Benefits of the M-Shifter

MyE92 · 09-05-2007, 11:02 AM

I'm debating on whether or not to get the M-shifter for my E92. What are the benefits of put on the M-shifter, instead of keeping the stock shifter?

dinkoh · 09-05-2007, 11:10 AM

Are you referring to the M-shift knob? If so, its smaller and slightly heavier.

MyE92 · 09-05-2007, 11:18 AM

Yes, sorry the M-shift knob

dinkoh · 09-05-2007, 11:20 AM

To add, I think its pretty nice to use. But, the practical thing would be wait for a real M-shifter or a shorter shifter. Something similar in the Performance Sport accessorries.

tintivilus · 09-05-2007, 11:32 AM

I thought the stock shifter was way too tall and fidgety-feeling, so getting a shorter knob was a great improvement. Whether you get the M-Sport (perf leather) version or the "sport" version (looks just like stock, but shorter) is basically an aesthetic decision. I went M-Sport because i'm not a huge fan of the pearl-chrome trim on controls.

I realize that neither is a "short shifter" in the traditional sense, but shortening up the handle was a remarkable improvement in its own right.

MOTO69JOE · 09-05-2007, 12:57 PM

m shifter is way better than the stock unit. do it

FrankoQ · 09-05-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MOTO69JOE

m shifter is way better than the stock unit. do it

as said before, shorter, heavier. And matches with the perforated
steering wheel and brake handle

phantom330 · 09-05-2007, 01:47 PM

makes a huge difference. I have the e46 Perf Package one, and it makes the biggest differnce in how the shifting feels. Everytime I drive a car with the stock knob on it I remember how much worse it really is.

335Transformer · 09-09-2007, 08:54 PM

Wait and get the one for the '08 M when that is available. You won't have to deal with the ugliness of perforation.

A418t81 · 09-09-2007, 09:01 PM

Well worth it. I have the "sport" one without the perforated leather and I really enjoy the way it looks in the cabin and the slightly improved feel. The stock shifter looks downright ungainly when you've become used to the M or sport one.

Boondoggler · 09-10-2007, 12:22 PM

By itself it's a nice upgrade, not a huge difference IMO. In conjunction with the M-sport steering wheel, it's a really nice upgrade. The combination of the M-sport steering wheel, shifter and a true short shifter kit (like the Rogue Engineering Octane) is a great upgrade. Not sure if a true SSK is available yet for the e92, sorry if I'm taking the thread in an unintended direction.

M3 Esq · 09-15-2007, 05:57 PM

Any suggestions on who carries the M shift knob for E92? The stock one sucks to be blunt.

tmon25 · 09-15-2007, 06:03 PM

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...subcat2=121695
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...47&startrow=26

spacedogg · 09-15-2007, 06:46 PM

A shorter knob is more ergonomic and requires less movement when shifting. Theoretically, it does "shorten" your shift...thereby making it slightly faster. By 0.001 of a second maybe...LOL.

I'd say it's more of an ergonomic mod than a performance one. But something you will notice right away and appreciate since you use your knob and steering wheel everyday.

I created a list of knobs friendly to the E9x called "Playing with Knobs". If you search, it should come up. It should give you an idea of what else is out there.

BoostedBMW · 09-15-2007, 07:08 PM

I never thought that just a shift knob would be able to help out the feel of the gearbox so much, but the M shift knob really did improve the throw and feel drastically. Stock, it felt very tall and rubbery. I couldn't tell third from fifth, and coming from an s2000 it just felt like crap to be honest. Now, I no longer even feel the need for a short shifter for this car. It was definitely a mod worth doing.

spacedogg · 09-15-2007, 07:39 PM

Yeah...lets make no mistake...the short shift kit (SSK) from BMW will definately be a large improvement compared to just swapping out a short shift knob...just gotta justify the shop time and mod costs. Hehe.

stressdoc · 09-15-2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tintivilus

I thought the stock shifter was way too tall and fidgety-feeling, so getting a shorter knob was a great improvement. Whether you get the M-Sport (perf leather) version or the "sport" version (looks just like stock, but shorter) is basically an aesthetic decision. I went M-Sport because i'm not a huge fan of the pearl-chrome trim on controls.

