M Performance Package II

Phas · 12-19-2013, 07:46 PM

Hello
Just got a call from my SA, and he informs me that BMW Canada is no longer offering the M Performance Package II for the 335 and 435. This Package includes M Performance Exhaust and the M Power Kit.
I wonder if this has to do with a possible new engine to replace the N55?
Any thoughts on why the stopped the PPK?
Cheers

auf Deutsch · 12-19-2013, 08:44 PM

Funny, my SA just informed me that the PPK is again available here in the states for 335/435. It was on hold for a few months. Power increase went from 20hp to 35hp

jtuds · 12-19-2013, 09:56 PM

No, it has to do with BMW Canada being a bunch of shitheads how want to sell automatic 328xi's to soccer moms and logo whores and couldn't care less buyers who actually want a 3 series that can perform.

MikeJ87 · 12-20-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jtuds

No, it has to do with BMW Canada being a bunch of shitheads how want to sell automatic 328xi's to soccer moms and logo whores and couldn't care less buyers who actually want a 3 series that can perform.

I dont know about Toronto but they sell plenty of 335/435 in Calgary.

MikeJ87 · 12-20-2013, 10:30 AM

My CA emailed me last week and told me I was lucky to get M Performance Package II when I did because they aren't offering it for awhile. So must be true.

tristantumble · 12-20-2013, 10:40 AM

what was the reason given for not being able to get the ppk? i got my '14 (aug build) with it no problems, while people in the U.S where just being told they can no longer get them. I wonder if its possible that canadian cars got the older ppk version not the new one with the extra power, now they will take a break while the new ones start getting delivered to the U.S market first then Canada gets the new one in the new year?

MikeJ87 · 12-20-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tristantumble

what was the reason given for not being able to get the ppk? i got my '14 (aug build) with it no problems, while people in the U.S where just being told they can no longer get them. I wonder if its possible that canadian cars got the older ppk version not the new one with the extra power, now they will take a break while the new ones start getting delivered to the U.S market first then Canada gets the new one in the new year?

No the kit you and I have is the new one 335hp and 332lb/ft. I don't know what the reason was but it seems like they wont offer them for a bit. Maybe now that the US has them there is a sudden shortage!

Phas · 12-20-2013, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeJ87

No the kit you and I have is the new one 335hp and 332lb/ft. I don't know what the reason was but it seems like they wont offer them for a bit. Maybe now that the US has them there is a sudden shortage!

I posted to get some feedback, and I appreciate them all...keep them coming.

What I was told (by the SA) that the email states that BMW is discontinuing the MPK II because of a shortage from their supplier.
OK, that sounds like a lame duck excuse IMHO.
Why do I say that?....the MPK II consists of some hardware (exhaust, engine cover, lower air intake replaced and some stickers) and software update. If I assume that the hardware is from another supplier, then they can still offer the software update as it is BMW in house. The software is not supplied by a third party. How do I know this?...because my present 11' 335 has the software update only, no hardware changes.
So the reason BMW Canada are giving in the national email, is somewhat misleading and not being transparent in their excuses.
20/12.. got a call from my SA and there are 123 kits in Canada, and they are ALL blocked (reserved for the cars that came in but did not have it installed in Halifax), and can't be ordered.
The software depends on the VIN #, so if any US posters read this would you be kind enough to check with your dealer to see if he can still supply the software, if yes, let me know and I will make the contact and supply him with the VIN # and have it shipped to me.
I really do appreciate everyone's input.
Thanks

Cheers

ArthurKing1220 · 12-20-2013, 12:57 PM

Seems a bit ridiculous. There are already grumblings amongst enthusiasts, i.e., the same people who would want the MPPK, that the as-installed N55 really should get a power bump in the 435 / 335. You'd at least think that BMW would make it easy for this market segment to get the MPPK upgrade. It's a relatively easy thing to do with some supply chain management and market savvy; and not keeping it available sends a signal that this is a portion of the market BMW isn't overly concerned about. My $.02.

auf Deutsch · 12-20-2013, 01:09 PM

getbmwparts.com

You can order directly from them I think.

Phas · 12-20-2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by auf Deutsche

getbmwparts.com

You can order directly from them I think.

Yes you can...but they don't ship to Canada, only to US addresses.
Thanks

tristantumble · 12-20-2013, 01:23 PM

you can always get it shipped to a receiving place in buffalo and drive it back yourself. They provide the U.S. mailing address and charge by the week for holding it until you get it. Might be a good route to try!

Phas · 12-20-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tristantumble

you can always get it shipped to a receiving place in buffalo and drive it back yourself. They provide the U.S. mailing address and charge by the week for holding it until you get it. Might be a good route to try!

I am looking into that possibility, but closer to Syracuse or Ogdensberg (those two are one hour drive for me).
Your valuable input is appreciated, thanks my friend.
Cheers

shivaswrath · 12-20-2013, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jtuds

No, it has to do with BMW Canada being a bunch of shitheads how want to sell automatic 328xi's to soccer moms and logo whores and couldn't care less buyers who actually want a 3 series that can perform.

yeah it's this ^^^^
h8 soccer moms...

cjack · 12-20-2013, 06:54 PM

We have the kit on our 435 (was installed aprox 1 week after car was delivered a few months ago).

I wonder if the availability of the kit has anything to do with the limp mode issue?

