[Pimp Star]

Hello,

I was wondering if I should get a BMW 135i. I am one person that is looking for a balanced car; a smooth and comfortable ride for daily driving yet a responsive engine and lots of torque for about $35,000. I am thinking about getting a 135i with the M-Sport package, in Black Sapphire Metallic / Black Leathette Interior, and maybe even modifying it (LSD + PROcede chip).

What would be the Pros and Cons, also, would I be better off with an E46 M3 or E90 328i?

Thanks,

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[Ray]

www.1addicts.com

[Pimp Star]

But then everyone will have 1-Series bias. :-(

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[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Ray

www.1addicts.com

^^^What he said!

I think you should get the 135i. It looks nice w/ the ///M package, and will surely have equal mod potential when compared to the 335i.

[Pimp Star]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

^^^What he said!

I think you should get the 135i. It looks nice w/ the ///M package, and will surely have equal mod potential when compared to the 335i.

Cool, thanks.

I will need to test drive it, though. It should corner better because it's a hair lighter and quiet a bit shorter.

P.S. Would you guys considering modifying the Engine / Intake / Exhaust / ECU / Body / Suspension / Tires / Brakes on a 135i to improve performance?

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[stefano7171]

There are lots of discussion going on about the 135ì on BMW Italian forums (even on "1 addicts" sort of forum".
3 comment out of 4 are regarding the uglyness of the 135ì. For sure it seems to be the ugliest BMW released in many, many years.

The car only weights 40 kg less than a 335ì, the same electronic differential lock it has is mounted on 335ìs produced after march 2007 and the back seat space of the 135ì is limited compared to the 335ì one.

If you have budget constraints, my advice is to go for a second-hand 335ì, you will probably spend the same and have a much better looking car, with practically the same performances.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Pimp Star

Cool, thanks.

I will need to test drive it, though. It should corner better because it's a hair lighter and quiet a bit shorter.

P.S. Would you guys considering modifying the Engine / Intake / Exhaust / ECU / Body / Suspension / Tires / Brakes on a 135i to improve performance?

Pimp Star

You are going to hear various opinions, but my advice to you is to check out the current threads w/ the white 135i Tii. Check our Off Topic or Other Cars forum. It looks really good minus the stripes. I like the 135i, but I do find the headlights to be a bit odd. It's not a deal breaker for me though.

And the 135 is 200 lbs. lighter than the 335i. That's pretty substantial.

Here is one of the threads.

[Robmaster]

pro: engine

contra: extrem UGLY car!!!

[MOTO69JOE]

I am getting one, ive started saving my pennies for a huge down payment, I can't wait to get it.

[AH]

Originally Posted by Robmaster

pro: engine

contra: extrem UGLY car!!!

+1

[stefano7171]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

You are going to hear various opinions, but my advice to you is to check out the current threads w/ the white 135i Tii. Check our Off Topic or Other Cars forum. It looks really good minus the stripes. I like the 135i, but I do find the headlights to be a bit odd. It's not a deal breaker for me though.

And the 135 is 200 lbs. lighter than the 335i. That's pretty substantial.

Here is one of the threads.

No, as confirmed by several recent Euro car magazines, the difference in weight between the 135ì and the 335ì is less than 100 lbs (40 kgs), even if that may refer to euro specs cars.

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by stefano7171

No, as confirmed by several recent Euro car magazines, the difference in weight between the 135ì and the 335ì is less than 100 lbs (40 kgs), even if that may refer to euro specs cars.

Don't bother, future 1 series owners are in denial.

The reason why its only 40kg less is because the vehicle needed to be reinforced in order to handle the power/aerodynamics. Therefore it weighs more than a car looking like that should. Trust me, I've seen all the articles trying to see if I'm wrong about the car. So far I've seen that it'll start in the high $30's, the weight is insignificant, and until I saw the Tii it's the ugliest car BMW's come out with in a while. Better than the hatchback version, but thats not saying a lot.

[stefano7171]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Don't bother, future 1 series owners are in denial.

The reason why its only 40kg less is because the vehicle needed to be reinforced in order to handle the power/aerodynamics. Therefore it weighs more than a car looking like that should. Trust me, I've seen all the articles trying to see if I'm wrong about the car. So far I've seen that it'll start in the high $30's, the weight is insignificant, and until I saw the Tii it's the ugliest car BMW's come out with in a while. Better than the hatchback version, but thats not saying a lot.

+1. The tìì is somewhat decent, but the normal 135ì is simply ugly. Only if somebody (i) is on a budget, (ii) does want to own an N54 engine-powered car and (iii) does not like to buy a used car (i.e. a 335ì for the same price), he would be justified to buy the 135ì IMHO.

[ElCapitan]

Anyone knows if the tii will have a LSD?

[shockin330i]

Once modded, this car will be sick...

[gloster]

I prefer the look of the 1 to the 3. I've always liked oddball looking Bimmers like the old m coupe. If I didn't have 3 kids, I'd prefer the 1 series.

[gloster]

I also predict the 1 series will spawn a lot of club racer events and community. I like that. It leads to a lot of good events, mods, and freely available info.

[dawgdog]

I do not think it is ugy, but have no intention of replacing my 335 with a 135. I want a stripped 135 as a second car to keep at my second home on Whidbey island and to drive at track events.

[EDK99]

Yeah sick like i'm going to puke with those gaudy gold wheels. Definitely clashes to much with the chrome around the windows.

Originally Posted by shockin330i

Once modded, this car will be sick...

[stefano7171]

Originally Posted by ElCapitan

Anyone knows if the tii will have a LSD?

No. It will have an EDL (electronic differential lock) i.e. the same system that is mounted on post march 2007 production 335ìs.
It works as follows: when controls are all off, it uses the abs to brake the inner spinning wheel, transferring torque to the non spinning one.

Apparently the effect is very similar to the one of an LSD, maybe a little bit slower than a real mechanical LSD, but also giving raise to much-easier-to-control reactions.

[canucklion]

he is saying the Tii is uglier than the regular 135, a statement which I concur.
But I guess with a lot of BMWs, they have to grow on you. I've grown to tolerate the looks of the 6, 7 and the Z4. I thought they were butt ugly when they first came out, but now I don't mind their look.

Originally Posted by stefano7171

+1. The tìì is somewhat decent, but the normal 135ì is simply ugly. Only if somebody (i) is on a budget, (ii) does want to own an N54 engine-powered car and (iii) does not like to buy a used car (i.e. a 335ì for the same price), he would be justified to buy the 135ì IMHO.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Pimp Star

Hello,

I was wondering if I should get a BMW 135i. I am one person that is looking for a balanced car; a smooth and comfortable ride for daily driving yet a responsive engine and lots of torque for about $35,000. I am thinking about getting a 135i with the M-Sport package, in Black Sapphire Metallic / Black Leathette Interior, and maybe even modifying it (LSD + PROcede chip).

What would be the Pros and Cons, also, would I be better off with an E46 M3 or E90 328i?

Thanks,

Pimp Star

I have an E90, and came from an E46, and had substaintal seat time in the E36. I have never been more excited for a BMW than with the 135i. I've been given 2nd hand accounts of 135i test drives and the verdict is that it's one of the the best DRIVING cars BMW has offered in a long time.

BMW MUST be careful with pricing. Unless BMW bumps the E90/92 base to over $41k, the 135i had better not base above $35k.

Don't worry about LSD, cause it's overrated unless it's going to be a dedicated track car. Same goes for all the other Bull Squeeze (Procede, Exedeetc etc). If you're a half @ssed decent driver, you won't need and LSD or Procede.