I realize that neither is a "short shifter" in the traditional sense, but shortening up the handle was a remarkable improvement in its own right.

+1 It's such an easy and cheap DIY mod.

Jaws · 09-15-2007, 08:09 PM

I found the OEM knob to not fall readily to hand. The M knob is the perfect height and it feels better.

Benzwiz · 09-17-2007, 02:48 PM

Does anyone have this knob:

BMW Performance Shift Kit
claims 25% shorter throw?

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...subcat2=121695

Is it the same as the one talked about here:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23481

And if anyone has it, any thoughts? comparisons to the M-shift knob or the on above?

TIA

stressdoc · 09-17-2007, 03:00 PM

No, they are different items. One is just the knob, the other a short-shift kit.

The short shift kit would be very nice to have -- there are some others out there, maybe UUC (?), so shop around and see which fits your needs. They take some time to install.

Shift knobs are easy/quick to DIY install. IMO the best knob is the M-sport perforated leather one. teto.

Benzwiz · 09-17-2007, 03:42 PM

now is the "short shift kit" only for 330i's.. I think it ways it somewhere on the website.. and is it a DIYer?

ducati955 · 09-17-2007, 09:55 PM

do they have an m sport that is non preforated (w/o holes)?

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dinkoh Captain 21 Rep 877 Posts Drives: 07 e90 lemon/black Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: charm city --> bay area iTrader: (4)	Are you referring to the M-shift knob? If so, its smaller and slightly heavier.
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MyE92 El Presidente 278 Rep 6,962 Posts Drives: your mom wild. Join Date: May 2007 Location: NJ iTrader: (24)	Yes, sorry the M-shift knob
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dinkoh Captain 21 Rep 877 Posts Drives: 07 e90 lemon/black Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: charm city --> bay area iTrader: (4)	To add, I think its pretty nice to use. But, the practical thing would be wait for a real M-shifter or a shorter shifter. Something similar in the Performance Sport accessorries.
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tintivilus Lieutenant Colonel 26 Rep 1,826 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lake County, IL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E92 335i [0.00] 2003 325i [0.00]	I thought the stock shifter was way too tall and fidgety-feeling, so getting a shorter knob was a great improvement. Whether you get the M-Sport (perf leather) version or the "sport" version (looks just like stock, but shorter) is basically an aesthetic decision. I went M-Sport because i'm not a huge fan of the pearl-chrome trim on controls. I realize that neither is a "short shifter" in the traditional sense, but shortening up the handle was a remarkable improvement in its own right.
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MOTO69JOE Captain 27 Rep 876 Posts Drives: E46, E90 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The South iTrader: (3)	m shifter is way better than the stock unit. do it
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phantom330 Captain 18 Rep 892 Posts Drives: e93 335i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: OH iTrader: (0)	makes a huge difference. I have the e46 Perf Package one, and it makes the biggest differnce in how the shifting feels. Everytime I drive a car with the stock knob on it I remember how much worse it really is.
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335Transformer Captain 45 Rep 795 Posts Drives: Forecast: Sunny Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Wait and get the one for the '08 M when that is available. You won't have to deal with the ugliness of perforation. __________________
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A418t81 Lieutenant Colonel 318 Rep 1,517 Posts Drives: Ever changing fleet Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alabama iTrader: (1) Garage List 2013 335is [0.00]	Well worth it. I have the "sport" one without the perforated leather and I really enjoy the way it looks in the cabin and the slightly improved feel. The stock shifter looks downright ungainly when you've become used to the M or sport one. __________________ 23 iX M60, 24 GT3 RS Weissach, 22 Rivian R1T, 23 RS3, 13 E92 M3 Competition: Akra Evo, KW V3, etc