Regards,
CJ

BeeMdblU · 12-20-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jtuds

No, it has to do with BMW Canada being a bunch of shitheads how want to sell automatic 328xi's to soccer moms and logo whores and couldn't care less buyers who actually want a 3 series that can perform.

I would tone it down a bit with this widely insulting uneducated low class comment.

Lost Horizon · 12-20-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cjack

We have the kit on our 435 (was installed aprox 1 week after car was delivered a few months ago).

I wonder if the availability of the kit has anything to do with the limp mode issue?

Regards,
CJ

More likely that they switched their parts inventory System from IBM to SAP.. its been rumored that they have been having trouble getting it right across the enterprise...

cjack · 12-20-2013, 10:53 PM

You might be right, I've heard SAP is lots of fun...

Seagull · 12-21-2013, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost Horizon

More likely that they switched their parts inventory System from IBM to SAP.. its been rumored that they have been having trouble getting it right across the enterprise...

I've heard this from several inside BMW.

bizfiend · 06-09-2015, 07:39 PM

whats better M235i or 435i with M performance package to add 35hp

Versipellis · 06-09-2015, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bizfiend

whats better M235i or 435i with M performance package to add 35hp

Not reviving a 2-year old thread with a somewhat unrelated question.

jayg80 · 06-10-2015, 03:53 PM

If you dont need the additional space of the 4 series, I would think the m235 is the more performance oriented choice. Can't say for sure but I would bet its even a little faster though it is down 15hp vs the 435 with MPPK.

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auf Deutsch Colonel 1913 Rep 2,210 Posts Drives: '17 jackrabbit on crystal meth Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Philly burbs iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 BMW M2 [0.00]	Funny, my SA just informed me that the PPK is again available here in the states for 335/435. It was on hold for a few months. Power increase went from 20hp to 35hp __________________ 2017 BSM M2\|6MT\|Exec\|black kidneys and gills\|full alcantara wheel\|CF spoiler\|Dinan Stage 4\|Dinan COI\|Dinan free flow exhaust with resonator delete\|Fabspeed sport cat DP\|BMS clutch stop\|465 bhp\|4.75/5 stars retired: 2014 435xi\|MPPK\|335 bhp\|3/5 stars
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jtuds Major 71 Rep 1,111 Posts Drives: 335rwd Dinan S2 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: London, ON iTrader: (0)	No, it has to do with BMW Canada being a bunch of shitheads how want to sell automatic 328xi's to soccer moms and logo whores and couldn't care less buyers who actually want a 3 series that can perform.
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MikeJ87 Private First Class 2 Rep 121 Posts Drives: 435i xDrive MPPK 1&2 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Calgary Alberta iTrader: (0)	My CA emailed me last week and told me I was lucky to get M Performance Package II when I did because they aren't offering it for awhile. So must be true.
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tristantumble Private First Class 24 Rep 145 Posts Drives: '17 340xi msport 6MT, MPPk Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	what was the reason given for not being able to get the ppk? i got my '14 (aug build) with it no problems, while people in the U.S where just being told they can no longer get them. I wonder if its possible that canadian cars got the older ppk version not the new one with the extra power, now they will take a break while the new ones start getting delivered to the U.S market first then Canada gets the new one in the new year?
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ArthurKing1220 Private 4 Rep 93 Posts Drives: REDACTED Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: REDACTED iTrader: (0)	Seems a bit ridiculous. There are already grumblings amongst enthusiasts, i.e., the same people who would want the MPPK, that the as-installed N55 really should get a power bump in the 435 / 335. You'd at least think that BMW would make it easy for this market segment to get the MPPK upgrade. It's a relatively easy thing to do with some supply chain management and market savvy; and not keeping it available sends a signal that this is a portion of the market BMW isn't overly concerned about. My $.02.
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auf Deutsch Colonel 1913 Rep 2,210 Posts Drives: '17 jackrabbit on crystal meth Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Philly burbs iTrader: (0) Garage List 2017 BMW M2 [0.00]	getbmwparts.com You can order directly from them I think. __________________ 2017 BSM M2\|6MT\|Exec\|black kidneys and gills\|full alcantara wheel\|CF spoiler\|Dinan Stage 4\|Dinan COI\|Dinan free flow exhaust with resonator delete\|Fabspeed sport cat DP\|BMS clutch stop\|465 bhp\|4.75/5 stars retired: 2014 435xi\|MPPK\|335 bhp\|3/5 stars
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tristantumble Private First Class 24 Rep 145 Posts Drives: '17 340xi msport 6MT, MPPk Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	you can always get it shipped to a receiving place in buffalo and drive it back yourself. They provide the U.S. mailing address and charge by the week for holding it until you get it. Might be a good route to try!
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cjack Second Lieutenant 30 Rep 282 Posts Drives: 435X, EBII, 6MT, PPK + 2019 X5 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Vancouver, BC iTrader: (0)	We have the kit on our 435 (was installed aprox 1 week after car was delivered a few months ago). I wonder if the availability of the kit has anything to do with the limp mode issue? Regards, CJ
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jayg80 Lieutenant 218 Rep 435 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (0)	If you dont need the additional space of the 4 series, I would think the m235 is the more performance oriented choice. Can't say for sure but I would bet its even a little faster though it is down 15hp vs the 435 with MPPK.
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