for a couple of seconds. Does anyone have more details on this? __________________ http://cybergeorge.net/
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Oz Lieutenant Colonel 33 Rep 1,770 Posts Drives: 2006 330i, 2004 X5 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wayne, NJ iTrader: (1) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	This video might be helpful to see the difference betweel all the modes http://www.e90post.com/goodiesforyou/330-E90-1.wmv __________________ 2006 330i Steptronic/Alpine White/Black Leather/Burl Walnut Trim/Premium Package/iDrive/Heated Seats/Winter: STYLE 159 Blizzak LM-22 RFT/Summer: TBD 2004 X5 Steptronic/Alpine White/Grey Leather/Poplar Trim/Premium Package/Heated Seats/iPod Adapter
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Broken1 Addict 203 Rep 2,074 Posts Drives: 2024 X5 40i M-Sport Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ontario iTrader: (0)	Okay: DSC ON - This is the default mode the car resets to each time you start it - There are no warning lights on the dash. This mode has full functionality, DSC will kick in when it encounters any slip, oversteer, or understeer and use any of the systems necassary to keep you safe and driving where you want to. Obvoiusly, it only works within the laws of physics - it can only help soo much DTC - This comes from pushing the DTC button once - DTC is shown on the dash. DTC is a "lose" form of DSC - it allows some slippage for an advanced driver, or if you need to gain traction from slipping the tyres such as in slow. If the system senses the driver had lost complete control, it will kick in. DSC OFF - this comes from holding the button for a few seconds. All the stability control systems are off. This mode is not recommended unless you are an experienced driver on a race track. Hope I cleared that up a bit for you...
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nyfinest My other car is below !!!! 10 Rep 356 Posts Drives: 08 328xi Cpe S Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NY iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 328xi Coupe [0.00] 2006 325i [0.00]	Fun video's...got to love those no traction RF's!!!! As far as DTC is concerned as mom used to say "dont touch it"!!!!! __________________ 08 328xi Cpe Sport Package-Step-Monaco Blue-Saddle Leather-Dark Burl Wood-Took Delivery 11/27
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01-05-2006, 10:37 AM	#11
Rally guy Happiest Sideways 3 Rep 37 Posts Drives: 2011 328xi, had 2006 330xi SGM Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	Does the same (excellent) explaination apply to the X-drive versions? I am about to order a 330xi, and have a strong rallying background. I am totally comfortable (and most happy) at full opposite lock in an AWD car. Hoping that that is possible (every once in a while) with DSC turned off. RK
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kt157 Captain 16 Rep 926 Posts Drives: jet black 330i Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: BayArea, CA iTrader: (1)	so i would turn it to "dsc off" to do a donut right? j/p i cant imagine myself beating up my car like that. i tried it in the loaner (05 325i), but i cant seem to get it loose, maybe i wasn't trying hard enough.
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