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Boondoggler Lieutenant 72 Rep 402 Posts Drives: 2023 G01 LCI X3 M40i Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, NJ iTrader: (1) Garage List 2016 340i xDrive [6.50]	By itself it's a nice upgrade, not a huge difference IMO. In conjunction with the M-sport steering wheel, it's a really nice upgrade. The combination of the M-sport steering wheel, shifter and a true short shifter kit (like the Rogue Engineering Octane) is a great upgrade. Not sure if a true SSK is available yet for the e92, sorry if I'm taking the thread in an unintended direction. __________________ 2023 G01 LCI X3 M40i My Garage \| Phytonic Blue \| Black Sensatec \| Carbon Fiber Trim \| Parking \| Premium \| Remote \| Wireless \| Harmon Kardon \| 19" 887M Bi-color Midnight Grey
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M3 Esq Automobilist 395 Rep 2,632 Posts Drives: E70 X5, 911 GT3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CT iTrader: (12)	Any suggestions on who carries the M shift knob for E92? The stock one sucks to be blunt.
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tmon25 Enlisted Member 3 Rep 42 Posts Drives: '10 X5 35d, '06 330xi, '01 M3 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...subcat2=121695 http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...47&startrow=26
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spacedogg Colonel 198 Rep 2,816 Posts Drives: Debadged Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (0)	A shorter knob is more ergonomic and requires less movement when shifting. Theoretically, it does "shorten" your shift...thereby making it slightly faster. By 0.001 of a second maybe...LOL. I'd say it's more of an ergonomic mod than a performance one. But something you will notice right away and appreciate since you use your knob and steering wheel everyday. I created a list of knobs friendly to the E9x called "Playing with Knobs". If you search, it should come up. It should give you an idea of what else is out there.
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BoostedBMW Moderator 133 Rep 6,775 Posts Drives: TiAg E92 335 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (14) Garage List 2003 S2000 [0.00]	I never thought that just a shift knob would be able to help out the feel of the gearbox so much, but the M shift knob really did improve the throw and feel drastically. Stock, it felt very tall and rubbery. I couldn't tell third from fifth, and coming from an s2000 it just felt like crap to be honest. Now, I no longer even feel the need for a short shifter for this car. It was definitely a mod worth doing. __________________ -Michael. Berlina Black S2000 CR is now in the garage l 19" Rial Daytona Race l KW V2 l Eisenhaus Race Exhaust l
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spacedogg Colonel 198 Rep 2,816 Posts Drives: Debadged Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (0)	Yeah...lets make no mistake...the short shift kit (SSK) from BMW will definately be a large improvement compared to just swapping out a short shift knob...just gotta justify the shop time and mod costs. Hehe.
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Jaws Lieutenant Colonel 45 Rep 1,738 Posts Drives: 2006 325i mt Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Edmonton iTrader: (0)	I found the OEM knob to not fall readily to hand. The M knob is the perfect height and it feels better. __________________ 2006 325i - Sparkling Graphite 2000 S2000 - New Formula Red 2007 Chev Silverado crew cab Z71
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Benzwiz Enlisted Member 7 Rep 45 Posts Drives: e92 M3 6MT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Southeast iTrader: (2)	Does anyone have this knob: BMW Performance Shift Kit claims 25% shorter throw? http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...subcat2=121695 Is it the same as the one talked about here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23481 And if anyone has it, any thoughts? comparisons to the M-shift knob or the on above? TIA
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stressdoc Moderator 618 Rep 10,858 Posts Drives: BMW i8; Toy 4runner TRD pro Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waco TX iTrader: (0)	No, they are different items. One is just the knob, the other a short-shift kit. The short shift kit would be very nice to have -- there are some others out there, maybe UUC (?), so shop around and see which fits your needs. They take some time to install. Shift knobs are easy/quick to DIY install. IMO the best knob is the M-sport perforated leather one. teto. __________________ My recent ED photos: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1026808 my not-so-recent ED: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31829 Please join BMWCCA http://bmwcca.org/index.php?pageid=c...&ref_by=300279
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